[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;21441226]Yep. They're even different generations of firearms, if you get what I'm trying to say.[/QUOTE]
Uh not really.
Shouldn't it technically be like...load and lock?
[QUOTE=jaredop;21441304]They were made to fulfill the same purpose, a smaller rifle with full auto capability using an intermediate round that they could issue to the bulk of the troops.[/QUOTE]
the AK is meant to be issued to any two bit illiterate in a third world country, whereas the M16 is meant for more professional use. They're both reliable enough to go through more ammunition than any soldier will be firing in a day's worth of time, and they're both easy to maintain. The M16 is abit more sophisticated and alot more precisely built; causing the price of an individual one to be atleast twice as much as an AK. The advantage, however, is that it has twice the range and thrice the precision of an AK.
The rounds they fire have some difference, though. 7.62x39 is alot better at penetrating thick, heavy cover but suffers strong ballistic drop and a lower degree of accuracy compared to the NATO standard 5.56x45. They both have adequate terminal performance however and a well placed shot from either one can easily bring a man down in one or two shots.
[QUOTE=Loen;21441752]the AK is meant to be issued to any two bit illiterate in a third world country, whereas the M16 is meant for more professional use. They're both reliable enough to go through more ammunition than any soldier will be firing in a day's worth of time, and they're both easy to maintain. The M16 is abit more sophisticated and alot more precisely built; causing the price of an individual one to be atleast twice as much as an AK. The advantage, however, is that it has twice the range and thrice the precision of an AK.
The rounds they fire have some difference, though. 7.62x39 is alot better at penetrating thick, heavy cover but suffers strong ballistic drop and a lower degree of accuracy compared to the NATO standard 5.56x45. They both have adequate terminal performance however and a well placed shot from either one can easily bring a man down in one or two shots.[/QUOTE]
Great summary. The M16/M4 is also built very modularly for lots of attachments and formats. The AK series has very clunky looking rails and an even goofier looking grenade launcher. Russians make due with whatever they've got though I suppose.
[QUOTE=Shoupie;21441528]Shouldn't it technically be like...load and lock?[/QUOTE]
You're sort of right.
[quote]To load a Garand, the bolt would be locked to the rear and a clip of ammunition loaded into the receiver. The command lock and load was immortalized by John Wayne in the 1949 movie The Sands of Iwo Jima:
Lock and load, boy, lock and load.
There are earlier uses of the command reversed, load and lock. This command, primarily used on firing ranges, referred to the loading of a single round into the Garand (or into another weapon). In this case, the lock referred to striking the bolt handle with the heel of the hand to ensure it was fully closed and locked into place.[/quote]
[url]http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/site/2006/09/P5/[/url]
[QUOTE=Penguiin;21442226]Great summary. The M16/M4 is also built very modularly for lots of attachments and formats. The AK series has very clunky looking rails and an even goofier looking grenade launcher. Russians make due with whatever they've got though I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Oh dear.
What's this? A tank episode without a mention of true classics like the Soviet T-34?
I just watched Full Metal Jacket, fucking hell Ermey is funny.
[QUOTE=Aedan1;21440176]The M16 is better engineered. :P[/QUOTE]
The AKM was a lot more reliable and is more renown for its ease of use and the ability to mass-produce them effectively. They're far better engineered in the durability spectrum, but the M16/AR-15 series holds a bit over them.
[QUOTE=Deadpan;20974412]Now let me see your war face.
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I love this show
[QUOTE=yuki;21483758]The AKM was a lot more reliable[/QUOTE]
Man screw my M16 which can go through thousands upon thousands of rounds before a misfire or jam, those AKs can go through another thousand or two!
[QUOTE=yuki;21483758]and is more renown for its ease of use[/QUOTE]
The AK's stock is short as hell, the selector is in a position where you have to take your entire hand off the grip, and the handguard is too thin.
Disassembly for both of them is a snap though.
[QUOTE=yuki;21483758]and the ability to mass-produce them effectively.[/QUOTE]
That is what russian firearms are known for, but it's not like M16s haven't been mass produced for one of the largest militaries in the world along with being exported to numerous other countries.
[QUOTE=yuki;21483758]They're far better engineered in the durability spectrum,[/QUOTE]
You can bounce an M16 off a wall and back into your hands repeatedly and the worse it'll do is scratch up the finish and maybe bump the sight's windage out of zero.
[QUOTE=yuki;21483758]but the M16/AR-15 series holds a bit over them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they're far more accurate, ergonomic, and lightweight.
They're both solid weapons, but the only advantage the AK has really is a marginal reliability increase and better heavy cover penetration.
Guns rock.
One of the very few good remaining shows on History. I love Gunny's sarcastic if-not obscurely morbid comments! :buddy:
Does anyone know when / if this show is coming back?
He also had another series called 'Mail Call'. He was also the bad ass hoss in the movie SE7EN.
I figured Lock N' Load was sorta the successor of Mailcall, but I haven't seen it on in awhile and hadn't heard anything from it.
I never heard about it being canceled either, it just sorta vanished.
Mail Call was one of my favorite shows ever. Definitely liked it better than Lock and Load. It had more of a military theme if you know what I mean.
normally id say
OH BOY I DONT NEED TO MAKE THE THREAD NOW
but this is a plain sorry excuse for a thread
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[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;28292299]Does anyone know when / if this show is coming back?[/QUOTE]
probably never
I preferred Mail Call
Mail Call and Lock N' Load are great, only problem is they moved it from the History channel to MILH, which is Military History channel? which I don't get :/ Why did they have to create a whole new channel for Lock N' Load and Shootout! I guess R. Lee Ermy is just that badass he needs his own channel...
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