[QUOTE=Rebdomine;42150075]This is fucking retarded and it wouldn't work. Just an "idea guy" video. Tons of people have ideas, but why does it matter unless they know how to make it happen? I have no idea why this has so many winner ratings.[/QUOTE]
because its an idea that people think is cool
What about having different "bases" for different parts then joining 'em in one?
Also what happens if you drop it?
All those years of playing tetris and Resident Evil 4 will be put to the test
[QUOTE=bunguer;42150087]Bad example I know, it was the first thing in my mind but you're right, you could even attach SSD into PCIe, a more correct example would be attach the graphics card into an cd drive slot.[/QUOTE]
you can even attach CD drives into pci ports. it would just be a matter of having a standardized port like that, the thing is everything would have to be the same size roughly
storage can be replaced with microsd, processor and memory upgrades would have to be done differently from swapping the rest of the bits, but the rest of it is perfectly feasible.
[QUOTE=bunguer;42150087]Bad example I know, it was the first thing in my mind but you're right, you could even attach SSD into PCIe, a more correct example would be attach the graphics card into an cd drive slot.[/QUOTE]
They actually have a dock for the computer I'm using, currently, where you can shove a GPU into it to play games. Right now, this thing has intel GMA950 (ha) with special made video drivers, but if I got this dock, I could make it my portable gaming laptop. And this thing is tiny. Look up the Lenovo Thinkpad X60.
Looks like it'd be flimsy as fuck
I am 100% convinced my galaxy s2 could stop a rifle bullet after the shit I've put it through, and I don't even have a case for it.
Firmware would probably be a bitch too. You look at consoles and phones and such that all run on standardized chipsets (especially apple products) and they are optimized to work their best with these certain sets of chipsets and combinations of cpus/gpus. But you start throwing loads of different combinations into the mix and I could see it becoming an unoptimized, buggy, and power-consuming mess
Super neat idea though, just needs a bit of grounding
The reality of the matter is that we do need to start making products which can last longer. Not only phones, but cars and others things as well. We throw so much out when there clearly must be a more economic way to go about it.
I posted this Video to my social media, if you guys think its not going to happen, but want it, then at least do that.
[QUOTE=Rebdomine;42150075]why does it matter unless they know how to make it happen?[/QUOTE]
so other people can make stuff happen ofc
I don't know why nobody had mentioned this yet but,
If the idea is to stop throwing your electronics away (phones in this case), then when you upgrade each block, aren't you inevitably [i]throwing the old block away[/i]...?
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;42150541]so other people can make stuff happen ofc[/QUOTE]
yeah but it's like those people who want to make a mod or a game but have no knowledge of game development and then they just go on a forum and say "I have a great idea for a mod/game"
[QUOTE=Deathclaw.;42150612]I don't know why nobody had mentioned this yet but,
If the idea is to stop throwing your electronics away (phones in this case), then when you upgrade each block, aren't you inevitably [i]throwing the old block away[/i]...?[/QUOTE]
Well this way you don't have to throw away all the blocks if only one is broken or old.
Alternatively we could make phoneblokbloks
[QUOTE=Rebdomine;42150075]This is fucking retarded and it wouldn't work. Just an "idea guy" video. Tons of people have ideas, but why does it matter unless they know how to make it happen? I have no idea why this has so many winner ratings.[/QUOTE]
A lot of great creations start from, "Wouldn't it be cool if..."
Let's get a brain storm going in this thread here and now. What's shown in the video is impractical and frankly dumb, but the basic idea of a modular phone is quite appealing in many ways.
So far the two fundamental ideas most stated for this to even be possible are standardized block sizes and a designated area for each block.
I'll start throwing some more ideas out -
The obvious answer for what operating system to use is Android. Linux is extremely flexible, so using different blocks actually shouldn't be too big of an issue. So long as the block has its module available to Android, and Android can detect when a new block is placed or replaced, it'd be possible to keep things in line. Perhaps the producer of the block can submit the proper module to a centralized database, and changing blocks would require an internet connection to continue. Or, blocks could work on a plug-and-play ideology. It'd be a matter of standards for compliance past that, which isn't terribly complex.
Secondly, chipsets and sockets are an issue for the CPU and GPU. I see three possible solutions to this. All but one assume the the frame and motherboard are considered a module themselves.
A. Keep the CPU, GPU, motherboard, and perhaps even the RAM as one big module. All other parts can still be easily changed.
B. Use a standardized socket, and force compliance.
C. Have different types of frames/mobos for different 'speed' modules. Assume for simpliticy's sake that all 'speed' modules have the CPU, GPU, and perhaps RAM in one package (even though this doesn't necessarily need to be the case). Speed Modules A, B, and C can work with Frame A, but Speed Modules D and E require Frame B, and so on. With clear labeling, it shouldn't be too complex for users to grasp. Again, this assumes the frame/mobo is a module as well.
