[QUOTE=Idzo;51757791]Love that inverted swastika in the background.
[sp]chances are it holds the original meaning of it,not the nazi kind[/sp][/QUOTE]
Hey man, Kolovrat is fucking cool
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Kolovrat_(Коловрат)_Swastika_(Свастика)_-_Rodnovery.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Idzo;51757791]Love that inverted swastika in the background.
[sp]chances are it holds the original meaning of it,not the nazi kind[/sp][/QUOTE]
The Nazis used the swastika as a way of linking themselves to a mythologized ancient Indo-Aryan culture and Vsevolod Ivanov is essentially doing the same thing for Russia. I can't find much online about the guy but it wouldn't surprise me if he was some kind of Nazi as well.
Still cool paintings though.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51758415]The Nazis used the swastika as a way of linking themselves to a mythologized ancient Indo-Aryan culture and Vsevolod Ivanov is essentially doing the same thing for Russia. I can't find much online about the guy but it wouldn't surprise me [B]if he was some kind of Nazi[/B] as well.
[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure that's fair. Though there's been a troubling trend of nationalism within groups of people interested in slavic art/mythology, it's not necessarily going to hold true. Folks in Eastern Europe should be able to be engaged in their own mythology as much as in the west and not be suspected of being a nazi.
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;51758536]I'm not sure that's fair. Though there's been a troubling trend of nationalism within groups of people interested in slavic art/mythology, it's not necessarily going to hold true. Folks in Eastern Europe should be able to be engaged in their own mythology as much as in the west and not be suspected of being a nazi.[/QUOTE]
All I said is that I wouldn't be surprised, I'm not jumping to conclusions. Also there's a gulf of difference between "engaged in their own mythology" and recapitulating the kind of descendants-of-an-ancient-noble-Aryan-race mythology that actually is kind of Nazi-ish
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51757633]Just saw this on /tg/[/QUOTE]
That is some sweet art, thanks for sharing!
The way he portrays the dark ages as a very sophisticated era in Russia is very uplifting and kind of similar to how I imagine the Scandinavian migration period & vendel period to be in contrast to the viking age (with the latter being kind of crude and the before-mentioned to be more sophisticated in culture and religion).
To elaborate, the viking age is more known in popular culture thanks to the raids and how warriors have been portrayed but I really think that the era was almost like a remnant of a culture (perhaps the reason why we adopted christianity during this time and not earlier) that culminated some time between 600-700 a.d, maybe even earlier. Most of the tales from the viking age also tend to relate to the time when glorious kings ruled and were laid to rest in the grandest of burial mounds. The archaeological findings from the vendel period also show much more ornamented clothing, jewellery, armoury, weaponry and even tools as well as other crafted things, compared to the findings dated to the viking age.
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Carl_Larsson_-_Midwinter%27s_Sacrifice_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg/1280px-Carl_Larsson_-_Midwinter%27s_Sacrifice_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg[/img]
Carl Larsson's portrayal of the sacrifice of the Swedish king Domalde (said to have lived during the 3rd century) bear a similar style to the art in the video that was posted.
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I think it is very unschooled to immediately start speculating on whether somebody is a nazi or not based on the use of a symbol in a piece of artwork (which in this case was more than valid, with early slavic being the subject).
I understand the symbol has a stigma today but to reduce the entire nazism as an ideology to a symbol is ridiculous, surely there is more to be taken into equation before you can determine whether somebody is a nazi or not.
A game in that style would be absolutely gorgeous. The only thing I can think of that even comes close is The Witcher and even then not even 10%.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51757633]Just saw this on /tg/
[video=youtube;xYBl2I4sBAE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYBl2I4sBAE[/video][/QUOTE]
Ever since I learned about this guy I have been convinced that his works were the inspiration for the graphic style of Heroes of Might and Magic III , also explains how ridiculously popular the game is in Russia.
[QUOTE=Hellsten;51759128]
I think it is very unschooled to immediately start speculating on whether somebody is a nazi or not based on the use of a symbol in a piece of artwork (which in this case was more than valid, with early slavic being the subject).
I understand the symbol has a stigma today but to reduce the entire nazism as an ideology to a symbol is ridiculous, surely there is more to be taken into equation before you can determine whether somebody is a nazi or not.[/QUOTE]
cool but you're addressing an argument i haven't made
Art and creator are separate entities.
Doesn't matter even if he is a nazi.
