[QUOTE=Zerokateo;38000621]Ok so let me get this right, whenever you are here in the US you are stationed and whenever you are in another country where there is a war going on you are deployed?[/QUOTE]
When your unit is given a 'mission' or orders from FORSCOM/SOCOM or anything higher than a brigade-level command to go a place where there is an active US Operation (i.e. Afghanistan) you're deployed.
You can be sent to Germany/S. Korea/Italy/Okinawa but you're not 'deploying' there. You can be stationed overseas
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;38000621]Ok so let me get this right, whenever you are here in the US you are stationed and whenever you are in another country where there is a war going on you are deployed?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, just backing up what Caboose is saying; The Army has what are called CONUS (Contiguous United States, being the US mainland) and OCONUS (Outside of the Contiguous US: Places like Hawaii, Alaska, Germany, etc.). You are deployed when you receive deployment orders from higher higher, and then you go to an active theater of combat operations.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38003162]Yeah, just backing up what Caboose is saying; The Army has what are called CONUS (Contiguous United States, being the US mainland) and OCONUS (Outside of the Contiguous US: Places like Hawaii, Alaska, Germany, etc.). You are deployed when you receive deployment orders from higher higher, and then you go to an active theater of combat operations.[/QUOTE]
So when you are deployed and you aren't doing anything are you in a form of barracks?
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;38003213]So when you are deployed and you aren't doing anything are you in a form of barracks?[/QUOTE]
[B]HA[/b] haha.
It really depends on what you do.
Infantrymen such as I would sometimes find themselves in significantly smaller FOBs in more volatile regions maintaining security, usually these bases would probably be a series of tents/shacks/porto-johns and a few watchtowers with substandard conditions. If you get lucky you could go out and dig into a position for even more forward operations.
Other personnel could have barracks in larger FOBs in where their profession is in higher demand. Mechanics, medical personnel, anybody in a 'higher echelon' could be put into larger FOBs though some Personnel Other than Grunts may find themselves pulling security or having to go out on patrols in missions that require their specific skills, (i.e. engineers moving out to repair a bridge or extract a disabled vehicle, medics tagging along with infantry)
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;38003290][B]HA[/b] haha.
It really depends on what you do.
Infantrymen such as I would sometimes find themselves in significantly smaller FOBs in more volatile regions maintaining security, usually these bases would probably be a series of tents/shacks/porto-johns and a few watchtowers with substandard conditions. If you get lucky you could go out and dig into a position for even more forward operations.
Other personnel could have barracks in larger FOBs in where their profession is in higher demand. Mechanics, medical personnel, anybody in a 'higher echelon' could be put into larger FOBs though some Personnel Other than Grunts may find themselves pulling security or having to go out on patrols in missions that require their specific skills, (i.e. engineers moving out to repair a bridge or extract a disabled vehicle, medics tagging along with infantry)[/QUOTE]
I see then, I'm just trying to find out everything I need to know before I join. I'm not even going to speak to a recruiter for 2 more years and I'm already figuring out what I'll be doing finance wise, My parents will let me live in the house whenever I'm not stationed on base.
[QUOTE=Apache249;37995207]I'm talking about Naval Aviation here.[/QUOTE]
Professional lurker here, please allow me to cut in. I'm currently applying for naval ocs as a hopeful nfo. Hopefully I can answer a few of your questions and offer a tip or two.
1. Get a bachelor degree, you'll need it.
- Do well in school and try to get a 3+ gpa
- Degree type kinda matters. engineering > tech > frilly nilly art bullshit
- Military colleges, rotc, and the academys are given more slots. However, going to a joe blow university and getting a slot is totally doable.
2. Kick ass on the ASTB; scores like 7/7/7 with a OAR 50+ is technically competitive, but you want a OAR higher than 59. Also, you only get THREE chances. Don't blow it.
3. You can still be an aviator with poor eyesight; you may just need to back seat like I'm trying to do.
4. Volunteer work looks awesome, so does leadership experience.
5. If you're looking into aviation, try taking a few flight lessons - flight time also looks good.
6. Be prepared to wait, aviation selection boards are twice a year (I may be incorrect). You'll also be compared to people that you may consider to be "super geniuses".