Parts shouldn't be terribly expensive either, if produced by a company that buys the components in mass volumes. [url=http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nvidia-Tegra-3-Costs-Between-15-25-11-3-to-18-9-Says-Company-236695.shtml]The Tegra 3 chip costs $25 to hardware manufacturers[/url]. [url=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xone+x+screen+&_nkw=one+x+screen+replacement&_sacat=0&_from=R40]You can order a One X touch digitizer and LCD for under $40 retail.[/url] Et cetera.
Screen size wouldn't be hard to change. So long as the frames are the same size, all they need to do is snap into a new body that supports a larger screen. That could also lead to highly customized cases, or even a design-your-own-phone-body type of deal.
I'd be extremely interested in some sort of program where you can design your own module through a company that can easily get these parts. That'd be impractical for the average user, though.
Even just getting this to design stage would be pretty cool.
i'd just put as many cameras on it as i can
Actually, This would be totally possible. Just think of all the addons/modules as USB devices. Think, You can plug any USB device into any part of the computer.
Just have the Battery CPU/Ram/GPU as different connections in the same "block".
Use the Rasberry PI as an example! Everything attached to that can be changed/added/removed. Monitor, speakers, wifi, mouse, keyboard are all external parts. Even the storage.
I'd do some sort of concept art, but I'm the worst artist.
Fun idea and all that, but electronics do not work that way.
[QUOTE=thedekoykid;42151409]Actually, This would be totally possible. Just think of all the addons/modules as USB devices. Think, You can plug any USB device into any part of the computer.
Just have the Battery CPU/Ram/GPU as different connections in the same "block".
Use the Rasberry PI as an example! Everything attached to that can be changed/added/removed. Monitor, speakers, wifi, mouse, keyboard are all external parts. Even the storage.
I'd do some sort of concept art, but I'm the worst artist.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that you have to have a computer to recognize the devices. Their example would be like plugging a bunch of usb devices into one of these:
[IMG]http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/elecom-compact-10-ports-usb-hub_2.jpg[/IMG]
without plugging it into anything else.
[QUOTE=laserpanda;42152067]The problem is that you have to have a computer to recognize the devices. Their example would be like plugging a bunch of usb devices into one of these:
[IMG]http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/elecom-compact-10-ports-usb-hub_2.jpg[/IMG]
without plugging it into anything else.[/QUOTE]
I would assume that the platter itself has a microprocessor to control flow, but that begs the question of whether this kind of configuration would really be practical or just incessantly complex and expensive.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;42152275]incessantly complex and expensive[/QUOTE]
it'd be expensive because as a service, producing this stuff would have to come at a premium due to:
• low demand from a consumer market that just wants things to work without having to think about which of the potentially dozens of addons are manditory or unnecessary. Lack of demand merits a high price to offset manufacturing/maintaining stock
• the insane amount of development to even make a partially modular interface to slap stuff on would cost companies lots of time and money on R&D
• universal interface with companies producing parts to lego together? That's not going to happen. Who makes the breadboard? Will everyone make a breadboard? who sets the universal standard? What's stopping someone from developing a breadboard that only works for their own parts, and making one [i]really good[/i] part that everybody wants so they have to buy up that company's board and a whole new set of bricks to slap on it? What if they come out with a larger, better breadboard and it has differently spaced holes to make up for the size of the new power supply?
• how unbelievably huge is it
do we understand what's in a phone right now? It's 90% screen and then there's super tiny specially engineered boards with ultra fine circuitry linking all of the pieces exactly how they need to in as little space as possible
[img]http://modmyi.com/images/akshay/Galaxy_S4_Teardown.jpg[/img]
the big chunks floating in space are the cameras, headphone jack, and speakers. Notice something? They connect to the board with tons of super tiny contacts- something that isn't one or four or more comparitively gargantuan contact plug pins
LEGO!
Also, empty/unused slots would need spacer blocks [I]or[/I] a cheap filler, smallest block size, that adds a little memory or something else cheap and easy to do.
This isn't going to happen.
Is his idea even possible? Im not sure if there's a thought behind this or just a designer having fun
i think that idea is near impossible. but if someone manages to create that, the board and components would be way more complex and bigger, meaning they would just generate more eletronic waste than what we have today.
I just wish he could give out some information, rather than just the general idea. He hasn't even said what he works as or what kind of experience he has with these kinds of things.
it's like the deus ex inventory
This is just another marketing ploy.
Awesome idea, I hope it takes off.
Also, [img]http://i.imgur.com/HTu35X0.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Mikk;42158077]Awesome idea, I hope it takes off.
Also, [img]http://i.imgur.com/HTu35X0.png[/img][/QUOTE]
A phone the size of grandma?
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