[QUOTE=Turing;39635469]no, because facepunch is always fucking bandwagoning on ratings
if the first 2 people rate it dumb the next 129 people will rate it dumb
if the first 2 people rate it agree the next 129 people will rate it agree[/QUOTE]
Yeah ok it wouldn't work
I guess we need a system that doesn't incorporate any kind of voting, people would just fuck it up
[QUOTE=postal;39636647]The point of making the paid game be gmod is that it lets in the people that just need gmod support, which we get very often
Not really, we still have an active gmod section and lots and lots of people that come here just for gmod support. Gmod is still a big part of the forums. Maybe not as big as the rest yeah but I wouldn't call it non-existent either.[/QUOTE]
Of course, we've simply expanded into something new.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;39636961]1. they pay with the blood of their father
2. this isnt a democracy
3. yes prove your worth by fighting other applicants to the death
4. if by lurk you mean lurk in the amazon rain forest with no supplies for 6 months than yes
5. only if they post the decapitated head of their first kill
6. good idea all potential users should fight each other once a week if they fail they lose a limb this gives them 4 chances to get in
your idea could work if instead of ratings they had to acquire the hearts of 5 other applicants
yes these ideas are good we should start immediately we just need to build an arena and get some weapons preferably axes and swords[/QUOTE]
7. Suck garrys dick
thread over
Not sure how effective it would be, but I'll just leave this here because I'm not sure whether you guys would like or hate it.
[del][B]A small application system?[/B] I've seen this in use for large gameserver forums.
[U]Step 1[/U]: User must read through a document where they are told how to post, what not to post, the rules, etc.
[U]Step 2[/U]: User is given a small quiz with radio buttons and check boxes based on that document.
[U]Step 3[/U]: At the bottom of the quiz, there should be a box where you write a reason to be accepted as a forum member. THIS is the important part. Here the user can express themselves and a shitposter or advertiser might be obvious.
[U]Step 4[/U]: Quiz is turned in. Only quizzes with correct answers to all questions will follow the next step.
[U]Step 5[/U]: Quiz with correct answers will await approval for the written portion. This is the only part that would require moderation.
Pros: No payments, relatively painless, quick way to learn the rules
Cons: Needs moderator action
Any thoughts on things like this?[/del]
No it was an aweful idea.
[img]http://puu.sh/24Mco[/img]
That's right.
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Make it like you're entering a country.
[i]For business or pleasure?[/i]
[i]Business[/i]
[b]Get the fuck out[/b]
[QUOTE=Corey_Faure;39637040]Not sure how effective it would be, but I'll just leave this here because I'm not sure whether you guys would like or hate it.
[B]A small application system?[/B] I've seen this in use for large gameserver forums.
[U]Step 1[/U]: User must read through a document where they are told how to post, what not to post, the rules, etc.
[U]Step 2[/U]: User is given a small quiz with radio buttons and check boxes based on that document.
[U]Step 3[/U]: At the bottom of the quiz, there should be a box where you write a reason to be accepted as a forum member. THIS is the important part. Here the user can express themselves and a shitposter or advertiser might be obvious.
[U]Step 4[/U]: Quiz is turned in. Only quizzes with correct answers to all questions will follow the next step.
[U]Step 5[/U]: Quiz with correct answers will await approval for the written portion. This is the only part that would require moderation.
Pros: No payments, relatively painless, quick way to learn the rules
Cons: Needs moderator action
Any thoughts on things like this?[/QUOTE]
overly excessive
[QUOTE=Corey_Faure;39637040]Not sure how effective it would be, but I'll just leave this here because I'm not sure whether you guys would like or hate it.
[B]A small application system?[/B] I've seen this in use for large gameserver forums.
[U]Step 1[/U]: User must read through a document where they are told how to post, what not to post, the rules, etc.
[U]Step 2[/U]: User is given a small quiz with radio buttons and check boxes based on that document.
[U]Step 3[/U]: At the bottom of the quiz, there should be a box where you write a reason to be accepted as a forum member. THIS is the important part. Here the user can express themselves and a shitposter or advertiser might be obvious.
[U]Step 4[/U]: Quiz is turned in. Only quizzes with correct answers to all questions will follow the next step.
[U]Step 5[/U]: Quiz with correct answers will await approval for the written portion. This is the only part that would require moderation.