[IMG]http://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/00e73db6-e745-11e6-a6ef-67e2be066424-1020x643.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE]Iran Air's first Airbus A321-200 after landing at Tehran Imam Khomeini Airport, Jan 11, 2017. This aircraft is the first of 100 ordered by the airline in December 2016, and are slated to replace the current aging fleet purchased prior to the 1979 Iranian Revolution.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=nunu;51755284][vid]http://i.imgur.com/BhT3iW5.mp4[/vid][/QUOTE]
The asshole on that pilot must have been fucking hermetically sealed, god damn.
Are there aircraft carriers that can extend their deck sort of like an extendable table?
Sorry if idiotic question
I don't believe so.
I actually took the time to sit down and listen to this:
[video=youtube;Xs0K4ApWl4g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0K4ApWl4g[/video]
There's a lot debate about the "panic" this stirred up in 1938, a lot of people are saying now that it was overblown by the press, but due to the way they presented it I can see why some people would get scared, defiantly back in those days when most people knew very little, if anything, about Mars.
It also stayed closer to the book than any of the movies have so far although they seem to have excluded the Red Weed. It's also surprising how many different depictions of the Martians and their war machines there are.
This is one of the many depictions of the Martians from the book
[T]http://i1.getsurrey.co.uk/incoming/article9286896.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS63922347.jpg[/T]
And one of the Fighting machine/Tripod:
[T]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/03/18/28437FBF00000578-3066374-Original_drawings_depicting_Martians_from_classic_sci_fi_novel_T-a-52_1430674051505.jpg[/T]
And here's the Martians from the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wayne's_Musical_Version_of_The_War_of_the_Worlds"]musical[/URL]:
[T]http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/waroftheworlds/images/2/29/Martian_Rendered.png/revision/latest?cb=20111015193000[/T]
And Fighting Machine:
[T]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J-2QMV8c1yw/maxresdefault.jpg[/T]
And speaking of the musical, there was one or two video games based on it as well including a strategy game that was one of the first RTS games to use 3D models.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wayne%27s_The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1998_video_game)[/url]
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;51763741]
And speaking of the musical, there was one or two video games based on it as well including a strategy game that was one of the first RTS games to use 3D models.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wayne%27s_The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1998_video_game)[/url][/QUOTE]
Look what I got!
[t]http://i.imgur.com/P4YTscU.jpg[/t]
Sadly it doesn't work on my W7 PC. :sad:
I fucking love Jeff Wayne's musical version of WotW. Saw the original as a kid and the New Generation too when that first ran. Seems a lot of people are sour on how they changed the music but I personally think it sounds great, especially live
[video=youtube;kLtly4rEzWA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLtly4rEzWA[/video]
[img]https://s.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/fbde2f93ade60e9754ae5b5bee8eddf8/204885805/bostonhandle.gif-.gif[/img]
boston dynamics new robot
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;51763741]And Fighting Machine:
[T]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J-2QMV8c1yw/maxresdefault.jpg[/T]
[/QUOTE]i love this fucking book, i love the whole goddamn story, and i also saw the musical, London December 2010. bad seats but a great show nonetheless
most of all i love the aliens and what Wells implies with their physical characteristics. the martians are almost like an early type of Lovecraftian monster... before Lovecraft even started writing! and the horror was surely amplified by the time period - people reading the story (and people in-universe) must have expected something human-like when the book intro started talking about a possible alien civilization, because surely the bipedal platform created by God is the ideal form of advanced intelligent life, yes?