7. There are enlisted recruiters and officer recruiters. You want to talk to a officer recruiter.
8. Never ever give up
[URL="http://www.airwarriors.com/"]*These guys should be able to answer any aviation questions you have.*[/URL]
[QUOTE=Fueger;38005636]Professional lurker here, please allow me to cut in. I'm currently applying for naval ocs as a hopeful nfo. Hopefully I can answer a few of your questions and offer a tip or two.
1. Get a bachelor degree, you'll need it.
- Do well in school and try to get a 3+ gpa
- Degree type kinda matters. engineering > tech > frilly nilly art bullshit
- Military colleges, rotc, and the academys are given more slots. However, going to a joe blow university and getting a slot is totally doable.
2. Kick ass on the ASTB; scores like 7/7/7 with a OAR 50+ is technically competitive, but you want a OAR higher than 59. Also, you only get THREE chances. Don't blow it.
3. You can still be an aviator with poor eyesight; you may just need to back seat like I'm trying to do.
4. Volunteer work looks awesome, so does leadership experience.
5. If you're looking into aviation, try taking a few flight lessons - flight time also looks good.
6. Be prepared to wait, aviation selection boards are twice a year (I may be incorrect). You'll also be compared to people that you may consider to be "super geniuses".
7. There are enlisted recruiters and officer recruiters. You want to talk to a officer recruiter.
8. Never ever give up
[URL="http://www.airwarriors.com/"]*These guys should be able to answer any aviation questions you have.*[/URL][/QUOTE]
I should be good to go by then. I'm planning on getting my BS in Aerospace Engineering, so that shouldn't be a problem. Does the university I go to make a difference at all? For example UC Davis vs. MIT.
[editline]12th October 2012[/editline]
Also, did you do all of the things you posted?
[QUOTE=Apache249;38005783]I should be good to go by then. I'm planning on getting my BS in Aerospace Engineering, so that shouldn't be a problem. Does the university I go to make a difference at all? For example UC Davis vs. MIT.
[editline]12th October 2012[/editline]
Also, did you do all of the things you posted?[/QUOTE]
I don't believe what university you go told holds much weight. That's a good question for that forum I gave you though. As for doing all those things I have a BS in Aviation Technology and graduated with a 3.35 gpa. I hold a PPL with around a 100 hours and have a few volunteer / leadership experiences. On the ASTB I got a 7/7/6 61 which is pretty respectable score. All in all, I've waited around 3 year since I wanted to apply for OCS and not use BDCP( dumb decision, I know). With all the things in mind, I still have a very good chance at a slot. Basically be a well rounded individual and you'll have your shot.
[QUOTE=Fueger;38007840]I don't believe what university you go told holds much weight. That's a good question for that forum I gave you though. As for doing all those things I have a BS in Aviation Technology and graduated with a 3.35 gpa. I hold a PPL with around a 100 hours and have a few volunteer / leadership experiences. On the ASTB I got a 7/7/6 61 which is pretty respectable score. All in all, I've waited around 3 year since I wanted to apply for OCS and not use BDCP( dumb decision, I know). With all the things in mind, I still have a very good chance at a slot. Basically be a well rounded individual and you'll have your shot.[/QUOTE]
How, if at all, did you study for the ASTB? Also, what are PPL and BDCP? All these initialisms.
[QUOTE=Apache249;38007898]How, if at all, did you study for the ASTB? Also, what are PPL and BDCP? All these initialisms.[/QUOTE]
A ppl is a private pilot license. Bdcp stands for bachelor degree completion program; it's kinda like rotc. As for studing for the astb (aviation selection test battery), I'll pm you that info when I get home. If I may ask, what university or college are you planning to go to?
