Registration is disabled?

[locojaws]

[QUOTE=garry;39630319]
It's something we need to figure out really. I definitely don't want to charge people to make an account - even though that would solve all the problems. Maybe we need to vet each join somehow.[/QUOTE]
I think you should charge money for any new accounts.
Less spambots and alts, and more quality posts because if someone gets permabanned it actually is a waste of money that they spent on the account.

[Cowabanga]

[QUOTE=locojaws;39630509]I think you should charge money for any new accounts.
Less spambots and alts, and more quality posts because if someone gets permabanned it actually is a waste of money that they spent on the account.[/QUOTE]

I think Garry doesn't want FP to be a wannabe SA ripoff

[Download]

[QUOTE=Cowabanga;39630515]I think Garry doesn't want FP to be a wannabe SA ripoff[/QUOTE]

I remember back in the day when FP was always described as a SA ripoff

[Lua Laputa]

Ah I remember on the Simpsons forum years ago you had to wait 24 hours after registration to post

[Cowabanga]

[QUOTE=download;39630523]I remember back in the day when FP was always described as a SA ripoff[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I like how FP reached a level where it's considered a unique community.

[cdlink14]

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;39630443]That wouldn't prevent anything except deter spambots. My system is to make sure that legit users get a feel for the forum before getting set loose.[/QUOTE]
It would reduce the amount of shitposters. If I was going to spam/troll a forum I think I'd be pretty deterred by the fact that I not only have to register again but also have to fill out 5 questions which possibly requires me to go do some research on google.

[QUOTE=garry;39630453]This could work[/QUOTE]
Couldn't you add in some sort of vouch system? For instance when a new user registers they get the option to bypass this "1 week waiting time" by typing in the username of an existing user who will vouch for them.

The vouching user then receives a message asking if they know the new user, if yes, then the new user is allowed posting rights immediately, if they don't know the new user then the new user has to wait 1 month instead of 1 week to be allowed to post.

[Download]

[QUOTE=cdlink14;39630534]It would reduce the amount of shitposters. If I was going to spam/troll a forum I think I'd be pretty deterred by the fact that I not only have to register again but also have to fill out 5 questions which possibly requires me to go do some research on google.

Couldn't you add in some sort of vouch system? For instance when a new user registers they get the option to bypass this "1 week waiting time" by typing in the username of an existing user who will vouch for them.

The vouching user then receives a message asking if they know the new user, if yes, then the new user is allowed posting rights immediately, if they don't know the new user then the new user has to wait 1 month instead of 1 week to be allowed to post.[/QUOTE]

All you'd need is one retard to get past it and he'd vouch all his fellow retards in. It would need to be more than one person

[cdlink14]

[QUOTE=download;39630540]All you'd need is one retard to get past it and he'd vouch all his fellow retards in. It would need to be more than one person[/QUOTE]

Shared consequences? If the new user gets a ban within a set amount of time the vouching user gets the same if not a higher ban. It would really make people think about who they'd vouch for.

[Maloof?]

Make it so any new registrations have to be filled out in person at the Facepunch UK offices

[editline]19th February 2013[/editline]

You can use parchment and everything

[ScottyWired]

[QUOTE=cdlink14;39630560]Shared consequences? If the new user gets a ban within a set amount of time the vouching user gets the same if not a higher ban. It would really make people think about who they'd vouch for.[/QUOTE]

I don't want to suffer consequences for what someone else did.

[Titanium]

Most of the alts are already filtered by the ipban thing I guess. A vouch system works, just make it so if the guy gets banned, the voucher receives a ban as well. Fear always works.

[no, actually]

how am i supposed to know if the person i vouch for is going to act like a fucking idiot or not

[Download]

[QUOTE=Anthracite;39630583]Most of the alts are already filtered by the ipban thing I guess. A vouch system works, just make it so if the guy gets banned, the voucher receives a ban as well. Fear always works.[/QUOTE]

All I have to do in Australia to get a new IP is reset my router, many place in the world don't give home internet users static IPs

[cdlink14]

[QUOTE=Qubik;39630595]how am i supposed to know if the person i vouch for is going to act like a fucking idiot or not[/QUOTE]

That's why you only vouch for them if you trust them. The idea is you can get people you trust (friends, family, etc) onto the forum without much hassle.

[Cowabanga]

[QUOTE=download;39630596]All I have to do in Australia to get a new IP is reset my router, many place in the world don't give home internet users static IPs[/QUOTE]

Same here, I only need to restart my router. Maybe save session id in cookies to recognize the same person, might mow down computer illiterate people who get perma'd.

[cdlink14]

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;39630577]I don't want to suffer consequences for what someone else did.[/QUOTE]

Then don't vouch for them if you don't trust them to not screw up.

