Thinking of Joining the Military? V2 - General

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[QUOTE=W0w00t;36923937]women can join the military except their only way to get anywhere will be through gratuitous amount of dick. women are not allowed in combat arms, except somethings like the female engagement teams we have in a-stan[/QUOTE] Technically female Marines are infantry. Every Marine is a rifleman first.

If you go to college for four years, and don't have the military pay for it, do you still have to be an officer for 10 years?

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;36923803]RP's. (religious personnel). Will also fight on land, and will also get into some pretty spec-ops shit such as the riverine squadron. Also Corpsman are part of the Navy because it's our heritage. It started out as pharmacists mate who would assist the deck surgeon in medical matters, during the days of wooden ships and iron men.[/QUOTE] I was informed RP are strictly non-combative... [QUOTE=G3rman;36923866]Is it true women can't join in the armed forces over there, at least as regular soldiers? Over here we commonly have a good amount joining the armed services, even if its still predominantly male.[/QUOTE] Where do you mean by "over there"? I must have missed the post you're referring to. If you are talking about the USA, then women are not allowed to be in the Infantry, among a few other MOS's. This does NOT mean that women won't be sent on field operations where they will be exposed to combat situations. They get the same loadout and are expected to perform the same duties in a combat environment as men are.

[QUOTE=Master Kief-117;36936818] Where do you mean by "over there"? I must have missed the post you're referring to. If you are talking about the USA, then women are not allowed to be in the Infantry, among a few other MOS's. This does NOT mean that women won't be sent on field operations where they will be exposed to combat situations. They get the same loadout and are expected to perform the same duties in a combat environment as men are.[/QUOTE] Seeing as how the majority of posters here are American, the USA is what I'm referring to. Although it is still rare, women are finding themselves in much more diverse roles in the Bundeswehr. Since we might still be in the US's position if it wasn't for the EU, I wanted to know the progress of women in the military.

I [I]was[/I] thinking of joining the military, before I was diagnosed with diabetes. Fuck.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;36932004]Technically female Marines are infantry. Every Marine is a rifleman first.[/QUOTE] DONT KNOW IF IM OFFENDING ANYONE HERE BUT thats what the pogs say

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;36932004]Technically female Marines are infantry. Every Marine is a rifleman first.[/QUOTE] Ya no, they learn field skills. Shooting a few machine guns and living in tin cans for a week does not make you infantry.

The Hell. So they train women in entirely separate companies in Pendleton?

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;36939950]The Hell. So they train women in entirely separate companies in Pendleton?[/QUOTE] Are you being serious? They train in separate companies everywhere... Go back to air wing bro.

[QUOTE=Leff Shoo;36940075]Are you being serious? They train in separate companies everywhere... Go back to air wing bro.[/QUOTE] I don't fuckin' know TRADOC SOP's I thought they were separated on platoon levels, having 200 shemales in one place is too much.

Women train with us, and they can have access to any career they wish. Of course, they still have a preference to non-fighting areas, but that isn't surprising with the old guard still in commanding positions. [IMG]https://treff.bundeswehr.de/resource/resource/MzEzNTM4MmUzMzMyMmUzMTM1MzMyZTM2MzIzMDMwMzAzMDMwMzAzMDY3NmE3ODMyMzI2NDZmNjMyMDIwMjAyMDIw/image_popup.jpg[/IMG]

Getting chicks killed on the battlefield is bad PR for civvies back home

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;36940185]Getting chicks killed on the battlefield is bad PR for civvies back home[/QUOTE] They are not chicks, they are trained soldiers who serve the government of Germany with distinction just like their male counterparts. And we do not get them killed, the government does not force them to sign up and conscription is still barred for females. In training they definitely made the whole thing a lot bearable by bringing a different perspective to others, but they still participated just as the males did.

People still live in a society that 'protects women,' there's been talk of allowing females to get into more combat mos's (infantry, tanks, etc.) and there was an attempt to have women take part in drafts decades ago. There's going to be a lot of people that will recoil at the thought of having women fight literally on the front lines. I'm not just walking about rear-echelon personnel.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;36940400]People still live in a society that 'protects women,' there's been talk of allowing females to get into more combat mos's (infantry, tanks, etc.) and there was an attempt to have women take part in drafts decades ago. There's going to be a lot of people that will recoil at the thought of having women fight literally on the front lines. I'm not just walking about rear-echelon personnel.[/QUOTE] Maybe in the US where military is very close in priorities, but here its different. Sure men want to protect women, but we also have to reserve their right to choose that which they want to do. There are reports that females make use of psychological counseling more than males, but that is because of how women are raised and being more open about feelings, and yet they still remain in service and live normal lives. That is something we can be proud of.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;36939950]The Hell. So they train women in entirely separate companies in Pendleton?[/QUOTE] No, they're in mixed companies for MCT. I'm saying MCT doesn't make you an infantrymen. You learn how to handle a rifle, a few machine guns, an rocket launcher, and an M203 and that's it. You spend at most a few hours on that. That is not enough time to become proficient in those skills. Yes we can shoot back, yes we can do the stuff infantry does, but we are not infantry.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;36940400]and there was an attempt to have women take part in drafts decades ago.[/QUOTE] speaking of which, what's your guys' opinions on the draft and Selective Service?