[QUOTE=Fueger;38009480]A ppl is a private pilot license. Bdcp stands for bachelor degree completion program; it's kinda like rotc. As for studing for the astb (aviation selection test battery), I'll pm you that info when I get home. If I may ask, what university or college are you planning to go to?[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm definitely not concrete on which university I would like to attend, as I am only on my junior year in high school. I wanted to go to Stanford, but apparently their aerospace engineering department is not a comprehensive as for example MIT's (Gas Turbine Laboratory [IMG]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-aaaaa.gif[/IMG]). Possibly UC Berkeley or Davis, but I need to do more research first. Then comes the question of acceptance into said universities.
Embry Riddle has a solid Aerospace Engineering program, with them being an Aeronautical University and all. Problem is that it is rather pricey.
Just some quick questions, how would a 17 year old Canadian living in the middle of butt fuck northern no-where get involved in the military? I would like to be somewhere about a year from now after I have been 18 for awhile, and then eventually into the Airforce. Initially wanted to being a pilot but I've put alot of thought into it and I think I would be better off as some kind of mechanic, or technician for avionics ( I think ) but I'd still like to fly someday, just not military. I'm mainly talking about combat jets, but I'm highly interested in helicopters as well. so yeah, I honestly don't know where to start here. I'm in my last year of high school, I live in Alberta, at the very top left corner of the province, my town has about a population of 4-4500 people. It is also surrounded by I think 3 or 4 native reserves.
Friendly people. I'm thinking i'd be best of asking a recruiter these questions, but what I would like to know now is the path to get there, would I be, like say in some kind of basic training for a few months, or what?
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38014199]Embry Riddle has a solid Aerospace Engineering program, with them being an Aeronautical University and all. Problem is that it is rather pricey.[/QUOTE]
Purdue and Ohio State are two other well known options. I went to the Metropolitan State College of Denver which has one of the better programs nationwide; fucking Usafa and Embry Riddle.
[QUOTE=FuDy;38014514]Just some quick questions, how would a 17 year old Canadian living in the middle of butt fuck northern no-where get involved in the military? I would like to be somewhere about a year from now after I have been 18 for awhile, and then eventually into the Airforce. Initially wanted to being a pilot but I've put alot of thought into it and I think I would be better off as some kind of mechanic, or technician for avionics ( I think ) but I'd still like to fly someday, just not military. I'm mainly talking about combat jets, but I'm highly interested in helicopters as well. so yeah, I honestly don't know where to start here. I'm in my last year of high school, I live in Alberta, at the very top left corner of the province, my town has about a population of 4-4500 people. It is also surrounded by I think 3 or 4 native reserves.
Friendly people. I'm thinking i'd be best of asking a recruiter these questions, but what I would like to know now is the path to get there, would I be, like say in some kind of basic training for a few months, or what?[/QUOTE]
Ok first things first. Don't be an avionics tech. They have to deal with the electrical system of the entire aircraft. Their job sucks, don't do it. Becoming a crew chief is actually great, at least for helicopters due to the fact that depending on the model, you may be able to fly in them, as well as repair them. Due to this fact, you are around pilots, and if you make a good impression, pilots are usually willing to help others out on the road to becoming a pilot. I would advise you to speak to a recruiter about this, as they are able to answer more detailed questions about things such as wait times for basic training.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38018513]Ok first things first. Don't be an avionics tech. They have to deal with the electrical system of the entire aircraft. Their job sucks, don't do it. Becoming a crew chief is actually great, at least for helicopters due to the fact that depending on the model, you may be able to fly in them, as well as repair them. Due to this fact, you are around pilots, and if you make a good impression, pilots are usually willing to help others out on the road to becoming a pilot. I would advise you to speak to a recruiter about this, as they are able to answer more detailed questions about things such as wait times for basic training.[/QUOTE]
Hey, being an Avionics tech is brilliant. The amount of training and skills you receive is amazing and really sets you up for civvy street. Then again this is my experience in the British Army and this is your territory :v:
[QUOTE=PyroCF;38019180]Hey, being an Avionics tech is brilliant. The amount of training and skills you receive is amazing and really sets you up for civvy street. Then again this is my experience in the British Army and this is your territory :v:[/QUOTE]
The amount of training and skills you receive are indeed great. However, nothing beats flight pay and the wind in your face.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38019258]The amount of training and skills you receive are indeed great. However, nothing beats flight pay and the wind in your face.[/QUOTE]
We get flight pay when we go on air tests which can be fairly often anyway.
