Guy with dog films police, they arrest him and shoot his dog for barking.
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I don't want to watch.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;41273769]the dog fucking lunged
boo hoo it was being touched by someone it didnt know, at that point, it posed a threat and had to be shot[/QUOTE]
clearly you would consider a bunny rabbit as a threat that must be shot in the face if it came charging from the owner's house, lunging at your jumpy bitch-ass police officers.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;41278546]do we need to post that video that gets posted in every thread where the police shoot a dog
the one where 5 british police officers are hospitalized because they didn't shoot the dog
aka the video that shows that dogs aren't all some happy fluffy animal that the police should just let lick them, and can actually seriously wound people?
[media][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Jnaw1s_5c[/URL][/media]
this is why the police shoot dogs[/QUOTE]
okay and what were the 'serious injuries' if I may ask?
and being 'hospitalized' doesn't necessarily mean anything if it's a standard procedure after pretty much [b]any[/b] work-related injury.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;41278999]clearly you would consider a bunny rabbit as a threat that must be shot in the face if it came charging from the owner's house, lunging at your jumpy bitch-ass police officers.
okay and what were the 'serious injuries' if I may ask?
and being 'hospitalized' doesn't necessarily mean anything if it's a standard issue after pretty much [b]any[/b] work-related injury[/QUOTE]
A dog has sharp teeth and are known to use them, rabbits are not considered threats because afaik, when was the last time you heard a bunny maul someone to death?
^ ehh... if a decent-sized adult male really wanted, he could rip the dog's lungs out.
and yes dogs have sharp teeth, and they better know how to use them. it's their 'weapon' of choice after all. we have quite the biting power ourselves, as humans, too.
If you aren't even going to allow the owner to attempt to retsrain his dog, when the reason for the dog's distress is because his owner is being handled and pulled away from his dog while in what looks like a heated discussion, then what the fuck gives them the right to act aggressively towards the animal?
They are the ones causing it distress, and it was painfully obvious that the dog did not want to be aggressive. If it was going to attack, it would not have stood around and sniffed at the ground once besides the group.
This is fucking horrendous, then he just leaves it to die slowly writhing on the ground?
I'm not even going to go in to detail about how they arrested him for [I]filming in public.[/I] Do these people get any training what so ever? The fact that there's more than 3 of them all in such a shitty state of protocol and completely incapable of handling the simplest of situations is a disgrace.
You know that guy you have restrained, who did nothing wrong and peacefully allowed himself to be restrained? Well, his dog, who was until now docile, is panicking over this turn of events. Instead of allowing somebody to restrain the dog, just shoot the fucking thing and then refuse to put it out of its misery after you have caused fatal damage.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;41278546]do we need to post that video that gets posted in every thread where the police shoot a dog[/QUOTE]
And does the general reply of "the dog people are talking about was not being aggressive, and had a legitimate, understandable reason for approaching the officers" need to be posted? I'll also point out that the police in that video handled the situation absolutely terribly. They were within their right to struggle or physically harm the animal without hitting it.
Two completely different situations with two animals acting differently, and with different reasons for doing some thing and then refuse to put it out of its misery after you have caused fatal damage.
Do you know why police officers do not immediately shoot people who come close to them? It is because, although those people are able to cause serious harm to them, shooting them is not the only viable option to resolve the situation. It should always be the last thing officers resort to. Humans are just as unpredictable as dogs, and had that dog been a teenager worried about his father, instead of a dog worried about his owner, they probably would have allowed the kid to go up and see what the hell was happening. Instead, they draw weapons and yell and cause panic and do not allow their unwarranted captive to do a single thing but watch.
[url]http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1466773308001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAGBdRAo~,t2cIYZUexJ2HLdBYSBIAhhF2g1dnagVO&bctid=2520804003001[/url]
The guy explains what happened.
Door dog..
The crowd should have got a good "fuck the police" chant going.
[QUOTE=Satane;41279347]are you serious ? a dead dog is better than any human injury.[/QUOTE]
Oh the privilege of simply being human.