[QUOTE=Master Kief-117;36936818]I was informed RP are strictly non-combative... Where do you mean by "over there"? I must have missed the post you're referring to. If you are talking about the USA, then women are not allowed to be in the Infantry, among a few other MOS's. This does NOT mean that women won't be sent on field operations where they will be exposed to combat situations. They get the same loadout and are expected to perform the same duties in a combat environment as men are.[/QUOTE] RP's used to go to SOI (school of infantry) back in the day( they go to FMTB now ). But a main facet of an RP's job is protecting the Chaplain. Chaplains are deployed everywhere thus requiring RP's. Also with many branches of the military you will do a lot of shit that's not officially your job. I know an RP1(E-6) who's been deployed with the seals and riverine squadron. This dude got 10 rows of ribbons. My case being RP's will do some crazy shit.

Planning on enlisting in the Marines I'm motivated and physically fit and all that junk I just want to know if I need any money at all before enlisting. I have no bills to pay at the moment, no student loans or anything but only about $40 to my name. Is there a certain amount of money I should have saved up before enlisting?

[QUOTE=hansjurgen;36962653]Planning on enlisting in the Marines I'm motivated and physically fit and all that junk I just want to know if I need any money at all before enlisting. I have no bills to pay at the moment, no student loans or anything but only about $40 to my name. Is there a certain amount of money I should have saved up before enlisting?[/QUOTE] Nope.

[QUOTE=hansjurgen;36962653]Planning on enlisting in the Marines I'm motivated and physically fit and all that junk I just want to know if I need any money at all before enlisting. I have no bills to pay at the moment, no student loans or anything but only about $40 to my name. Is there a certain amount of money I should have saved up before enlisting?[/QUOTE] All you need is the clothes on your back and evidence of the presence of a brain inside your cranium.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;36962813]evidence of the presence of a brain inside your cranium.[/QUOTE] (optional) [editline]27th July 2012[/editline] There's a waiver for that

Thanks for the help I'm simply not cut out to frolic around some college campus my parents are gonna be in for quite a surprise when they get a call from me from boot camp.

[QUOTE=hansjurgen;36965661]Thanks for the help I'm simply not cut out to frolic around some college campus my parents are gonna be in for quite a surprise when they get a call from me from boot camp.[/QUOTE] A soldier can be scholarly too, there is nothing wrong with school past primary institutions.

Out of nowhere I considered joining the coast guard. Does anyone know what I can expect? I know next to nothing about military structure, though I do have the badges memorized for the most part. My main impetus for wanting to join was that I wanted to make myself into a ~MAN~ and I like boats and guns and shit. Milspec stuff gives me a hardon. So, am I just retarded for considering it with this skill set and reasoning?

I understand that. I've wanted to be in the military for most of my life even though my family is very opposed to the idea. I decided somewhat reluctantly to go to college before considering any kind of military career as a bit of a compromise with my parents. However, I think enlisting and serving before I go to college is a better idea. I feel a strong need to serve my country and work with the others that have decided to, but I don't know if I want it to be my lifelong career. Enlisting first will give me a chance to serve my country but also give me some versatility in deciding what my lifelong career will be. In addition, if I serve my four years (or however long I am obligated to) and decide the military isn't for me then I will have gained a huge amount of knowledge and experience which will be with me for the rest of my life, and it will pay for my college.

Yeah, that's basically my reasoning too. I'm just not very good with articulating it.

[QUOTE=hansjurgen;36965661]Thanks for the help I'm simply not cut out to frolic around some college campus my parents are gonna be in for quite a surprise when they get a call from me from boot camp.[/QUOTE] Some of the smartest kids I know plan to go into the military, these are kids with GPA's that make a 4.0 look like nothing. As G3rman said, soldiers can be scholarly.

Indeed. I got a 99 AFQT and a 137 GT score and I am a damn mechanic. However, it is what I wanted to do so I am completely content. Also, if you like guns, the Coast Guard is not the service for you. Since you like boats and whatnot, the Navy might also be another consideration.