The problem is the USA glorifies getting absolutely wasted, which isn't healthy regardless of age.
We have a saying in Iceland: "Everyone in Iceland is an alcoholic."
Which is for the most part true.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with underage drinking. I consider myself a responsible drinker seeing as I don't get drunk. I like being slightly buzzed. If I would count I would have to say over a period from 9 in the night to 3 in the morning I'd drink around 5-6 beers and that would be a pretty good night for me.
I think everyone has the right to get shit-faced every now and then, but that's against the topic.
How I'd have it, is let the kids drink when they're 16 because that's when a lot of kids start experimenting. Let them learn how to become responsible drinkers and grow up with that maturity. We had a discussion about this before (we as in me and my mates) and came to the conclusion that people who started experimenting with alcoholic beverages learned how to behave whilst under the influence. Now when they come to the pub they behave instead of being all over the place and puking in the toilets.
[QUOTE=Crimptor;34998611]Here's a topic a lot of people seem to have an opinion on.
Is underage drinking bad? Are the people who do it trying to be cool?
I'll give you my two cents - I'm 13 and I drink. Not often, but once or twice a month. Not heavily, either - just enough to get tipsy and make everything funnier. I get excellent grades, am on honor roll, principals list, and recently won a math competition. If underage drinking is so bad, then why am I still a good kid?
Just my opinion, though. I know underage drinking fucks some people up.[/QUOTE]
Because the majority of children your age and slightly above and definetly below, can't tell when's too much, as well as most aren't responsible. Hell most adults who drink can be irresponsible with booze. I've drank, but I'm kind of over that now. Personally I prefer weed, there's no hangovers...
Bottom line of why is that people aren't responsible case and point
[QUOTE=Nonikai;35012817]We have a saying in Iceland: "Everyone in Iceland is an alcoholic."
Which is for the most part true.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with underage drinking. I consider myself a responsible drinker seeing as I don't get drunk. I like being slightly buzzed. If I would count I would have to say over a period from 9 in the night to 3 in the morning I'd drink around 5-6 beers and that would be a pretty good night for me.
I think everyone has the right to get shit-faced every now and then, but that's against the topic.
How I'd have it, is let the kids drink when they're 16 because that's when a lot of kids start experimenting. Let them learn how to become responsible drinkers and grow up with that maturity. We had a discussion about this before (we as in me and my mates) and came to the conclusion that people who started experimenting with alcoholic beverages learned how to behave whilst under the influence. Now when they come to the pub they behave instead of being all over the place and puking in the toilets.[/QUOTE]
I agree with pretty much all of this
[QUOTE=nadroj_semys;35012379]If you know the difference between drinking, and getting absolutley shitfaced, then yeah, nothing wrong with it.
Just know your limits and don't exceed them.[/QUOTE]
That's the main problem. Do young people know how to drink responsibly? Maybe most of them do in some countries, but, almost always, they don't.
Am I the only one who's never drank and doesn't plan to at 14?
I tried drinking first at 14 and I didn't like it at all so I wouldn't say that you're definitely not the only one. 14 is such a young age as well.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;35020985]Am I the only one who's never drank and doesn't plan to at 14?[/QUOTE]
I'm 17 and I've never planned on touching alcohol.
As long as people drink sensibly, I guess I'm fine with it. Its the sort of kids who shout drunkenly as they go down my road (Not very often, fortunately) that I have a problem with.
[QUOTE=Timenova;35021108]I'm 17 and I've never planned on touching alcohol.
As long as people drink sensibly, I guess I'm fine with it. Its the sort of kids who shout drunkenly as they go down my road (Not very often, fortunately) that I have a problem with.[/QUOTE]
That's a good way to deal with it, I guess. A lot of people are either "get drunk 4lyfe~" or "you are a demon spawned from the depths of hell, you aren't even 18 yet, stop drinking!"
im 15, i got drunk at a aftershow party, grinded on the worst possible person ever
now my nickname is coffee because i grind so fine
stay away from alcohol kids
You should be hitting hard liquor before you are 5 or else you're a faggot .
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;35003117]It's a fact of having a legal drinking age that people below it will circumvent it. That's why i'd rather have options open for younger people to drink in a controlled environment such as a pub under the supervision of their parents or something. If you teach them good drinking habits problems associated with binge drinking will probably be reduced[/QUOTE]
I agree with what you just said.
Though when it comes to the US I honestly can see why it's up there. Having it at 16, I do think is a bad idea when it comes to the US, where most kids learn how to drive at 16 (drunk teen drivers, disaster waiting to happen).
So with that in mind keeping the legal purchasing age kept at 21 would be a good thing-in the US- but if the individual has served in the military, it should be waived.
Of course, teens are going to find ways to get a hold of it. And I do think Parents do play a big part in encouraging certain habits.
Me personally, I'm probably one of the most jaded people on the subject. If I was on my own, I'd have none of it present to begin with.
I've seen the ugly side of it too often at parties. Seen too many people get completely fucked over by it (all of them being under 21). There are those who adapted and funnily enough to me, regret it. And then there are the few who didn't. And lose a ton of future prospects because they hit the bottle too hard. After seeing this happen to a few very good friends I assumed this position that I have. It helps that I just don't like the taste of alcohol to begin with.