what emerges from the martian drop pod is a disgusting abomination described as a large round sack of glistening leathery flesh larger than a bear. it has no mouth or a visible nose, only a beak-like lipless thing protruding from between two large, staring eyes. its "face" is flanked by two sets of five prehensile tentacles that constantly wave and squirm. the thing can't breathe properly - its whatever-passes-for-lungs and muscles are used to the lower gravity and atmospheric pressure of Mars so it moves with great difficulty and wheezes constantly, its flesh heaving and pulsating with effort. it falls off the edge of the landing shell's opening into the crater the vessel has made, and the first audible thing it actually vocalizes is an inhuman cry of anguish probably not entirely unlike the blood-chilling howling of the Thing in John Carpenter's film. the masses of curious people gathered to observe the opening of the landing pod have enough time to witness this completely indescribable being which, by our understanding, shouldn't even be, before the martians deploy the first instance of their signatory weapon and a sweeping heat beam flash-burns the crowd alive with the force of a precision-targeted atomic blast
and their technology, considering when this whole thing was thought up, is crazy. their machines don't use powered wheels anywhere, all the locomotion is done with synthetic musculature that contracts and expands with electricity running through it. the tripod war machines are gigantic mecha but move with the grace of organic beings and easily reach speeds rivaling that of contemporary locomotives - in later editions of the story Wells, in-universe, laments the fact that the first illustrations of the story depicted them as stiff-legged, clumsy industrial looking things when that couldn't be farther from the truth. the armor they use is impervious to direct hits from late 19th-early 20th century heavy artillery, although the control module where the martian sits is vulnerable to the good old "Boom! Headshot". their primary weapon for battling human military elements is the "heat-ray" energy projector that is basically a laser beam on some very impressive steroids, and against civilian populations they employ a biochemical weapon, a mortar-launched gas that kills within a minute or two and later settles down upon the land as harmless ash. one tripod could exterminate a village in moments, no survivors.
and then Wells reveals that in his mind this might be the eventual fate of an extremely technologically advanced species - the body degenerates into a head, with nothing but the brain, the heart and lungs to keep the brain alive, the barest minimum of sensory organs for observing the environment, and a simple but precise and delicate set of manipulators - the tentacle clusters around the martians' faces are their "hands". all other components of the body become useless, because technology takes over their duties. the martians use their machines as their full bodies and could be argued to be cyborgs in a certain sense. they don't even have a digestive tract - on Mars they feed on a domesticated species of lesser beings by absorbing their nutrients, on Earth they simply exsanguinate live human prisoners and inject the nutrients of the freshly-captured blood straight into their own bloodstream (which proves costly later, because the martians, having grown in all the artificial sterility of their technological environment for a long time, forget to consider the bacteria of foreign biomatter)
i'm really just dying for a film adaptation of this, but in a proper dieselpunk/steampunk setting, none of that "Tom Cruise USA 2005" nonsense. maybe the 1920's. pit interwar period military machines against huge martian killer robots and watch as the apocalyptic carnage unfolds and civilians scream in terror. done right, it could make such a baller war/action/drama spectacle.
Today I learned there is a religion where they worship coconuts, only consume coconuts, and coconut monks are allowed to have 9 wives
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Coconut_Monk_%28%C4%90%E1%BA%A1o_D%E1%BB%ABa%29_Pagoda_2_1969.jpg[/img]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_Religion[/url]
[QUOTE]now-discontinued[/QUOTE]
sounds like it needs a little revival
I clicked the link to learn more, but it turns out shian pretty much said everything there was about it.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51766206]i love this fucking book, i love the whole goddamn story, and i also saw the musical, London December 2010. bad seats but a great show nonetheless
most of all i love the aliens and what Wells implies with their physical characteristics. the martians are almost like an early type of Lovecraftian monster... before Lovecraft even started writing! and the horror was surely amplified by the time period - people reading the story (and people in-universe) must have expected something human-like when the book intro started talking about a possible alien civilization, because surely the bipedal platform created by God is the ideal form of advanced intelligent life, yes?
what emerges from the martian drop pod is a disgusting abomination described as a large round sack of glistening leathery flesh larger than a bear. it has no mouth or a visible nose, only a beak-like lipless thing protruding from between two large, staring eyes. its "face" is flanked by two sets of five prehensile tentacles that constantly wave and squirm. the thing can't breathe properly - its whatever-passes-for-lungs and muscles are used to the lower gravity and atmospheric pressure of Mars so it moves with great difficulty and wheezes constantly, its flesh heaving and pulsating with effort. it falls off the edge of the landing shell's opening into the crater the vessel has made, and the first audible thing it actually vocalizes is an inhuman cry of anguish probably not entirely unlike the blood-chilling howling of the Thing in John Carpenter's film. the masses of curious people gathered to observe the opening of the landing pod have enough time to witness this completely indescribable being which, by our understanding, shouldn't even be, before the martians deploy the first instance of their signatory weapon and a sweeping heat beam flash-burns the crowd alive with the force of a precision-targeted atomic blast
and their technology, considering when this whole thing was thought up, is crazy. their machines don't use powered wheels anywhere, all the locomotion is done with synthetic musculature that contracts and expands with electricity running through it. the tripod war machines are gigantic mecha but move with the grace of organic beings and easily reach speeds rivaling that of contemporary locomotives - in later editions of the story Wells, in-universe, laments the fact that the first illustrations of the story depicted them as stiff-legged, clumsy industrial looking things when that couldn't be farther from the truth. the armor they use is impervious to direct hits from late 19th-early 20th century heavy artillery, although the control module where the martian sits is vulnerable to the good old "Boom! Headshot". their primary weapon for battling human military elements is the "heat-ray" energy projector that is basically a laser beam on some very impressive steroids, and against civilian populations they employ a biochemical weapon, a mortar-launched gas that kills within a minute or two and later settles down upon the land as harmless ash. one tripod could exterminate a village in moments, no survivors.
