[QUOTE=Apache249;38085128]D, right?[/QUOTE]
of course, you'd be a tard to say anything else.
[editline]18th October 2012[/editline]
Just had final parade today, my everything hurts. Also, spoke to a group captain (meaning I acknowledged his existence, then hid), and discovered skating is dangerous and difficult in boots.
The ASVAB is stupid easy. I took it in high school and ended up getting 96 (good I guess?).
And this was when I knew absolutely jack shit about all that mechanical/electrical stuff like 'what's the name of this wrench' etc.
[QUOTE=DarkZero135;37966824]Infantry is awesome. At the end of the day, you work harder and are more disciplined, combat-competent, filthy, sweaty, exhausted, freezing, broiling, hungry than any other regular job in the military. You get to become proficient with a plethora of weapons, mind-boggling communication systems, tactical vehicles, and drilled-into-you tactics that you get to doing instinctively without even thinking about it.
Infantry sucks ass. You are treated like shit by high-level leadership. You enlisted to kick doors and shoot people in the face, but there you are picking moss out of the cracks in the garrison sidewalk because General Fucknut is coming to give a 3 hour speech about whogivesafuck. You embark on an 18-mile roadmarch; 26 miles later, your feet are hamburger and your 16-pound machine gun feels like it weighs 56 pounds. You stand guard at a weapons range in the sub-freezing temps for hours on-end, hours after the range went "cold" (no more firing), on a secure garrison, because you "train like you fight." You show up for formation in the freezing rain; one guy forgot his gloves; everybody has to take their gloves off. You get your long-awaited weekend snatched away for CQ (charge of quarters = barracks desk duty) or battalion/brigade staff duty or courtesy patrol (even though there are such things as MPs) or a work detail or because your leadership fucked up scheduling and the ONLY day open for the weapons range is on the weekend.
You deploy and live in dust-caked tents while a hundred meters away, personnel clerks and finance desk-jockeys who will never leave the FOB are living in air-conditioned housing units. You go on patrol for 6, 8, 10, 12, 24, 48 or more hours at a time, come back to the FOB and get in line for a hot meal; too bad, says the dining hall guard: your uniform is too dirty to come inside. You are moved out to a combat outpost with no running water and no electricity (other than the radios at the command post) and live there for a few weeks at a time; when you're not on-mission, you're in a guard tower, or fixing vehicles, or burning shit in oil-drums, or digging ditches, or stringing razorwire, or filling sandbags, or rolling out on QRF (quick reaction force) to help a patrol who got hit, or you're cleaning your weapon. If you have time to eat, masturbate, sleep, and wipe your asscrack off with babywipes, you do it.
You train for 14 weeks to earn those blue disks, crossed rifles and blue cord (if you're a Marine, you train for 26 weeks, and I don't know what infantry-specific accoutrements USMC infantrymen get, forgive my ignorance, fellow grunts) and train for months or even a year further at your line unit to deploy to combat. You learn how to use almost every gun we have, you learn how to drive (and maybe gun) Humvees, Bradleys, Strykers, MRAPs (unit-dependent) and practice shooting with night-vision and infrared lasers, or night-vision or thermal scopes. You and your buddies give each other IVs with night-vision in the back of a moving Bradley for combat-lifesaver training. You itch for the day you deploy, while the veterans around you roll their eyes, having already seen what you yearn for.
You get there and the enemy hides in civilian clothes; he uses women and children for human shields and spotters for mortar attacks. He kidnaps people from opposite tribes/sects and rapes women and murders children and tortures people with power drills to their kneecaps and cheeks and he cuts the tongue out of a 13 year old boy because the kid chatted with you during a halt on-mission. He kills your friends with sniper rifles and IEDs and you rarely, if ever, even see him face-to-face. You probably won't get the opportunity to kill him; rarely will you get the opportunity to even shoot at him. When you finally get that chance, you won't feel a thing. You won't be happy that he's laying there in front of you, bleeding and moaning on the pavement. You'll see dead people... civilians killed by them, killed accidentally by us, indigenous security forces (cops, military, local hired militia), bad guys... you may see people die right in front of you, within mere meters. At the end of it, you'll be dull. Numb. Desensitized. You'll wish you fired your weapon more.
You'll come home and be unable to relate to the friends and family who clapped you on the back and wished you well when you left those few short years ago. You'll know that you were the very top of the food chain; only special operations direct action teams trained more, did more, saw more, and were in more danger than you were. And your future college classmates will find out you were in the military and say things like, "Oh, my cousin is in the Navy, I think he does something with computers. He went to Iraq; it must've been SCARY." Or, "My buddy Joe joined the Army. Did you know him?" Or, "Did you KILL ANYBODY?" Or, "I support you guys, but I oppose the war. You didn't really believe in what we're doing over there, RIGHT?"