EDIT: Cowa keeps breaking my automerges :tinfoil:

[no, actually]

[QUOTE=cdlink14;39630602]That's why you only vouch for them if you trust them. The idea is you can get people you trust (friends, family, etc) onto the forum without much hassle.[/QUOTE]

i didnt know anyone here when i joined these forums

[laserguided]

[QUOTE=cdlink14;39630609]Then don't vouch for them if you don't trust them to not screw up.[/QUOTE]
Then nobody will vouch for new users.

[ScottyWired]

[QUOTE=cdlink14;39630602]That's why you only vouch for them if you trust them. The idea is you can get people you trust (friends, family, etc) onto the forum without much hassle.[/QUOTE]

Who in their right mind would get any of their real friends on this forum :v:

And to agree with download, it just takes one person to approve their fellow retards.

[Cabbalistic]

[QUOTE=download;39630432]Alternatively, we could have a introductions forum where you have to tell everyone about yourself and then need a certain amount of approvals before getting to use the rest of the forum[/QUOTE]

Personally, I think this is probably one of the better ideas.

Have it so that new people can only post in a single thread, but view everything else for say a week. If they prove that they aren't a spammer (by posting actual stuff in the thread), they get full access. If not, most of the spam will be contained to the thread, and the user can be banned.

[cdlink14]

[QUOTE=Qubik;39630610]i didnt know anyone here when i joined these forums[/QUOTE]

Nor did I, again let me reiterate: The idea isn't to get new members into the forum faster, it's to get people you personally trust onto the forum with full posting privileges faster.

People without a trusted connection here aren't going to get in much quicker and any new user trying to abuse the vouching system would be punished with the inability to be vouched for and with a longer waiting time before posting.

As for the shared consequences it would only apply for the week that they would of otherwise had to wait to post.

[editline]18th February 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;39630620]Personally, I think this is probably one of the better ideas.

Have it so that new people can only post in a single thread, but view everything else for say a week. If they prove that they aren't a spammer (by posting actual stuff in the thread), they get full access. If not, [B]most of the spam will be contained to the thread[/B], and the user can be banned.[/QUOTE]

But then that means users/admins/mods having to weed through a possibly spam filled thread to find legit users to allow full access.

[Drakehawke]

[QUOTE=cdlink14;39630632]
But then that means users/admins/mods having to weed through a possibly spam filled thread to find legit users to allow full access.[/QUOTE]

You could say the same about the Refugee Camp, but plenty of golds view and rate in that regularly

[Brandy92]

Smartness was always a favorite of mine. It really cut down on the terrible users.

Fully automated and hilarious at the same time. :v:

[turing]

[QUOTE=garry;39630453]This could work[/QUOTE]

no, if you have to lurk a week before posting it would decease the amount of users massively, I know when I found this forum ages ago, I only made an account to respond to something or post in some thread

if I had to wait a week to post then I would be just like "fuck that" and close facepunch tab and move on with my life

[editline]18th February 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Brandy92;39630678]Smartness was always a favorite of mine. It really cut down on the terrible users.

Fully automated and hilarious at the same time. :v:[/QUOTE]

it was fucking shit

you couldn't speak other languages and stuff that wasnt in the dictionary

[cdlink14]

[QUOTE=Drakehawke;39630662]You could say the same about the Refugee Camp, but plenty of golds view and rate in that regularly[/QUOTE]

I've seen quite a lot of erroneous bans there in which the ratings show that the members/users don't think the person should have been banned, but the admins leave the ban intact.

This whole thing can get a bit complicated if the refugee camp is anything to go by, giving the users and admins power over who gets in will likely result in a lot of users vs. admin situations.

[mechanarchy]

[QUOTE=Xubs;39630780]I sure wish I could register to ditch this dinosaur account and use my proper screen name.[/QUOTE]

just [url=http://facepunch.com/store/]pay to change your name[/url], it's only :20bux:

[SquidsEye]

I like the idea of an anti-refugee camp. New users make an introduction thread/post which gets rated by members and then the ones with decent ratings get approved by a moderator.

[editline]18th February 2013[/editline]

Either that or bring a refined smartness system back.

[Sini]

Make it so people need to use their work, ISP or educational email for registration. It will ensure high level of personal responsibility and doesn't let people have multiple accounts. And it's free.
NeoGAF has done this very successfully.

[laserguided]

[QUOTE=SinineSiil;39631117]Make it so people need to use their work, ISP or educational email for registration. It will ensure high level of personal responsibility and doesn't let people have multiple accounts. And it's free.
NeoGAF has done this very successfully.[/QUOTE]
Personal responsibility wouldn't work if you consider what seems to be the average age group of your average facepuncher.

[The Adjudicator]

[QUOTE=garry;39630453]This could work[/QUOTE]

The idea isn't new though, I think back years ago the argument against this was people signing up for immediate help for let's say gmod for example. But w/e give it a shot