[QUOTE=SKEEA;37970698]Ground vehicles are a pain to maintain. Aviation maintenance is where it's at. Sure, it can be difficult and precise at times, but it is very rewarding and has a massive payoff in the civilian world.[/QUOTE]
I'll have to look into that, I like working on trucks and if I can't get a job fixing computers its still something I think I'd like.
Keep in mind, I may be somewhat biased as an Aviation guy.
[QUOTE=EvilSkydiver;37968294]We have some sf guys here and this one captain has a ranger tab, special forces tab and a airborne tab.
I think he has earned the right to shake Chuck Norris hand.[/QUOTE]
iirc you have to have ranger training to be SF, though i'm not sure about airborne
[QUOTE=WastedJamacan;37972331]iirc you have to have ranger training to be SF, though i'm not sure about airborne[/QUOTE]
You get an airborne tab if the unit you are assigned to has an airborne designation. I am in the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) so that means that anyone under the division has the screaming eagle with the airborne tab above it. Airborne tabs are nothing special. Also, you don't need ranger training to be SF. I can actually apply to SF right now, no previous infantry or ranger experience required. Anyone in the Army can.
Oh shit, I totally forgot to ask this.
Glasses. What are the Marine's guidelines on glasses? My eyesight's a tad poor without them, but I can get a fine sight-picture with them on.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37972837]Oh shit, I totally forgot to ask this.
Glasses. What are the Marine's guidelines on glasses? My eyesight's a tad poor without them, but I can get a fine sight-picture with them on.[/QUOTE]
Like any branch of the military, I am 100% sure that they will do a vision test on you when you do all of your processing, and then issue you glasses with prescription lenses in them, as well as inserts for your eyepro and perhaps gas mask. Nothing to worry about.
*phew* thanks for clearing that up, dude.
I was scared to death that it would hold me back.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37972915]*phew* thanks for clearing that up, dude.
I was scared to death that it would hold me back.[/QUOTE]
Just make sure you are within acceptable vision limits and you will do fine. Hopefully you aren't the kind of person with mini-hubbles on your face.
I was reading that for the marines you can't have worse than 20/200 that is correctable to 20/20.
[QUOTE=Apache249;37966219]Are there any officers on Facepunch? All I see is a wave of enlistedmen.[/QUOTE]
That would be me. What can I do for you?
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[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;37967997]Scariest thing I've seen to date: an O-1 Brony[/QUOTE]
I must be downright terrifying then being an O-2.
[QUOTE=camaroni;37975718]That would be me. What can I do for you?
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I must be downright terrifying then being an O-2.[/QUOTE]
Are you the naval officer? Anyway, I was wondering how the selection process goes for jobs such as aviator or tank officer.
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or others
[QUOTE=Apache249;37975767]Are you the naval officer? Anyway, I was wondering how the selection process goes for jobs such as aviator or tank officer.
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While I am a naval officer, I'm a Staff Officer in the Medical Service Corps. I am not as well informed about selection to positions such as that. Are you familiar with Officer Candidate School though? Your detailer might have a bit more insight about that. But essentially OCS is for enlisted personnel that are selected after putting in their package to go to OCS. From there, aviators can go to flight school (usually in Pensacola) and then have to commit to additional years in the military. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful but I'm not going to lie to you about this.
[QUOTE=camaroni;37976205]While I am a naval officer, I'm a Staff Officer in the Medical Service Corps. I am not as well informed about selection to positions such as that. Are you familiar with Officer Candidate School though? Your detailer might have a bit more insight about that. But essentially OCS is for enlisted personnel that are selected after putting in their package to go to OCS. From there, aviators can go to flight school (usually in Pensacola) and then have to commit to additional years in the military. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful but I'm not going to lie to you about this.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm familiar with OCS, about how you can go to a civilian university and then go there, which is what I plan to do. What do you mean by my "detailer."
[QUOTE=Apache249;37978619]Yeah I'm familiar with OCS, about how you can go to a civilian university and then go there, which is what I plan to do. What do you mean by my "detailer."[/QUOTE]
Actually that's ODS. That's what I went to. I had already received my Master's degree and my commission. OCS is for people that have not gotten a post-graduate degree and they have not received their commission. They will at the end of the course. I guess if you are enlisted it would be your Chief that would be acting as your career counselor. For staff officers, a detailer is the individual that helps with getting you from one duty station to the next. I'm working with mine right now as I'm in my window to PCS next year.