Happy Birthday, US Navy.
[QUOTE=PyroCF;38019351]We get flight pay when we go on air tests which can be fairly often anyway.[/QUOTE]
Damn, that is crazy. The last time armament touched the controls while a pilot was doing an on-ground run up for a mast torque calibration, he thought the pilot told him to pull on the collective. He yanked the collective up as hard as he could and nearly caused something fatal to happen had the pilot not been quick to respond.
So I just got back from the Air Force recruiter, he had to reschedule yesterday due to an impromptu school function. I have to drop some weight, not over just close to borderline, and do some thinking. I also have to fill out an application form. One thing that the recruiter told me that I appreciate is that he won't try to push me through, and didn't make wild promises. Now I need to do a lot of praying and start getting into shape.
[QUOTE=Coppermoss;38019537]So I just got back from the Air Force recruiter, he had to reschedule yesterday due to an impromptu school function. I have to drop some weight, not over just close to borderline, and do some thinking. I also have to fill out an application form. One thing that the recruiter told me that I appreciate is that he won't try to push me through, and didn't make wild promises. Now I need to do a lot of praying and start getting into shape.[/QUOTE]
Good stuff, start doing crossfit exercises and eating less unhealthy food (I am still trying to kick unhealthy food, good luck man) and sticking with a consistent plan.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38019258]The amount of training and skills you receive are indeed great. However, nothing beats flight pay and the wind in your face.[/QUOTE]
Do you get to fly in the Kiowa?
[QUOTE=salmonmarine;38019364]Happy Birthday, US Navy.[/QUOTE]
I wanted to go to our Navy ball but I was working. Oh well. Next year.
[QUOTE=Apache249;38022339]Do you get to fly in the Kiowa?[/QUOTE]
Not really often, but it does happen. If you want flight pay and to fly consistently, Blackhawks or Chinooks are a much better option. I don't actually get flight pay as a Kiowa crew chief.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38026466]Not really often, but it does happen. If you want flight pay and to fly consistently, Blackhawks or Chinooks are a much better option. I don't actually get flight pay as a Kiowa crew chief.[/QUOTE]
Did you get to choose?
So i was chatting with a couple of pilots in the shuttle back to the dorms, and they were discussing when everyone found out what aircraft they were getting at the end of pilot school. Apparently, each person stands up front as their assignment is read to them. They said 2 people got RPAs. A guy said it was pretty much 50/50 what the reaction was when people get RPAs, but that they typically made a beeline for the nearest bar and started putting down shots after they got done.
[QUOTE=Apache249;38027881]Did you get to choose?[/QUOTE]
Well, yeah. The Army lets you choose your MOS. When I pulled the available job codes, 15S (OH-58D Helicopter Repairer) was the only one at that time that came up aviation wise. I picked it because I did not want to wait long after high school to ship to the Army, so I chose it. I waited 8 months before going to BCT, so it was worth it. If you are a bit more patient, I am sure that 15T (UH-60 Helicopter Repairer) and 15U (CH-47 Helicopter Repairer) codes will pop up at some point.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38030611]Well, yeah. The Army lets you choose your MOS. When I pulled the available job codes, 15S (OH-58D Helicopter Repairer) was the only one at that time that came up aviation wise. I picked it because I did not want to wait long after high school to ship to the Army, so I chose it. I waited 8 months before going to BCT, so it was worth it. If you are a bit more patient, I am sure that 15T (UH-60 Helicopter Repairer) and 15U (CH-47 Helicopter Repairer) codes will pop up at some point.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, but no thanks.
Does the Navy let you pick your MOS, or is it like the other two branches excluding the army where it's "we'll try to get you what you want, but if we can't, go move that piece of furniture"
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