and then Wells reveals that in his mind this might be the eventual fate of an extremely technologically advanced species - the body degenerates into a head, with nothing but the brain, the heart and lungs to keep the brain alive, the barest minimum of sensory organs for observing the environment, and a simple but precise and delicate set of manipulators - the tentacle clusters around the martians' faces are their "hands". all other components of the body become useless, because technology takes over their duties. the martians use their machines as their full bodies and could be argued to be cyborgs in a certain sense. they don't even have a digestive tract - on Mars they feed on a domesticated species of lesser beings by absorbing their nutrients, on Earth they simply exsanguinate live human prisoners and inject the nutrients of the freshly-captured blood straight into their own bloodstream (which proves costly later, because the martians, having grown in all the artificial sterility of their technological environment for a long time, forget to consider the bacteria of foreign biomatter)
i'm really just dying for a film adaptation of this, but in a proper dieselpunk/steampunk setting, none of that "Tom Cruise USA 2005" nonsense. maybe the 1920's. pit interwar period military machines against huge martian killer robots and watch as the apocalyptic carnage unfolds and civilians scream in terror. done right, it could make such a baller war/action/drama spectacle.[/QUOTE]
I worked on that musical, and have done for quite a few shows including the latest west end show they did. I work for the production company that made the entire visuals that play at the back - you know the scene where they're hiding in the cellar and the handling machine comes by, with the house falling down? That was my scene!
EDIT: Just had a quick look, found some old files, here's a couple stills from the stuff I did back in 2011!
[img]http://i.imgur.com/c5WAtVK.jpg[/img]
I've come a fair way since then aha!
[QUOTE=shian;51767581]Today I learned there is a religion where they worship coconuts, only consume coconuts, and coconut monks are allowed to have 9 wives
[img_thumb]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Coconut_Monk_(Đạo_Dừa)_Pagoda_2_1969.jpg[/img_thumb]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_Religion[/URL][/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_Republic"]Conch Republic[/URL].
[img_thumb]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Conch_Republic_FH020010_crop.jpg/1024px-Conch_Republic_FH020010_crop.jpg[/img_thumb]
Hell some of these [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations"]micronations[/URL] are fucking balls to the walls.
Every year they have a Bloody Battle with the USCG
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuqoUXCjkEE[/media]
(7:55 for the brutal double broadside)
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Why hasn't the government cracked down on these horrible pirates??
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;51770964]Reminds me of the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_Republic"]Conch Republic[/URL].
[img_thumb]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Conch_Republic_FH020010_crop.jpg/1024px-Conch_Republic_FH020010_crop.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
[quote]On September 20, 1995, it was reported that the 478th Civil Affairs Battalion of the United States Army Reserve was to conduct a training exercise simulating an invasion of a foreign island. They were to land on Key West and conduct affairs as if the islanders were foreign. However, no one from the 478th notified Conch officials of the exercise.
Seeing another chance at publicity, Wardlow and [B]the forces behind the 1982 Conch Republic secession mobilized the island for a full-scale war (in the Conch Republic, this involved firing water cannons from fireboats and hitting people with stale Cuban bread)[/B], and protested to the Department of Defense for arranging this exercise without consulting the City of Key West. The leaders of the 478th issued an apology the next day, saying they "in no way meant to challenge or impugn the sovereignty of the Conch Republic", and submitted to a surrender ceremony on September 22.[7][/quote]
i am fucking dying
Sovereignty is important :v:
[QUOTE=nunu;51755284][vid]http://i.imgur.com/BhT3iW5.mp4[/vid][/QUOTE]
They deliver pizza by plane now?
AWACS
[IMG]https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/71/130771-004-355D9D6A.jpg[/IMG]
I always thought they looked pretty cool
I wonder how much that dish affects the flight characteristics.
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