The highs are higher; relationships are more passionate (and more quickly burned out), weekends and block-leave periods are cherished, and days you somehow don't get put on the tower guard roster are things to behold.
The lows are lower; I think I already summed them up.
Caveat: tankers, scouts, combat engineers, and arty guys (the other combat-arms MOS) are cool too. And medics/corpsmen, EOD, dog handlers, psyops, civil affairs, JTACs, and pilots. I don't mean to seem like I'm marginalizing every other military MOS aside from Army/USMC infantry.
The beer I'm drinking right now is one of the best beers I've ever had. Because it's Labatt-Infantry-Blue, bitches.[/QUOTE]
Dude, that is honestly one of the most honest accurate depiction of infantry life and combat. Made me tear up a little bit, no homo, thinking of all the good, bad, and everything in between times I've had in my time in the grunts. The part that really hit home, was when he talked about killing those mother fuckers and not feeling a damn thing. Desensitized. When he goes on to talk about getting home, and friends and family running their mouth, that shit really hit hard. I don't say a damn thing. But anyway, Any idea who the author is?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;37967997]Scariest thing I've seen to date: an O-1 Brony[/QUOTE]
They scare me more than Al Qaeda
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;38103878]They scare me more than Al Qaeda[/QUOTE]
Intel community is full of bronies and furries. Some of them are REALLY awkward, and others are the coolest dudes you would ever meet. This goes for both enlisted and officer tiers. Hating someone for what they are interested in is the lowest of lows IMO. As long as they're doing their job and not being total douche bags or pissing and moaning about their job then they're cool.
When a person joins the military, you have to be prepared to die.
It's a bad mindset to join the military thinking that you have zero chance of being dead.
[QUOTE=GunShard;38104495]When a person joins the military, you have to be prepared to die.
It's a bad mindset to join the military thinking that you have zero chance of being dead.[/QUOTE]
Or if you join the Police, or the Fire Department, or become an EMT, or do Rescue, or become a Neighborhood Watch member.
Life is dangerous, and the sooner people get used to that fact, the sooner they'll start to live freely and do things that they want to do regardless of the risk.
[QUOTE=GunShard;38104495]When a person joins the military, you have to be prepared to die.
It's a bad mindset to join the military thinking that you have zero chance of being dead.[/QUOTE]
Suicide, and car accidents have a higher chance of killing you, statistically speaking than simply joining the military.
It's a bad mindset to leave your house thinking you have a zero chance of getting killed.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;38103878]They scare me more than Al Qaeda[/QUOTE]
Seriously man? I am deployed right now, keeping the queen of battle from getting raped with making sure the air support arrives on time, and you would say something like that? Might want to think a little more before posting.
but you're not an o-1
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38107508]Seriously man? I am deployed right now, keeping the queen of battle from getting raped with making sure the air support arrives on time, and you would say something like that? Might want to think a little more before posting.[/QUOTE]
Test of character: what is your favourite pony and why is it Fluttershy?
Hey heads up for those joining the infantry, it's an awesome life when your doing training and in the field. As soon as you hit recovery prepare for the most utmost broing time of your life. We do nothing cool during garison, seriously I just did 14 hour gate gaurd shifts with the NG and they were allowed to have pistols and I got jack shit.
Just read the speech above me and wanted to add to it as someone in 25th id.
Being the infantry is one legit a cool job, unless your a pvt. We go through 15 weeks of hell (11c) just to hear hooah were infantry we can wear a blue chord fuck the pogs. Yeah we just went 15 weeks with on average 3 hours of sleep a night, lets get the fuck out of Benning.
The day I got to Hawaii can be summed as the most depressing moment of my life. I joined a unit that has no fucking idea what training should be like and can be considered as childish, we were flown to Korea for 45 days of hooah hooah training that Was planned on a day by day basis and our CO would punish us by giving us more rounds to shoot just so we couldnt get warm chow that night. The days off that were planned in advance where taken away so we could learn a differnt MOS like fister combat engineer even 92G was a regular duty for us at that point all the while POGS would whine about their 3 hours on the range as we came back from a week sitting on a mortar point playing war so 3 star generals could rub their dicks.
