• Guy with dog films police, they arrest him and shoot his dog for barking.
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[QUOTE=RentAhobO;41314453]Do the semantics really matter that much to you. Sad.[/QUOTE] Well when you say one thing and the video shows another...
[QUOTE=RentAhobO;41307592]America; Where police officers carry rifles and will shoot your dog in front of you.[/QUOTE] They were carrying rifles/submachine guns because it was a SWAT raid on what was (so I heard) a hostage situation.
What would you guys have done? Gave the dog a bone and patted it on the back? A dog jumped at him. If you really want to see what a dog can do, on google images look up "Dog attack wounds". They don't just nibble at you. They can seriously fuck you up. Especially if that dog is pissed off at you.
[QUOTE=Blockhead;41314604]What would you guys have done? Gave the dog a bone and patted it on the back? A dog jumped at him. If you really want to see what a dog can do, on google images look up "Dog attack wounds". They don't just nibble at you. They can seriously fuck you up. Especially if that dog is pissed off at you.[/QUOTE] I would have told the dog that I am an officer of the law, and attacking me would be a felony.
[QUOTE=RentAhobO;41314453]Do the semantics really matter that much to you. Sad.[/QUOTE] I bet you think all those squad cars and the swat van were there for a routine traffic stop, and then they decided to shoot a dog for fun...
[QUOTE=RentAhobO;41307592]America; Where police officers carry[B] rifles [/B]and will shoot your dog in front of you.[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.cnn.net/cnn/SPECIALS/2000/columbine.cd/Photos/PUMP.SHOTGUN.JPG[/t] no idiot that was clearly an AK47
[QUOTE=RentAhobO;41314453]Do the semantics really matter that much to you. Sad.[/QUOTE] "Oh my god Gerald you're poisoned let's take you to the hospital" [I]"Actually it's just the flu, I'm fi-"[/I] "Do the semantics really matter that much to you"
Guys somebody attempted to make another thread about this, what a goof join me in ridiculing him when he sees this thread.
Would it really of been that bad to uncuff the dogs owner and ask him to put it back in the car with the windows rolled up n
[QUOTE=mon_ons;41321667]I bet you think all those squad cars and the swat van were there for a routine traffic stop, and then they decided to shoot a dog for fun...[/QUOTE] Nah, I'm just saying that your police force is militarized and full of people that will shoot your dog for no good reason.
[QUOTE=RentAhobO;41322046]Nah, I'm just saying that your police force is militarized and full of people that will shoot your dog for no good reason.[/QUOTE] Okay yeah, let's get rid of SWAT and just go in and send the assault rifle wielding drugged up guy holding up a bank a strongly worded letter instead
[QUOTE=Mr. Jelly;41322104]Okay yeah, let's get rid of SWAT and just go in and send the assault rifle wielding drugged up guy holding up a bank a strongly worded letter instead[/QUOTE] hmm yeah well enjoy your country then
[QUOTE=RentAhobO;41322046]Nah, I'm just saying that your police force is militarized and full of people that will shoot your dog for no good reason.[/QUOTE] Well you're wrong.
This is one of those videos where my only response that I feel is reasonable is to spam the fuck out of my keyboard like seriously. Makes me feel sick, it was just a fucking dog. The fact that I can't do anything about it pisses me off, and the fact that I watched the video pisses me off more.
[QUOTE=RentAhobO;41322342]hmm yeah well enjoy your country then[/QUOTE] What's the fuckin point of police if they can't realistically put up any sort of fight Leave the community-oriented policing to the beat officers, militarized SWAT is a necessity to maintain order. Citizens need to have the same weapons as the cops so they can stand up to corruption, and cops need to have the same weapons as the citizens so that they can stand up to criminals It's not a difficult concept to grasp, not everyone can stick up for themselves
[QUOTE=Apache249;41323402]Well you're wrong.[/QUOTE] Did you...y'know...watch the video? I mean, that's basically what is shown in the video. [QUOTE=Bazsil;41326548]What's the fuckin point of police if they can't realistically put up any sort of fight Leave the community-oriented policing to the beat officers, militarized SWAT is a necessity to maintain order. Citizens need to have the same weapons as the cops so they can stand up to corruption, and cops need to have the same weapons as the citizens so that they can stand up to criminals It's not a difficult concept to grasp, not everyone can stick up for themselves[/QUOTE] So the people need guns to protect themselves from the police, and the police need guns to protect themselves from all those people with guns. Oh, and dogs. I think America, as a country, is a few steps away from turning into a more violent version of Russia.
[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;41327077]Did you...y'know...watch the video? I mean, that's basically what is shown in the video.[/quote] I did infact watch both videos. I saw a couple of cops with MP5s providing security during a SWAT operation. This is [I]not[/I] "militarization" of the police nor is it solely an American phenomenon. Every competent police force has to have SWAT capability to handle high-risk situations such as armed gunmen, barricaded suspects, hostage crises, and warrant service. The only police forces which don't have SWAT (or as you would say "militarized") capability are the ones which cannot afford it or do not intend to effectively enforce laws. Here is a variety of SWAT-style police forces from various nations. ROK [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img19/1104/koreaump20lv.jpg[/IMG] Australia [IMG]http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6751/vicpolsogteam7qo.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1159/vicpolresponseteam2pr.jpg[/IMG] Mexico [IMG]http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=128502&d=1278446828[/IMG] [B]United Kingdom[/B] [IMG]http://discoverelitepolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/co19-3-1.jpg[/IMG] Point proven? [quote]I think America, as a country, is a few steps away from turning into a more violent version of Russia.[/QUOTE] :rolleyes: It's almost as if you're being intentionally ignorant. Come back when you find me a video of an American police force handling a situation in this fashion and then tell me about a "more violent version of Russia." [video=youtube;o046ZMHF4Z8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o046ZMHF4Z8[/video]
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[QUOTE=thrawn2787;41271402]To be fair if a dog lunges at you like that you probably want to defend yourself But yeah cops could've handled that way fucking better[/QUOTE] If he wasn't fucking with the guy, his dog wouldn't have tried defending his owner. [editline]5th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Scot;41271499]I'm sure every cop has seen that video of a female cop/animal handler (can't remember which one) getting her hand mangled by a rottweiler while responding to a call. I sure as fuck would rather shoot a dog than have that happen to me.[/QUOTE] Who cares if you lose your hands, if you're starting shit with someone, be ready to have some shit done to you.