And to all of you who see no interest in it. You're not alone. Myself, 22 years old, never been drunk.
I decided to go for indifferent since theres no real solid stance to be had on this, most people turn out alright despite it, others completely mess themselves up/ do something really stupid while drunk that gets them arrested so I'd say this mostly depends on the person.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;35024395]I decided to go for indifferent since theres no real solid stance to be had on this, most people turn out alright despite it, others completely mess themselves up/ do something really stupid while drunk that gets them arrested so I'd say this mostly depends on the person.[/QUOTE]
Then I'd say "yes, but with several restrictions"
I did not drink before I was 18, but I have nothing agiangst it. I kind of roll my eyes though when I over hear teenagers who brag about drinking on the weekends.
Well, I had my first alcoholic drink when i was 13; I don't see the problem, i just hate it when people 'binge', like drinking 3 litre bottles of shit tasting cider when you could have a nice cold lager, you know? Nevertheless I think the laws on drinking are just fine.
I started drinking when I was 14, never had any issues managing it - except for the first time I went to a cocktailparty. There's no legal age of drinking here though, only purchasing alchohol, 16 for anything lower than 16% and 18 for anything higher. However not a lot of places takes that law seriously. You just need to find a kiosk and they'll sell just about anything to anyone. Never had any issues buying pure vodka or gin when I was 14.
There's more than that involved, though. If I was the president, I'd rather have the country's teenagers doing something useful rather than drinking, responsibly or not.
Victimless crime. They're ridiculous.
I've had experience with drinking but I'm not really going to go into that.
For the most part, I believe most states in the US have a law (well at least where I live) that allows under 21/above 15 to consume alcohol as long as it's on their own property and with parental consent/presence (forgot which). So, in most cases it would be up to the parents and likely only during special occasions like maybe new years or christmas or something. To me that law is perfect. Parents should really teach kids to drink responsibility rather then not at all and the law i mentioned is almost a good way to do this.
Don't get me wrong, it's fun to get drunk off your ass but really bad to make a habit out of it obviously.
I've been drinking at Hull's fine old man pubs since just after my 16th birthday and i've turned out as a perfectly normal British citizen.
aka constantly gagging for a pint
It really depends on the type of drinking taking place?
The odd beer on a special occasion? Not at all; could even possibly be beneficial.
Binge drinking every weekend? Yes. Very bad.
Drank for the first time not too long ago with a bunch of buds, got absolutely wasted and had a week long hangover. When I was completely plastered, I found it scary I wasn't myself at all, was doing all this stupid shit before my friends calmed me down and made me take a long shower to loosen up and wrapped me up in a shit ton of blankets when I knocked out. As a learning experience, I swore to myself that would I ever drink again, I would have to drink in moderation and amidst a group of reliable peers. Drinking is fine provided it isn't out of bad habits and as long as you're with trustworthy friends.
[QUOTE=EurofanBMW;34998635]Fuck no its not bad! How come as a US Army Infantryman I can easily get shot or blown up during deployment but I can't drink? How much sense does that make?[/QUOTE]
Because it A. is a depressant, makes you depressed, and B. if you are drunk and end up in combat for some reason or need to be deployed because of an emergency.
[QUOTE=The one that is;35059202]Because it A. is a depressant, makes you depressed, and B. if you are drunk and end up in combat for some reason or need to be deployed because of an emergency.[/QUOTE]
I don't believe you know what a "depressant" is, they don't make you depressed in the way you are implying (emotional depression), and instead are used to slow down certain body functions and relax anxiety. And what's your point with point B? Why can a soldier over 21 drink alcohol but one under 21 cant? How does that relate with your point?
[QUOTE=The one that is;35059202]Because it A. is a depressant, makes you depressed, and B. if you are drunk and end up in combat for some reason or need to be deployed because of an emergency.[/QUOTE]
They don't make you depressed, I don't think you know much of what you're talking about, because point B makes no sense
My parents allow me to drink. If I asked, I could most likely do so. I don't want to though since it was never really restricted for me. I don't need to binge drink. Exposing your children to a drink now and then is fine, healthy and good parenting.
[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;35065172]My parents allow me to drink. If I asked, I could most likely do so. I don't want to though since it was never really restricted for me. I don't need to binge drink. Exposing your children to a drink now and then is fine, healthy and good parenting.[/QUOTE]
this, although it might cause them to drink and game
[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;35065172]My parents allow me to drink. If I asked, I could most likely do so. I don't want to though since it was never really restricted for me. I don't need to binge drink. Exposing your children to a drink now and then is fine, healthy and good parenting.[/QUOTE]
I had this kind of relationship with my folks when I was still underage. I would have a beer or two every week and it was fine, obviously. But my parents knew I was a pretty level-headed fella, I was never a problem child so they gave me a lot of liberties. I think it really depends on the child though, some kids can't handle the responsibility.
Edit: probably also depends on how much a kid can handle. It has always taken a shit-ton of booze to get me even buzzed, but if I was a real lightweight then perhaps my folks wouldn't have allowed me to continue.
I find it disturbing that drinking till you puke every weekend is normal now. Listenting to my class mates talk about how they got wasted on the weekend each monday for several years is really annoying. These people are worse than stoners. I am proud to say that I was never drunk once in my life. [sp] mainly because I don't like the taste of alcohol[/sp]
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