No but I am serious, what you just said makes no sense to me. Not that I wished for any human to get injured, but it's really not the end of the world. Unlike for the dog in this case.
[QUOTE=Aman;41271331]that's terrible. Fucking Californian cops are scum a lot of the time. Like seriously if there are any cops who truly deserve to be called power tripping pigs 90% of them come from California.[/QUOTE]
The Rampart case confirms this even more
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;41274775]hey buddy, just so you know trying to use a taser or pepper spray a dog will more than likely make it more aggressive rather than incapacitate it.[/QUOTE]
yeah man mace only works on humans!
[img]http://news.byu.edu/releases/archive08/Mar/bearspray/bear_smith83.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;41274775]hey buddy, just so you know trying to use a taser or pepper spray a dog will more than likely make it more aggressive rather than incapacitate it.[/QUOTE]
Well maybe cops shouldn't be given a load of weapons and expect them to be appropriate in any situation. If cops are trained to take down 200 pound grown men why can't they be trained to kick over a dog and pin it down instead of shooting it in the face. Dogs are living things and this shouldn't be considered acceptable, if they applied this logic to humans then they would just shoot everyone instead of detaining them, which of course is inhumane and ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;41278546]do we need to post that video that gets posted in every thread where the police shoot a dog
the one where 5 british police officers are hospitalized because they didn't shoot the dog
aka the video that shows that dogs aren't all some happy fluffy animal that the police should just let lick them, and can actually seriously wound people?
[media][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Jnaw1s_5c[/URL][/media]
this is why the police shoot dogs[/QUOTE]
Still... A tazer or mace is such a better alternative.
The shooting of the dog is questionable, could've been handle easily.
But they was fucking illegally detaining him in the first place, fuck those bitches.
[editline]2nd July 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=galenmarek;41272063]Also it looks like no one has posted the video of what happened before the dog got shot.
[video=youtube;ffwxaTpJTyI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI[/video]
I'm not surprised that the police officers detained this person. When the SWAT has surrounded a house usually that's a sign of someone who is pretty dangerous is nearby so I wouldn't be surprised if the police were originally just trying to prevent this idiot from getting shot but clearly it didn't play out this way
This idiot is not the completely innocent person he is being made out to be. The police were 100% in the right in their decision to detain him but the way they handled the dog was off.[/QUOTE]
Yea they was trying to make sure he didn't shot by handcuffing him illegally and putting him closer to the crime scene.
[editline]2nd July 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=RichyZ;41273769]the dog fucking lunged
boo hoo it was being touched by someone it didnt know, at that point, it posed a threat and had to be shot[/QUOTE]
LOL you clearly never had a dog before.
See, the problem I'm having with this is that people like this are just WAITING for any ever so slim justification to abuse their power in any way possible. If you want, you can feel threatened by anything, each and everything you encounter is potentially dangerous.
But a police officer's job is to GET into dangerous situations. If your attitude is to immediately use lethal force to neutralize danger, then why not just shoot each and any potential source of disturbance? It's the same thing. If you can't handle stress or difuse dangerous situations, guess what? YOU ARE NOT CUT OUT TO BE A COP. Go do traffic tickets or something. This sort of mindset needs to be eliminated, this is not justification, this is legitimately psychotic. I think these people are no more sane than a serial killer, looking for ways to kill within the boundaries of the law, weather they contiously decide or act out of murderous instinct, it takes a dangerous kind of sociopath to feel the need to kill so urgently. I'm afraid of dogs, they used to tackle me as a kid and since my job involves entering various foreign properties, I have been surprised by dogs more than once, not even on private property but in public areas. Still I don't think I need to carry a gun so I can gun down something that threatens me,
I'd be afraid of encountering a cop like that more than running into a criminal, because criminals can't harm you in broad daylight in a crowded place, holding off anyone coming to help with a badge and call for backup if someone tries to stop them. Abuse of power is disgusting
I don't know about the rest of you, but shooting the dog was crossing the fucking line. He should have tazed it if he was so scared. I'm really surprised no one rushed the cops after they did that. Jesus Christ I hate this planet.