[QUOTE=MCCCXXXIII;41330883]If he wasn't fucking with the guy, his dog wouldn't have tried defending his owner. [editline]5th July 2013[/editline] Who cares if you lose your hands, if you're starting shit with someone, be ready to have some shit done to you.[/QUOTE] I see you've totally missed the part where he was fucking with the cops during a [I]hostage crisis[/I] of all times. I don't mean to sound harsh, but there were innocent people's lives at stake, and all you care about was the damn dog put in harms way by a careless owner. [editline]5th July 2013[/editline] In other words, the owner started shit, and the dog payed for it.
[QUOTE=Apache249;41330965]I see you've totally missed the part where he was fucking with the cops during a [I]hostage crisis[/I] of all times. I don't mean to sound harsh, but there were innocent people's lives at stake, and all you care about was the damn dog put in harms way by a careless owner. [editline]5th July 2013[/editline] In other words, the owner started shit, and the dog payed for it.[/QUOTE] I apologize, I didn't know the whole story and thought that he was only observing the police.
So I watched the video and am completely unsure what the whole issue is. Guy was obstructing police, got arrested (we don't actually know fully well what he was saying) His dog jumps out of the car and starts acting aggressive at the police officers. It then gets shot once it's jumping at one of them. The police officer cannot know if it is attacking him or just barking at this moment. On top of that he has no clue if the dog is sick or not On top of that generally speaking dealing hand to hand with an aggressive dog is not recommended. Similarly to a highly violent person attacking you. Was the shooting somewhat of a panic reaction - yes. Was it in order though. Yes. Essentially while we might discuss stuff on the cuffing of the owner's, if that was in order or not. Anything from that point onward seemed to be in order in my book.
i think a tazer would have been the better option.
In the heat of the moment, the officer probably felt like it was appropriate, but looking at the footage the dog seemed pretty intimidated by them and didn't really look like he was intending on actually biting, he was only trying to "protect" his owner. I'd be a terrible cop if situations like this were frequent, because I couldn't bring myself to shoot a dog. [editline] . [/editline] There should totally be a dog handling unit kind of thing on standby when dealing with situations in neighbourhoods like that, like guys trained in restricting dogs that wear protective gear on their arms and legs and shit, and little for legged doggy cuffs and those things they put around their mouths which I can't remember the name of. I should post this on [URL="http://highdeas.com/"]highDEAS.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Shark Cat;41335014]In the heat of the moment, the officer probably felt like it was appropriate, but looking at the footage the dog seemed pretty intimidated by them and didn't really look like he was intending on actually biting, he was only trying to "protect" his owner. I'd be a terrible cop if situations like this were frequent, because I couldn't bring myself to shoot a dog. [editline] . [/editline] There should totally be a dog handling unit kind of thing on standby when dealing with situations in neighbourhoods like that, like guys trained in restricting dogs that wear protective gear on their arms and legs and shit, and little for legged doggy cuffs and those things they put around their mouths which I can't remember the name of. I should post this on [URL="http://highdeas.com/"]highDEAS.com[/URL][/QUOTE] The cops are not animal control. They shouldn't have to deal with irresponsible dog owners during a hostage situation. [editline]6th July 2013[/editline] and I struggle to believe that you would let a dog maul you as opposed to shooting it.
I have a rottweiler that looks exactly like that dog in the video. But in all fairness the cop had every right to shoot the dog. The guy should have rolled up his windows or had somebody else hold the dog. What was he going to leave the dog in the car while he was in jail? Anyway, I still feel bad for the dog
[QUOTE=Apache249;41336738]The cops are not animal control. They shouldn't have to deal with irresponsible dog owners during a hostage situation.[/QUOTE] I wasn't being serious about the whole "dog handling unit" thing, which I tried to make evident by saying "little doggy cuffs" etc. but apparently they do get animal control calls, here's a disgusting example. [video=youtube;yF20qqIN7zs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF20qqIN7zs[/video] [QUOTE=Apache249;41336738][editline]6th July 2013[/editline] and I struggle to believe that you would let a dog maul you as opposed to shooting it.[/QUOTE] I probably would let a dog bite my arm or whatever and cause injury before going and taking it's life, that's just me though.
[QUOTE=Shark Cat;41336859]I probably would let a dog bite my arm or whatever and cause injury before going and taking it's life, that's just me though.[/QUOTE] No you wouldn't.
[QUOTE=mon_ons;41337380]No you wouldn't.[/QUOTE] I'm not going to argue with you about how I myself would deal with a situation.
[QUOTE=Shark Cat;41337480]I'm not going to argue with you about how I myself would deal with a situation.[/QUOTE] Do you also think you'll be the sole savior with the clear head in the event of a bombing/fire/etc? You don't know how you'll react either until your life is threatened. Try that and come back.
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