Pros: No payments, relatively painless, quick way to learn the rules
Cons: Needs moderator action
Any thoughts on things like this?[/QUOTE]
FP never reads so 90% of us would fail that
[editline]18th February 2013[/editline]
sorry 99%
[QUOTE=download;39631905]We could have a forum you can access straight away, for gmod related questions, and another for introducing yourself and getting full privileges[/QUOTE]
Why would you even bother introducing yourself to gain access to the other forums if you have no idea what those other forums are like? For all you know it could just be another dead forum community nobody uses.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;39630328]I have an idea-
Don't let people post links or media until they've proven themselves as a good poster. People jump on the users page, click some kind of "I approve of this user" button and when the user has gathered enough approvals from the community they get full posting abilities. Lets Facepunch have a bit of control over who they want hanging around.[/QUOTE]
I've seen this before on another forum. It ... wasn't a very good system at all. Even if someone was a quality poster, they ended up at the bottom of the barrel, essentially, for not agreeing with the majority or being a bit unconventional.
I haven't read the rest of the thread yet, but this stuck out for me, especially since I've seen a lot of people rate 'dumb' when they disagree rather than the disagree button.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;39637174]Why would you even bother introducing yourself to gain access to the other forums if you have no idea what those other forums are like? For all you know it could just be another dead forum community nobody uses.[/QUOTE]
I think he means view only
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;39637174]Why would you even bother introducing yourself to gain access to the other forums if you have no idea what those other forums are like? For all you know it could just be another dead forum community nobody uses.[/QUOTE]
No. No no nonono
What if, instead, we have it so you have to reach a [b]low[/b] post count to enter the other forums. Start by dumping the fuckers into the fast threads.
[editline]18th February 2013[/editline]
Problem solved.
How a mix of all system with points and leveling
having steam levels you up 1, aka level 2, gmod level 3. 100 posts is 100 points. Every level is 100 points with an increasing point factor of +25 per level. Gold membership automatically grants 5 levels. Levels can be used for Booster and changing peoples titles and everyone thats level 30 automatically becomes gold, 60 mod. Bad spelling and dumb ratings removes points. Good ones add points. Depending on the amount of bans + ban time points are removed.
You can also pay money to become a high enough level to be mod too.
[sp]Hahaha, just fucking with you all... what a terrible idea.[/sp]
Make a system that requires 15 gold members to approve the user.
Make a new section of the forum for fresh meat, where only they can post to show they're worth being let into the rest of the forum.
[QUOTE=J!NX;39637298]How a mix of all system with points and leveling
having steam levels you up 1, aka level 2, gmod level 3. 100 posts is 100 points. Every level is 100 points with an increasing point factor of +25 per level. Gold membership automatically grants 5 levels. Levels can be used for Booster and changing peoples titles and everyone thats level 30 automatically becomes gold, 60 mod. Bad spelling and dumb ratings removes points. Good ones add points. Depending on the amount of bans + ban time points are removed.
You can also pay money to become a high enough level to be mod too.
[sp]Hahaha, just fucking with you all... what a terrible idea.[/sp][/QUOTE]How about we use a class based system. We can have 3 types, warriors, rogues, and magicians. Every time you make a post you have to battle a monster and afterwards you get exp.
Exp can be used to level up your class status. When you level up you gain skill points that can be allocated to boost specific attributes to change how you fight the monsters. Some could also give a passive boon to your stats.
Once you reach a certain post count you have to fight a boss. The boss could be postals ass and if you successfully defeat it you gain full membership.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;39637349]Make a system that requires 15 gold members to approve the user.
Make a new section of the forum for fresh meat, where only they can post to show they're worth being let into the rest of the forum.[/QUOTE]
Nice idea. Make freshmen shave their hair and pubes, post 6 pictures of them nude from every angle, give credit card info, and THEN they get to prove their worth and be accepted by golds.
[QUOTE=Amic;39637569]Nice idea. Make freshmen shave their hair and pubes, post 6 pictures of them nude from every angle, give credit card info, and THEN they get to prove their worth and be accepted by golds.[/QUOTE]
yeah idk about you but we aren't into little kids so really why shave + post nudes unless your a fiddler?
what a creepy fucking post :v:
[QUOTE=J!NX;39637583]yeah idk about you but we aren't into little kids so really why shave + post nudes unless your a fiddler?
what a creepy fucking post :v:[/QUOTE]
What he's describing is the hazing of University freshmen by fraternities. This is not something children do.
