These people have no real concrete views but while I do understand that they feel they are being punished because they made bad decisions on their investments or circumstance, it still doesn't make any sense why they are accusing the government of being taxed and told what to do. There are laws in please to protect the people and without money coming in from the people, the countries infrastructure would fall apart because of underinvestment.
[QUOTE=Ultralast;21606455]youre an unemployed 12 year old twat
it doesn't even affect you and your lack of payroll, dont complain[/QUOTE]
I'm 21 and in the Air Force. Nice armchair activism there kiddo.
My grandpa thinks that Obama is Muslim and he's a terrorist.
I'm not kidding.
NHS healthcare is awesome! What they jabbering about.
This is rly fucked up
Oh shit honestly ?
If you listen to Fox News then your opinions are immediately invalid.
[QUOTE=Ultralast;21602077] and you're surprised? [/QUOTE]
More along the lines of having an aneurysm from the shear stupidity of such a proposal.
How can anyone effectively read a bill that is two times longer than a Bible? It's completely ludicrous. Oh and by the way, I tried looking it up, and there's like 2 versions of the same bill which run a total of over 4,000 pages combined... IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE :byodood:
I bet half of them voted for Bush
Ugh. I live in the south. 90% of these retards probably live down the street from me.
[QUOTE=MiKeV;21607431]I'm 21 and in the Air Force. Nice armchair activism there kiddo.[/QUOTE]
oh, and btw, this guy is waving his e-penis around in pms because hes too scared to do it here
I agree with the Global Warming is Bullshit deal, but when it comes down to it, nobody knows, so there's no point in laying out billions of dollars from all countries everywhere to solve it, when it may not even be an issue
Secondly, I know what we should do with the illegals that are already here, and I'd hate to do it but it'll probably work out for the better... Especially since they aren't going anywhere anyway... legalize them... Make them pay taxes and pay into Social Security... That should take some strain for a while
I also think Taxes are needed and a must, but the IRS should fuck off and die in multiple bus crashes, however many it takes to kill it... people want to talk about the government having too much power need to look at just the IRS... They can take what they want when they want if they just want to... and the IRS's legality is actually questionable
Anyway, the simple fact here is the majority of these people are undereducated about the subject, and have no business parading around saying one thing or another as fact, even to things you can hold up and say LOOK IT IS RIGHT THE FUCK HERE, they just sit there and shake their head no
[QUOTE=TheTalon;21624966]I agree with the Global Warming is Bullshit deal, but when it comes down to it, nobody knows, so there's no point in laying out billions of dollars from all countries everywhere to solve it, when it may not even be an issue
I also think Taxes are needed and a must, but the IRS should fuck off and die in multiple bus crashes, however many it takes to kill it... people want to talk about the government having too much power need to look at just the IRS... They can take what they want when they want if they just want to... and the IRS's legality is actually questionable
Anyway, the simple fact here is the majority of these people are undereducated about the subject, and have no business parading around saying one thing or another as fact, even to things you can hold up and say LOOK IT IS RIGHT THE FUCK HERE, they just sit there and shake their head no[/QUOTE]
I second that.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;21624966]Secondly, I know what we should do with the illegals that are already here, and I'd hate to do it but it'll probably work out for the better... Especially since they aren't going anywhere anyway... legalize them... Make them pay taxes and pay into Social Security... That should take some strain for a while[/QUOTE]
I agree. It's either that or GTFO. I like how everyone is going fucking bonkers about cops in Arizona asking for IDs and papers and the Mexicans are calling it racism and shit. But it's funny, in Mexico, THEY DO THE SAME THING. If you don't have your papers in Mexico, your ass goes to jail. And in some cases, it's a felony. You can get up to 10 years. The media is making a big deal out of it saying that "OMG IT'S A CRIME IF YOU DON'T PROVE CITIZENSHIP". lol And? So we're complaining that something is a crime.....when it's already ILLEGAL? Good fucking grief what is the world coming to.
As John Stewart said... Arizona is the Methlab of Democracy, for actually doing some things in a short span of time... I actually hope the other states catch on and start doing the same thing... Except maybe the new weapon law... People walking into McDonalds with an AK over their shoulder is a bit much but hey, That's one hell of a crime deterrent
I agree with it though. It's our constitutional right, so there's no reason to be deprived of it. And the police unions over there said their best friend on the streets is a law-abiding citizen (no pun intended) equipped to protect themselves or others. And the crime deterrent factor is huge. It's already been proven that in places where there's no gun control laws restricting the purchase or possession of firearms, the crime rate has been reduced. Bad guys aren't gonna fuck around when they know other people are packin the same shit. And just having a major gaggle fuck of "OMG NO GUNS", the bad guys are still going to get weapons.
The tea partiers have real grievances, but they are being given incredibly bad answers to their plight. Right wing media is pushing this ridiculous argument of socialist and communist agendas, but it is an answer, albeit it a horrible one. Until they get a proper organised alternative they are going to keep these views.
[QUOTE=combine487;21626164]but they are being given incredibly bad answers to their plight.[/QUOTE]
Newsflash, you're going to get that with any group of people. Liberals, Conservatives, Independents, everyone. It's easy to ask a shit ton of people questions and then edit out the smart people, leaving it a video with nothing but morons.
[QUOTE=MiKeV;21625997]I second that.
