[QUOTE=Fueger;37285624]For anybody looking to do marine or navy aviation, I took the ASTB yesterday. It's not as hard as people say.[/QUOTE]
What is the ASTB?
[editline]17th August 2012[/editline]
Nevermind, Wikipedia. So you take it before OCS?
Pssst, you can do Army Aviation by taking the AFAST. You also set yourself on track to becoming the best thing in the military- a warrant officer.
[editline]17th August 2012[/editline]
You can take it without ever enlisting too.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;37292179]WOW you lucky motherfuckers actually get [b]round[/b] coins?
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/120817-162057.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
When did they start handing out coins at basic?
All I got was a shitty yearbook that didn't even have any pictures of our battery in it.
I didn't get my coin from basic, it was awarded to me by my squadron commander after being the youngest person to complete a spur ride.
all i have is meaningless jrotc rank
rip
[QUOTE=W0w00t;37297401]all i have is meaningless jrotc rank
rip[/QUOTE]
That's fine, it will translate into E-2 - E-3 in the service though. That is how I got my PFC, 4 years of AFJROTC.
yeah thats why im doing assfuckjewrots
[editline]18th August 2012[/editline]
because otherwise i fucking hate alot of the people in it
[editline]18th August 2012[/editline]
"future leaders" my ass, leadership isn't what it is in jrotc
I'm pretty set on going to art school, but I haven't ruled out the military (specifically the Navy) yet. I'm 16, and an E-5 in the US Naval Sea Cadets youth program. Because of this, if I enlist in the Navy, I start off as an E-3 instead of an E-1, plus I already know regulation drill, customs and courtesies, 11 General Orders/Sailor's Creed/other stuff, rate and ranks, etc.
However, I honestly think I'd be happier as an artist, but I'd have a massive leg up if I enlisted in the Navy. I've attended many trainings across the US, and worked with Army, Navy, and Marine Corps personnel. Because of these experiences I've decided that I don't want to be a man on the ground, I'm 6'3 and I can't stand being doubled over all the time, and no offence to any of you guys but some of the Marines I met were really giving me second thoughts.
Anyway, I was wondering if there were any art-related jobs in the Navy. I know it seems like a stupid question, but it would be a great compromise for me. I'd imagine it would be something along the lines of recruitment and advertising; not quite my thing, but I'd be pigeon-holed right into it. I also know about combat artists, but I believe that practice has slowly died with the advent of portable high quality cameras.
So yeah, am I better off just going to art college or does the military have any opportunities for me?
[QUOTE=salmonmarine;37298231]I'm pretty set on going to art school, but I haven't ruled out the military (specifically the Navy) yet. I'm 16, and an E-5 in the US Naval Sea Cadets youth program. Because of this, if I enlist in the Navy, I start off as an E-3 instead of an E-1, plus I already know regulation drill, customs and courtesies, 11 General Orders/Sailor's Creed/other stuff, rate and ranks, etc.
However, I honestly think I'd be happier as an artist, but I'd have a massive leg up if I enlisted in the Navy. I've attended many trainings across the US, and worked with Army, Navy, and Marine Corps personnel. Because of these experiences I've decided that I don't want to be a man on the ground, I'm 6'3 and I can't stand being doubled over all the time, and no offence to any of you guys but some of the Marines I met were really giving me second thoughts.
Anyway, I was wondering if there were any art-related jobs in the Navy. I know it seems like a stupid question, but it would be a great compromise for me. I'd imagine it would be something along the lines of recruitment and advertising; not quite my thing, but I'd be pigeon-holed right into it. I also know about combat artists, but I believe that practice has slowly died with the advent of portable high quality cameras.
So yeah, am I better off just going to art college or does the military have any opportunities for me?[/QUOTE]
I can't really speak for the Navy, but in the army there's a great 25M MOS, which is a multimedia illustrator. I don't know that much about the MOS but you'd be designing and illustrating presentations, propaganda and diagrams for the Army.
There's also 25V which is a Production Specialist, basically you'd produce videos and newscasts for the Army, from what I hear it's a pretty cool job. You also get to go out in the field and record combat.
Those are the only two 'art' related mos's that I can think of. I can't say if you'd be better off going to art college though, if you want to do art, do art, if you want to join the military join the military. You aren't going to do any real art in the military, but if you're looking for some structure to your life and maybe a little bit of training then maybe the military isn't a bad idea for a few years, but it's going to be nothing like art college.
