Guy with dog films police, they arrest him and shoot his dog for barking.
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[QUOTE=Scot;41271643]You can film cops in the US. Apparently what wasn't the reason they arrested him.[/QUOTE]
I think it depends on the state, actually
[QUOTE=OficerHonkHonk;41271705]The way it moves when it's shot is so fucked up. I wished I hadn't watched that.[/QUOTE]
The pain and confusion the dog must've felt :(
Well, he clearly broke the law by filming officers without their permission, so the arrest was fully deserved.
The dog obviously didn't deserve it, but the officers made the right call. The dog looked like it was going for one of the officers. I've seen what dogs that size and breed can do, thankfully not on people or animals. They might even be able to just take off your hand.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;41271717]I think it depends on the state, actually[/QUOTE]
I read somewhere the supreme court ruled that it's fine.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;41271717]I think it depends on the state, actually[/QUOTE]
It should never be illegal to film police, ever. I mean, as long as they're doing the right thing, it shouldn't be a problem whether or not actions are recorded. If there are states where it is illegal, then it says a lot about the police in that state.
[QUOTE=joost1120;41271738]Well, he clearly broke the law by filming officers without their permission, so the arrest was fully deserved.
The dog obviously didn't deserve it, but the officers made the right call. The dog looked like it was going for one of the officers. I've seen what dogs that size and breed can do, thankfully not on people or animals. They might even be able to just take off your hand.[/QUOTE]
You can film cops in california without permission...
Sure they can come and ask about it but a forceful arrest wasn't needed
[QUOTE=joost1120;41271738]Well, he clearly broke the law by filming officers without their permission, so the arrest was fully deserved.
The dog obviously didn't deserve it, but the officers made the right call. The dog looked like it was going for one of the officers. I've seen what dogs that size and breed can do, thankfully not on people or animals. They might even be able to just take off your hand.[/QUOTE]
Um, what? There is no law against filming officers without their permission. You have every right to film officers.
But AFAIK you still can't film people without their permission, unless California has weird laws.
[QUOTE=joost1120;41271738]Well, he clearly broke the law by filming officers without their permission[/QUOTE]
This is illegal since when?
[sp]Protip: It's not. It's 100% legal in all 50 states unless you're obstructing justice (getting right in their face, blocking arrests, etc.)[/sp]
[QUOTE=joost1120;41271833]But AFAIK you still can't film people without their permission, unless California has weird laws.[/QUOTE]
Even if there was a law like this, I don't think it would warrant an arrest and handcuffs. A small fine would do, even if was a bullshit law to begin with.
[QUOTE=joost1120;41271833]But AFAIK you still can't film people without their permission, unless California has weird laws.[/QUOTE]
It's legal to film an officer of the law without their permission UNLESS you are obstructing or interfering with their job, then it becomes an issue and the officer has the right to stop you.
[QUOTE=Doom14;41271849]This is illegal since when?
[sp]Protip: It's not. It's 100% legal in all 50 states unless you're obstructing justice (getting right in their face, blocking arrests, etc.)[/sp][/QUOTE]
It legal but this person was just going around being an idiot around police officers. He drove up to this place and started playing extremely loud music while the police were trying to deal with a pretty dangerous person and then got out and started taking a video while calling the cops racist because there weren't any black cops. The police were about to detain him when his dog jumped out of the car and ran up to the police officer. The police officer felt threatened and shot the dog. It's not like they just arrested him for being black.
Purposefully playing the loudest music you can find and getting out to take a video while shouting at them is pretty actively obstructing justice. The officers probably should have made sure the dog was secure in the car however. This is a full blown witchhunt on Reddit.
[QUOTE=Griffster26;41271390]They might have found who the guy was, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post it.[/QUOTE]
Posting someone's personal information because they "might" be the ones responsible is generally a bad idea.
Thread title should be changed, it didn't just bark
Also it looks like no one has posted the video of what happened before the dog got shot.
[video=youtube;ffwxaTpJTyI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI[/video]
I'm not surprised that the police officers detained this person. When the SWAT has surrounded a house usually that's a sign of someone who is pretty dangerous is nearby so I wouldn't be surprised if the police were originally just trying to prevent this idiot from getting shot but clearly it didn't play out this way
This idiot is not the completely innocent person he is being made out to be. The police were 100% in the right in their decision to detain him but the way they handled the dog was off.