Wow, that's terrible. He couldn't fucking give the man a minute to make sure his dog gets home? Losing a dog is like one of the shittiest feelings i've ever had to endure.
And he can't even shoot for shit, shoot 4 times, and still leave it suffering. Fucks sakes.
that was so fucked up.
I wish I didn't watch that.
I was watching that interview, and I noticed this;
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/what88.jpg[/img]
Is that what I think it is?
[QUOTE=SatansSin;41283759]I was watching that interview, and I noticed this;
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/what88.jpg[/img]
Is that what I think it is?[/QUOTE]
Blood? Blood doesn't come off the streets easily, there was a car incident that involved 3 fatalities and for about a week or two I still would see a huge red splot on the road. That was 2-3 months ago and I see a white stain on the street.
It's all a grey area till the police report comes out, then match it to video/victim's response.
Why did they arrest him, though? I thought it was legal to film police officers.
Edit: Just watched the whole way through. He didn't need to shoot the dog, they could have easily detained the dog. Fucking Californian police are the most terrible, trigger-happy kind.
[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;41284683]Why did they arrest him, though? I thought it was legal to film police officers.
Edit: Just watched the whole way through. He didn't need to shoot the dog, they could have easily detained the dog. Fucking Californian police are the most terrible, trigger-happy kind.[/QUOTE]
Mind informing me of how to safely detain a dog that has shown aggressive behavior?
[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;41284683]Why did they arrest him, though? I thought it was legal to film police officers.[/QUOTE]
He drove up to a SWAT operation while playing music loudly with his window open. He got out of his car and started to shout "Why ain't there any black cops?". He proceeded to yell at the cops when they asked him to turn his radio down.
He wasn't being arrested really, just detained so he wouldn't impede on the situation at hand
[quote]
Edit: Just watched the whole way through. He didn't need to shoot the dog, they could have easily detained the dog. [/quote]
Man I'd love to see someone handcuff a dog.
Jesus christ my heart actually sank when it was shot I feel like shit now
However this turns out, I'm certain that cop will be remembered as the dude that murdered the guy's dog in the public majority.
[QUOTE=RaxaHax;41285394]He drove up to a SWAT operation while playing music loudly with his window open. He got out of his car and started to shout "Why ain't there any black cops?". He proceeded to yell at the cops when they asked him to turn his radio down.
[/QUOTE]
Oh.
[QUOTE=mon_ons;41285250]Mind informing me of how to safely detain a dog that has shown aggressive behavior?[/QUOTE]
There's like 4 police there and one dog. Shooting it wasn't the right thing to do.
[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;41289050]Oh.[/QUOTE]
So you acknowledge my explanation, seemingly without problem.
But you still rate me dumb.
Okay.
The bottom line, I think, with how they handled the dog is that if the police have to kill your pet, they're just gonna do it. It's unfortunate, but you gotta admit, that guy was being an idiot. Obviously there is something pretty crazy going on there and he just had to be head-strong and start up a situation by walking by and filming. Also, he may have been considered an assailant of what was going on, and that might be why they arrested him as well. We just don't have enough information to understand all the details of what's going on there.
[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;41289050]
There's like 4 police there and one dog. Shooting it wasn't the right thing to do.[/QUOTE]
Hey there's 4 guys they can restrain one guy with a knife right
FUCK THIS SHIT I'M OUT
Oh my god...what the fuck! They really had to do that? They REALLY had to do that shit?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Anderson;41291631]FUCK THIS SHIT I'M OUT
Oh my god...what the fuck! They really had to do that? They REALLY had to do that shit?[/QUOTE]
Well yes, they did. They did not go out of their way to kill the man's dog. They were reacting to a disturbance during a high stakes raid (warrant, etc.), and the dog happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, largely due to the actions of the owner.
[editline]3rd July 2013[/editline]
It's sad, but the cop had a right to defend himself when the dog charged at him.
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