When we got back we havn't had half the recovery days due to shitty details like Gate Gaurd for every minor base and now were shipping to bellows to do more hooah hooah training. Fucking great I've had less than a month with my wife before going back out great. ofc it's just the infantry going. as always, we don't get the days off, because were the pride of every fucking officer.
Lets get to how the first few weeks of getting to your unit will be. Front leaning rest, bear crawls, being woken up at 3am as your team leader rings you to invite you to the company for more push ups. In the short time i've had my military career I can't help but hate how hazing is cracked down on when I see new pvts being treated like human beings and remebering what the real army was about.
This probably isnt the best written speech but I've had gate gaurd+company details have been up for 20 hours and feel dead.
Show this rant to a recruiter and see what he say's plesae.
[QUOTE=Ccharlton;38109386]Hey heads up for those joining the infantry, it's an awesome life when your doing training and in the field. As soon as you hit recovery prepare for the most utmost broing time of your life. We do nothing cool during garison, seriously I just did 14 hour gate gaurd shifts with the NG and they were allowed to have pistols and I got jack shit.
Just read the speech above me and wanted to add to it as someone in 25th id.
Being the infantry is one legit a cool job, unless your a pvt. We go through 15 weeks of hell (11c) just to hear hooah were infantry we can wear a blue chord fuck the pogs. Yeah we just went 15 weeks with on average 3 hours of sleep a night, lets get the fuck out of Benning.
The day I got to Hawaii can be summed as the most depressing moment of my life. I joined a unit that has no fucking idea what training should be like and can be considered as childish, we were flown to Korea for 45 days of hooah hooah training that Was planned on a day by day basis and our CO would punish us by giving us more rounds to shoot just so we couldnt get warm chow that night. The days off that were planned in advance where taken away so we could learn a differnt MOS like fister combat engineer even 92G was a regular duty for us at that point all the while POGS would whine about their 3 hours on the range as we came back from a week sitting on a mortar point playing war so 3 star generals could rub their dicks.
When we got back we havn't had half the recovery days due to shitty details like Gate Gaurd for every minor base and now were shipping to bellows to do more hooah hooah training. Fucking great I've had less than a month with my wife before going back out great. ofc it's just the infantry going. as always, we don't get the days off, because were the pride of every fucking officer.
Lets get to how the first few weeks of getting to your unit will be. Front leaning rest, bear crawls, being woken up at 3am as your team leader rings you to invite you to the company for more push ups. In the short time i've had my military career I can't help but hate how hazing is cracked down on when I see new pvts being treated like human beings and remebering what the real army was about.
This probably isnt the best written speech but I've had gate gaurd+company details have been up for 20 hours and feel dead.
Show this rant to a recruiter and see what he say's plesae.[/QUOTE]
I know your pain bud. Hazing is pretty much been cracked down. I remember when I was a fresh PFC, and mother fuckers got their face clocked for talking back. Getting smoked in the pit, Gas mask squats with mattresses in the showers with bleach hot water, Yelling 'Aye aye Lance Corporal' at the top of your lungs; Hell, we didn't even 'rate' to have hair. Being woken up at 3 am to go run around in the backyard. One time my bud forgot a piece of gear for inspection, so our senior said to him, 'Oh, I think I saw it on the top of that mountain in the backyard.' So he had to sprint up there and run back down. Constantly cleaning, clean this, clean that, the trim on at the ceiling has dust on it-clean the whole fucking room again, I'll be back at 0200 to inspect. Clean the whole fuckin barracks, the general is supposed to be on base. Doesn't show. Ever. The list goes on. Luckily, after your first deployment, you relinquish the 'boot' status, and instead your are on the opposite side-training the new guys.
Mothers of America may not appreciate the hazing, but it's the fuckin grunts, not the damn YMCA. It's to teach one how to operate effectively and get accommodated to the stress, noise, and physical rigors of combat. To pay attention to detail, as it may save your life or your buddies. In my opinion, in a decade or so, while technology may improve to help us kill and survive better, we will be alot softer mentally. If we go into any more wars, the PTSD statistic will rise. They say pain retains-It's been proven numerous times. And I say, if you can't handle it, don't sign up for it. Sure enough, guys who can't handle it injure themselves, claim medical problems, or invent lies to get out of the grunts.
Oh and welcome to Hawaii. Hope you like beaches.
If you're choosing the Infantry, get used to getting the shit hazed/smoked out of you. I'm pretty sure I went a whole 2 months in my unit before I went a full day without sprinting/bear crawling the the Battalion ropes and back. in Infantry school I asked a Drill Sgt. From another company on a detail if he had any suggestions for a Private going to Fort Campbell. (He had a 101st patch so I thought it was a clever idea to ask for some reason. His reply was, "don't go..they hate privates there". I thought basic training was my wakeup call in life. 1 week into being with 1st Bct, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) and I was already praying to every diety out there that I could go back to basic training for just a day..