The dog wasn't being aggressive at all, it was defending itself and just wanted to be close to it's distressed owner. If you watch the video before they decide to shoot the dog you can see they're trying to fucking grab the leash of a dog they have no previous relationship with, so of course the dog is going to defend itself. Even if you have no experience with dogs you'd think common sense would dictate that you don't try to fucking get close to a dog who's owner is clearly under distress.
[QUOTE=joost1120;41271833]But AFAIK you still can't film people without their permission, unless California has weird laws.[/QUOTE]
You can actually film police officers on duty if you feel like using the imagery as evidence. Since they are suppose to uphold the law they're not suppose to have anything to fear from getting filmed.
[QUOTE=JimmeyJohns;41271704]He probably didn't want to fire his gun more than he had to, he also probably would've gotten a lot of hate anyway for executing a defenseless animal in public. In the heat of the moment decisions are made quickly and with little thought.
The gun should have been used for last resort only, which it was not. If the cops would've stopped rough handling the owner it would've calmed down.[/QUOTE]
Defenseless is a bit of an understatement, Rottweilers are pretty damn capable.
I love all the internet experts who stick to the crude letter of the law and debate every fine detail when it's really just a matter of having a fucking soul and doing everything possible not to shoot someone's dog in front of the owner.
[editline]1st July 2013[/editline]
Like maybe give the guy a second to make sure his dog is safe/secure like anyone rational would do. I also just want to point out that the dumb fuck almost shot himself in the foot as a result of the position he put himself in.
This is fucking disgusting...i regret watching it but I hope to god these cops get punished for it. I mean seriously do they not know how dogs work? He saw his friend being man handled, he just wanted to protect him. A dog sees his family as his pack, and they look out for one another. Why the fuck shoot and kill a dog because a guy is recording? It's his right to record for fucks sake!
Poor dog...I feel really really badly for him...that fear in his eyes and...I just hate this fucking shit.
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;41272383]This is fucking disgusting...i regret watching it but I hope to god these cops get punished for it. I mean seriously do they not know how dogs work? He saw his friend being man handled, he just wanted to protect him. A dog sees his family as his pack, and they look out for one another. Why the fuck shoot and kill a dog because a guy is recording? It's his right to record for fucks sake!
Poor dog...I feel really really badly for him...that fear in his eyes and...I just hate this fucking shit.[/QUOTE]
It obviously wasn't the recording that was bothering them since there were people recording before this even happened.
I wish the 3 idiots would get sued and end up in prison themselves for killing the dog. I lost my pet cat friday and it hurts to lose a pet when its been in your family since you were born or younger. If this happened to me I would sue them and have a right to free speech.
[QUOTE=joost1120;41271833]But AFAIK you still can't film people without their permission, unless California has weird laws.[/QUOTE]
You can film w.e you want in public
[editline]2nd July 2013[/editline]
There were shitloads of officers and one dog. Even if the dog attack they could have easily subdued it without using lethal force
So basically they killed his dog which wouldn't happened if they didn't arrest him under false pretenses.
Anything i'm missing here?
[QUOTE=Blackfire76;41273180]So basically they killed his dog which wouldn't happened if they didn't arrest him under false pretenses.
Anything i'm missing here?[/QUOTE]
they didn't arrest him, he was being detained for questioning.
Why did they even arrest that guy?
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;41273681]Why did they even arrest that guy?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;41273671]they didn't arrest him, he was being detained for questioning.[/QUOTE]
he was being detained because they were in the middle of an operation and the guy is clearly trying to provoke a response. playing loud music, filming, yelling out "why aren't there any black cops?" and whatever else.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI[/media]
[QUOTE=RichyZ;41273769]the dog fucking lunged
boo hoo it was being touched by someone it didnt know, at that point, it posed a threat and had to be shot[/QUOTE]
good thing you weren't there, you would've cut it with all those edges
[QUOTE=RichyZ;41273769]the dog fucking lunged
boo hoo it was being touched by someone it didnt know, at that point, it posed a threat and had to be shot[/QUOTE]
You are made of stone, as are all the other people in this thread trying to justify shooting a dog.
I think that both parties are in the wrong. The cops didn't need to shoot the dog, but at the same time that guy didn't need to start provoking the police. He put his own dog at risk by bringing it into the situation in the first place. The worst part of this is just seeing how avoidable the whole scene was.
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