I agree. It's either that or GTFO. I like how everyone is going fucking bonkers about cops in Arizona asking for IDs and papers and the Mexicans are calling it racism and shit. But it's funny, in Mexico, THEY DO THE SAME THING. If you don't have your papers in Mexico, your ass goes to jail. And in some cases, it's a felony. You can get up to 10 years. The media is making a big deal out of it saying that "OMG IT'S A CRIME IF YOU DON'T PROVE CITIZENSHIP". lol And? So we're complaining that something is a crime.....when it's already ILLEGAL? Good fucking grief what is the world coming to.[/QUOTE]
It's racial profiling, and it's wrong. Basically, the bill Arizona passed states that if any officer has suspicion he can ask for papers if he thinks they look like an illegal immigrant. That isn't something you can tell by looking at someone. It's the same idea as pulling all Muslims out of the line in the airport to make sure they aren't hijackers or bombers. I am in no way saying that we shouldn't do anything about illegals, but that was a step in the wrong direction, and crossed the line.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;21626038]As John Stewart said... Arizona is the Methlab of Democracy, for actually doing some things in a short span of time... I actually hope the other states catch on and start doing the same thing... Except maybe the new weapon law... People walking into McDonalds with an AK over their shoulder is a bit much but hey, That's one hell of a crime deterrent[/QUOTE]
Because easy access to guns for everyone means no crime
:downs:
[QUOTE=Jabberwock09;21627170]It's racial profiling, and it's wrong. Basically, the bill Arizona passed states that if any officer has suspicion he can ask for papers if he thinks they look like an illegal immigrant. That isn't something you can tell by looking at someone. It's the same idea as pulling all Muslims out of the line in the airport to make sure they aren't hijackers or bombers. I am in no way saying that we shouldn't do anything about illegals, but that was a step in the wrong direction, and crossed the line.[/QUOTE]
lol, It's not profiling, people are just all scared now that the law is being enforced. The number of illegal immigrants in Arizona is insane. People think that officers everywhere are going to looking at be Mexicans and asking for papers and shit. No, it's going to be in situations like traffic stops/arrests etc, where they observe the individual. If a cop stops someone that's an illegal immigrant, you'll see the look on their face that'll cause suspicion. I'm in law enforcement in the military and we deal with shit like that all the time. The times I've pulled people over (that ended up DUI), you can already tell before you even smell the alcohol or see bloodshot eyes, etc, the look on their face is like "Oh shi-".
And I don't see how this is a step in the wrong direction. Something needed to be done. Immigration is a HUGE issue in Arizona. I live there. This is pretty basic actually, if law enforcement asks you to show your shit, show your shit. If your not an illegal immigrant, you have nothing to worry about. People are so fucking quick to play the race card these days it's ridiculous. I mean, damn, if you don't like someone all you gotta say is they're offending you or say they're racist.
If you're an illegal immigrant, get ready to GTFO. Just like in every other country, including MEXICO. It's harsher in Mexico if you're an illegal, yet God forbid America enforce that law, that's racist.
[QUOTE=Valdor;21582386]Ok, Give up all your money and possessions and dedicate your life to helping the needy in some obscure third world country. Oh wait, You wouldn't do that because you live in a completely different society and our world just happens to be based on many different societies. People lucky enough to be born into a middle or upper class country compared to the lower end countries shouldn't feel ashamed about it.
Yes we should help the other countries, But to say that we should ship everybody from a country where they have vast wealth (Wealth per person that is, Yes I know the US is in debt) into a country/society which they haven't been born in? Place somebody born in a third world country into the middle of New York and they would probably panic and end up getting themselves hurt/killed.
You act like you know things but what you seem to be forgetting is that information can be hard to come by for people even if they have access to it since a lot of the times they don't know what to look for or they hop on the bandwagon. Interestingly enough you have hopped on the bandwagon of the US yourself, Having not taken a deeper look and only glanced at the videos showing the dumber side.
So bravo to you, I hope you don't try to influence anybody with your mindless bullshit or I'd seriously begin to worry. Please don't try to discuss things that are beyond your comprehension.[/QUOTE]
You have to be kidding me, I wasn't serious about shipping them to another country it was a joke, an exagerration, you for real? Please calm the crap down, and realise that wasn't a literal idea.
When did I speak about helping other countries, the point of my post was taking the piss out of America being a nation filled with fat people (THAT WAS A JOKE), and how there health system is designed for the purpose of making money not for being a health system, like I said watch the documentary Sicko.
Seriously, I was joking calm the hell down, when was I acting like I thought I knew a lot I was taking the piss out of the people on this video not the whole of America for craps sake, I'm not that closed minded to believe a whole nation can be shown by a handful of people on a youtube video. Beyond my comprehension? What is there to comprehend I was merely making a joke about the fat and stupid people on this video and you get all arrogant and big headed about it.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;21626038]As John Stewart said... Arizona is the Methlab of Democracy, for actually doing some things in a short span of time... I actually hope the other states catch on and start doing the same thing... Except maybe the new weapon law... People walking into McDonalds with an AK over their shoulder is a bit much but hey, That's one hell of a crime deterrent[/QUOTE]
People walk around town with guns slung over their shoulder all the time where I live, small American towns are cool.
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[QUOTE=Pruneyboy;21607935]NHS healthcare is awesome! What they jabbering about.[/QUOTE]
They don't want to pay for other peoples fuck ups? Is it that hard to understand?
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[QUOTE=TunnelSnake;21634009]Because easy access to guns for everyone means no crime
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You would rob a place when there is someone standing there with an AK?
[QUOTE=evilweazel;21635723]
You would rob a place when there is someone standing there with an AK?[/QUOTE]
If AKs were so readily available, I'd have one myself. Thereby making it almost infinitely easier to commit a crime.
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