Oh and did I mention it's a constant pissing contest? Even worse than all those piss fetish porn videos.
Seriously, mother fuckers from all ranks will mean mug each other. The veterans of combat will be up on the high horse. If you haven't been on a combat deployment, you are automatically one step down on the hierarchy of piss. Sometimes, other lowly privates will discuss with one another about who's been to combat and who hasn't. If your senior hasn't been to combat, then they lose some face value. And then throw in the mixed bag of NCO new joiness thrown into units and you get so much drama, that it would make Desperate House Wives look like Sesame street.
Kinda sad, because once you get out in the civvy world, nobody gives two shits. Some fat old hag who couldn't lift a finger from her donut to save her life may be your boss. At least your life doesn't depend on her. Sometimes I see military guys at home walking around all high and mighty at home, but I just smile. I can't wait to see once they get out, and they are just another average joe.
Also, don't forget the cherry rock
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[QUOTE=WubWubWompWomp;38109297]Test of character: what is your favourite pony and why is it Fluttershy?[/QUOTE]
Spitfire. I like the character design and she is aviation. A+ in my book.
[editline]20th October 2012[/editline]
All these infantry stories are making me super glad that I joined Aviation.
Small question this time.
What attitude should one have at basic? (marines)
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38112233]Small question this time.
What attitude should one have at basic? (marines)[/QUOTE]
At any basic training, Marine Boot Camp in this case, you should have an attitude of never quitting. Ever. Do not quit. Also, make sure you know your place. You will be set up for failure sometimes just to see how resilient you are. Do not question your instructors, they do what they do for a reason. Also, don't be a buddy fucker.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38112233]Small question this time.
What attitude should one have at basic? (marines)[/QUOTE]
Go in there ready to do whatever the fuck you are told and just listen.
edit: Damn Skeea, never knew you were a ninja.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38112274] Also, don't be a buddy fucker.[/QUOTE]
I've heard of this term before, what does it mean?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38112341]I've heard of this term before, what does it mean?[/QUOTE]
It means doing things that will screw your buddies over intentionally for your own personal gain.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38112402]It means doing things that will screw your buddies over intentionally for your own personal gain.[/QUOTE]
Ah.
Something tells me these guys are an issue still?
Headed out to the field portion of SERE today, wont be back till friday :D....then i get beat up in resistance training D:
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38112418]Ah.
Something tells me these guys are an issue still?[/QUOTE]
There are people in any basic training that will do this. It is a mark of that person's character. They aren't a huge issue in regular units because we don't tolerate that shit, but they do exist.
[editline]20th October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=capgun;38112475]Headed out to the field portion of SERE today, wont be back till friday :D....then i get beat up in resistance training D:[/QUOTE]
That shit sucks. Fear the bearded man...
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38112233]Small question this time.
What attitude should one have at basic? (marines)[/QUOTE]
shit will suck. But yeah, like SKEEA mentioned, don't give up, and just keep telling yourself it's all a game. Take things day by day, chow to chow. Just make it to the next meal time. For me, it helped to take it meal to meal. even though you get rushed through meals, it's kind of a respite. A little break.
Is it true they still chew you out Ermy style or have they softened it a bit.
I'm fairly certain they're still pretty rough in the Marines. You'll get used to it incredibly fast and find yourself caught up in being busy and just have all the screaming turn into background noise after a while. However, I'm in the Army, and our standard for discipline only was really shown and feared a few rare days. Also any of you guys looking for an MOS, if you're looking into EOD and have any questions about basic prep, I'd be hyped to help you out. Still going strong, hitting the harder training divisions within a week so hopefully I'll still get to say that by April. Also SKEEA! How ya doin man?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38115910]Is it true they still chew you out Ermy style or have they softened it a bit.[/QUOTE]
I believe they do. The first time it happened to me I was scared shitless. but after awhile, it becomes background noise like Scrub said. You get used to it. Even with 4 of them screaming in your face, you learn to kinda zone it all out. Thick skin.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38112225]Spitfire. I like the character design and she is aviation. A+ in my book.
[editline]20th October 2012[/editline]
All these infantry stories are making me super glad that I joined Aviation.[/QUOTE]
Disgusting.
[editline]21st October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38112341]I've heard of this term before, what does it mean?[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what a blue falcon would say.
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