[QUOTE=salmonmarine;37298231]I'm pretty set on going to art school, but I haven't ruled out the military (specifically the Navy) yet. I'm 16, and an E-5 in the US Naval Sea Cadets youth program. Because of this, if I enlist in the Navy, I start off as an E-3 instead of an E-1, plus I already know regulation drill, customs and courtesies, 11 General Orders/Sailor's Creed/other stuff, rate and ranks, etc.
However, I honestly think I'd be happier as an artist, but I'd have a massive leg up if I enlisted in the Navy. I've attended many trainings across the US, and worked with Army, Navy, and Marine Corps personnel. Because of these experiences I've decided that I don't want to be a man on the ground, I'm 6'3 and I can't stand being doubled over all the time, and no offence to any of you guys but some of the Marines I met were really giving me second thoughts.
Anyway, I was wondering if there were any art-related jobs in the Navy. I know it seems like a stupid question, but it would be a great compromise for me. I'd imagine it would be something along the lines of recruitment and advertising; not quite my thing, but I'd be pigeon-holed right into it. I also know about combat artists, but I believe that practice has slowly died with the advent of portable high quality cameras.
So yeah, am I better off just going to art college or does the military have any opportunities for me?[/QUOTE]
The Navy has a rate called Mass ComMunications specialist which is the closest you'll get to that.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;37295637]Pssst, you can do Army Aviation by taking the AFAST. You also set yourself on track to becoming the best thing in the military- a warrant officer.
[editline]17th August 2012[/editline]
You can take it without ever enlisting too.[/QUOTE]
No thank you, I'm planning on doing Naval Aviation and being at the top of my class so I can choose advanced strike. That's the plan, but we'll see how it goes. If anything, I prefer fixed-wing.
Anyone here in the Royal Air Force?
[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;37299588]Anyone here in the Royal Air Force?[/QUOTE]
Nope, not many people in the British Armed Forces here, I believe I'm the only one round here (don't really watch this thread much so correct me if I'm wrong). I'm Army but I'm sure I can help ya.
Wait, so for the US people here if you're in cadets/jrotc programs you can start out as a higher rank in the military if you join at the appropriate age?
[QUOTE=Prez;37303856]Wait, so for the US people here if you're in cadets/jrotc programs you can start out as a higher rank in the military if you join at the appropriate age?[/QUOTE]
If you spend a certain amount of years in a JROTC program, you can enlist as a higher rank. Since I spent all four of my highschool years in JROTC, I was able to enlist as an E-3.
2 years = certificate of whatever = e-2
3-4 years = certificate of completion = e-3 (except usmc, only e-2)
The automatic rate also applies as time in grade. So you'll be 6 months ahead of others, and in the Air Force you can go for Below the Zone, which would put you another 6 months ahead of others.
Or you could enlist for 6 years, and get E-3 in 4 months after basic.
[QUOTE=l33tkill;37305035]The automatic rate also applies as time in grade. So you'll be 6 months ahead of others, and in the Air Force you can go for Below the Zone, which would put you another 6 months ahead of others.
[B]Or you could enlist for 6 years, and get E-3 in 4 months after basic.[/B][/QUOTE]
instant RIP mode
I enlisted for six years. I plan on staying in more than that though.
[QUOTE=Killerjc;37305791][B]RIP[/B][/QUOTE]
No really, I wanna know
A lot of people don't want to do six year enlistments. That is what I think they are trying to say.
That's pretty sick; I wish they did that in Canada haha. I'm going into my 7th and last year as a cadet here, and I'm the commander of my air squadron.
I got E-3 9 months (including the 3 at boot) after I enlisted with a 5 year contract. It would have been the same for a 4 or a 3, so unless they were giving me E-4 signing a 6 year contract wouldn't be worth it to me initially. You can plan all you want before you get in but you really don't know what you're signing up for until you've been in for a while.
I was the only one in my BMT flight with a 4 year enlistment, and definitely one of very few in my tech school. I don't know what the other branches do, but the AF recruiters pound the 6 year hard. The liason at MEPS said I'd basically be throwing away a good career cause I wouldnt be pushed into it.
If I had enlisted for 6 years I could have gotten a $20,000 bonus instead of a $6,000 bonus. I regret that decision but at the time four years seemed like an eternity, let alone six.
That is a lot more than my $600 bonus.
Well if I had enlisted a few years prior to when I did I could have gotten $40,000 for four years.
I'll probably still get a nice reenlistment bonus when my time comes though.
Hah, you and your bonuses. Air Force only gives em to like air traffic controllers and special forces
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