[QUOTE=camaroni;37978913]Actually that's ODS. That's what I went to. I had already received my Master's degree and my commission. OCS is for people that have not gotten a post-graduate degree and they have not received their commission. They will at the end of the course. I guess if you are enlisted it would be your Chief that would be acting as your career counselor. For staff officers, a detailer is the individual that helps with getting you from one duty station to the next. I'm working with mine right now as I'm in my window to PCS next year.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure? I've never heard anything of ODS. For example, the wikipedia article:
[QUOTE]The United States Navy's Officer Candidate School, currently located at Naval Station Newport, Rhode Island, provides training to become a commissioned officer. Attendance is one possible way for civilian college graduates (bachelor's degree or higher) with no military experience to earn a commission as a U.S. Navy officer.[/QUOTE]
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The plot thickens. A few sentences after my other quotation. This rather confusing. You talk to recruiters about becoming an officer as you would for enlisting, right?
[QUOTE]Alternatives include the Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps, Officer Development School (ODS), and graduation from the United States Naval Academy.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ocs.navy.mil/ods.asp[/url]
[url]http://www.ocs.navy.mil/ocs_program_overview.asp[/url]
I did talk to a recruiter that exclusively worked with medical personal before joining the Navy. I know some of my friends became officers those other ways you listed. What's interested is that Newport puts out about 2/3rds of all naval officers whereas the Academy accounts for around 30 percent.
Do you get paid in boot camp?
Yes, as soon as you get to reception and get to finance, your pay starts.
[QUOTE=Apache249;37979850]Are you sure? I've never heard anything of ODS. For example, the wikipedia article:
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The plot thickens. A few sentences after my other quotation. This rather confusing. You talk to recruiters about becoming an officer as you would for enlisting, right?[/QUOTE]
OCS is for enlisted to officer, ODS is for people with masters, PHD's, MD's etc. OCS is 8 weeks I think and ODS is 6.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;37988224]OCS is for enlisted to officer, ODS is for people with masters, PHD's, MD's etc. OCS is 8 weeks I think and ODS is 6.[/QUOTE]
What about bachelor's degrees?
[QUOTE=Apache249;37988633]What about bachelor's degrees?[/QUOTE]
The only thing I know that can get a direct commission with a bachelors is Engineering, and as far as I know that's only for the Public Health Service Corps
I'm going to need to speak with a recruiter. It doesn't seem reasonable that the only ones who go to OCS/ODS are super geniuses with 6+ years of college. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Associate's degrees?
So I don't know jack shit about enlisting. All I know is that I have to talk to a recruiter and ask him everything. But what's something I can learn from here. A decent AFS and what are the requirements.
[QUOTE=Apache249;37989112]I'm going to need to speak with a recruiter. It doesn't seem reasonable that the only ones who go to OCS/ODS are super geniuses with 6+ years of college. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Associate's degrees?[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that For ODS, these people are your nurses, doctors, lawyers, dentists, chaplains, and what not. ODS is for people that become Staff officers or Restricted Line officers.
[QUOTE=camaroni;37993475]Keep in mind that For ODS, these people are your nurses, doctors, lawyers, dentists, chaplains, and what not. ODS is for people that become Staff officers or Restricted Line officers.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about Naval Aviation here.
[QUOTE=Apache249;37995207]I'm talking about Naval Aviation here.[/QUOTE]
Naval Aviation? Perhaps you could apply to Annapolis. That is always another option.
[QUOTE=Apache249;37995207]I'm talking about Naval Aviation here.[/QUOTE]
Every officer needs at least a BA or BS, AS are a no go. You would need to go to OCS so you could be a non-limited line officer to attend the flight school in Pensacola.
Ok so let me get this right, whenever you are here in the US you are stationed and whenever you are in another country where there is a war going on you are deployed?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;37997023]Every officer needs at least a BA or BS, AS are a no go. You would need to go to OCS so you could be a non-limited line officer to attend the flight school in Pensacola.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I know. My plan was to get my BS then go to OCS. At least that's what I thought, but now I have you guys saying that A) OCS is [B]only[/B] for enlistedmen who are selected and B) ODS is only for people with masters, PHD, etc.
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[QUOTE=SKEEA;37995358]Naval Aviation? Perhaps you could apply to Annapolis. That is always another option.[/QUOTE]
I'm considering Annapolis, but I really want to go to a civilian university. The midshipmen cruise is really putting me off, if it's what I think it is.
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I put a bit of thought into it and think that OCS(or whatever) is the right option for me.
What sucks for me is that I'd be stuck with 14N if I went officer. It's not a job that has a specific work load. As awesome as it would be going officer, I just don't think I could do it. I love having a specific mission dealing with something that I could keep a primary focus on. I know not all AFSCs are like that, but re-training would be a bitch.
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