[QUOTE=GeneralSpecific;39637657]What he's describing is the hazing of University freshmen by fraternities. This is not something children do.[/QUOTE]
yeah but most of FP is 15-25 :v:
[QUOTE=postal;39636290]You have to take into account that we're half the main gmod forum and half a general purpose message board. An invite system doesn't work for people who are just having issues with gmod since they probably don't know anyone here, and checking if you own gmod doesn't work for people who just want to join for the other sections. Not everyone here owns gmod.
That's no different than the report feature since both require mod approval for the person to get banned. We have enough mods anyways.
It'd encourage people to learn the rules and the way the forum works before posting yeah but it's still just gonna piss off people in need of gmod support and make trolls just make lots of accounts on lots of IP's in advance.[/QUOTE]
This. It's extremely annoying asking people to upload their G-Mod models elsewhere so they can be used with SFM
80% of all replies are "JUST GET G-MOD YOU LAZY ASS"
we could do the 1-week lurk thing for everywhere but the Gmod forum
It would probably need more mods in the gmod section, but it would prevent banned spergs from rejoining and shitposting on a new account after 2-3 minutes.
I'm not sure payment or voting is such a good idea and certainly not leaving it up to the general populace to decide who gets in and who doesn't. Mainly because the only people who would hang around in the "grey" subforums would be the people who get their kicks from dealing out judgments left right and center.
Having gmod support, forum help and any of the other essential areas allowed for new members seems like the best idea, with mods (Or mod approved mini mods that are confirmed to not be cocknokkets) vetting members in, something as simple as asking a question in a thread.
However I still think that the majority of gmod shitposting support is due to the "issues" with searching.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;39637807]we could do the 1-week lurk thing for everywhere but the Gmod forum
It would probably need more mods in the gmod section[/QUOTE]
Why would it require more mods? Registration was only recently disabled, we were fine beforehand.
--SNIPPED BAD IDEAS AHOY--
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;39633311]It isn't Facepunch's job to do account security for you
thats your job[/QUOTE]
I think it is the responsibility of a mod to email an erratic account. (ie one that joined to report a garrysmod problem (or something similar), then became active 2 months later with shitpost after shitpost after shitpost)
but the whole idea isn't to stop shit posting as we already are doing that, just to make people not able to just register 1000 accounts and keep it to 1, max 2.
reserving a section doesn't fix anything because now all those spammers shit on the gmod section and we still have spam.
Ultimately gmod being required or a platinum steam (paid game) is the only god idea because lets face it, everyone here has steam, well, MOST people have steam on FP. Plus gmod requirement to make threads in gmod forums is a great idea because then you don't have asshats with pirated gmod.
Not only that, but steam login means permabans stay even more permanent.
Yeah disabling registering and using some sort of weird system to get people in like referrals or time-based systems is the worst idea if just slapped on.
You can't forget that this forum is used for Garry's mod support as well, which a lot of people probably find important to retain access to. If people have a problem do they really want to make it a week between registering and actually being able to post their query - especially if they don't intend to come back and really are just looking for a solution to their problem. That's just ridiculously inconvenient. Also, spergs who have been perma'd and keep re-registering aren't going to be deterred by a week long wait - most of them have probably been through week long bans many a time before. Even people who want to make a million alts aren't going to be put off by a week long wait.
If it's going to be a 'wait a couple of weeks idea', make access to certain essential parts of the forum available from the get-go, posting and all - Garry's mod support, Refugee camp, maybe screenshots or GD or something, I don't know. Put in one of the yellow notices up the top that takes you to the general ruleboard. Make sure to explain that full access is given after a trial period or something. Otherwise it's just shit for the people who legitimately need some help.
I'm going to cast my vote in for the steam account activation idea. It shouldn't require gmod though, maybe just any games worth more than $10-$15. Just because some people come here for gmod support doesn't mean everyone who comes here cares about it.
Ban everyone.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;39638558]Ban everyone.[/QUOTE]
besides you ofcourse
[QUOTE=postal;39638058]Why would it require more mods? Registration was only recently disabled, we were fine beforehand.[/QUOTE]
The reason being that newcomers (or people making alts) would only allowed to post in the GMod support section and not the rest of the forum for that first week, it would be Shitpost Central Station.
Maybe it wouldn't need more mods, but the mods would have to pay extra special attention to it.
Let new members only have access to the OIFY. If they're still able to so much as touch their computer after 24 hours of time on it, they're worthy of the rest of the forum.
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