[QUOTE=SKEEA;39538503]It is 6 years after going through flight school, which is two two years in and of itself. It would be entirely accurate to say that it is 8 years. Being an Army warrant officer is a pretty sweet gig. Your job is to fly. Warrant officers are not typical commissioned officers, in that they do not go on a staff tour, and they do not have a command. You also do not need a college degree to become one. I am submitting my application to be a warrant officer once I get back to the states myself. Army warrants are some of the coolest people in the military.[/QUOTE]
I've heard that. My father actually recommended it(used to be an MP in the late 80's, early 90's). I still am getting a college degree no matter what, kinda needed to be an AE.
I also considered being an AE for the AF, but heard its mostly project managing and not actual engineering
[QUOTE=SKEEA;39537517]Clearly you have never heard of or worn the Army Aircrew Combat Uniform. A2CU's are the best uniform in the armed forces, hands down.[/QUOTE]
I don't know. Marine dress uniforms look real slick.
How 'bout dem blues mmmhmm.
[QUOTE=camaroni;39539351]I don't know. Marine dress uniforms look real slick.[/QUOTE]
They do at that, but you simply cannot beat the A2CU in terms of utility and comfort.
Hey how hard or competitive is it to become a load master or "door gunner" in the U.S military. Here in Australia it's apparently a pretty competitive position to get and a long waiting list.
[QUOTE=-n3o-;39539464]Hey how hard or competitive is it to become a load master or "door gunner" in the U.S military. Here in Australia it's apparently a pretty competitive position to get and a long waiting list.[/QUOTE]
Not quite sure about being a loadmaster, but door gunner varies based on the branch. In the Army, door gunners are mostly the crew chiefs of the helicopter, but anyone can be a door gunner. I could sign up to be one in addition to my current duties, but they rarely ever use anyone else but the normal crew chiefs.
I took a practice AFOQRT and got a 74 on the Pilot section. Is that good?
(with no prior studying or preparation and done late at night with only 5 hours of sleep from the last night)
[QUOTE=paindoc;39539616]I took a practice AFOQRT and got a 74 on the Pilot section. Is that good?
(with no prior studying or preparation and done late at night with only 5 hours of sleep from the last night)[/QUOTE]
You are going to have to ask an Air Force pilot that man. I only know the scores for the Army's test, the SIFT.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;39539647]You are going to have to ask an Air Force pilot that man. I only know the scores for the Army's test, the SIFT.[/QUOTE]
Looking at some average data collected by a test prep site, I'm slightly below average. Which is good in my opinion, since with some practice I can raise that score a fair amount I think
[url]http://www.wantscheck.com/PilotSlotResources/PilotSlotStats/tabid/59/Default.aspx[/url]
[QUOTE=-n3o-;39539464]Hey how hard or competitive is it to become a load master or "door gunner" in the U.S military. Here in Australia it's apparently a pretty competitive position to get and a long waiting list.[/QUOTE]
At least in the air force, neither are particularly competitive, there are just some pretty stringent requirements health wise. I've heard rumors of them cutting loadmasters off for a while, since they brought in an absolute fuck ton of them in the last fiscal year(there are people here that dont start their LIQ class until May). But we're always critically manned, so I honestly doubt that. As far as 'door gunners', there's 2 real AFSCs that would cover that, The Aerial Gunner and the Flight Engineer. I'm pretty sure they don't take any more Aerial Gunner AFSCs, since they've been merged into some sort of jack of all trades AFSC for AFSOC. Engineer may be the same, seeing as the 130 doesnt need them with the new J models, and the previously mentioned hybrid afsc taking up a lot of their job for the helos.
Oh, and commenting on the previous uniform discussion, the flight suit(or flight duty uniform) is pretty damn glorious
[QUOTE=capgun;39539859]At least in the air force, neither are particularly competitive, there are just some pretty stringent requirements health wise. I've heard rumors of them cutting loadmasters off for a while, since they brought in an absolute fuck ton of them in the last fiscal year(there are people here that dont start their LIQ class until May). But we're always critically manned, so I honestly doubt that. As far as 'door gunners', there's 2 real AFSCs that would cover that, The Aerial Gunner and the Flight Engineer. I'm pretty sure they don't take any more Aerial Gunner AFSCs, since they've been merged into some sort of jack of all trades AFSC for AFSOC. Engineer may be the same, seeing as the 130 doesnt need them with the new J models, and the previously mentioned hybrid afsc taking up a lot of their job for the helos.
Oh, and commenting on the previous uniform discussion, the flight suit(or flight duty uniform) is pretty damn glorious[/QUOTE]
Too easy, was wondering about it heard it was a pretty enjoyable job or position. Also are you in the ADF or US?
[QUOTE=-n3o-;39540073]Too easy, was wondering about it heard it was a pretty enjoyable job or position. Also are you in the ADF or US?[/QUOTE]
US, currently in the last bit of my Loadmaster tech school
[QUOTE=capgun;39540402]US, currently in the last bit of my Loadmaster tech school[/QUOTE]
Damn dude how long is your tech school?
[editline]10FEB[/editline]
Also
[QUOTE=SKEEA;39539366]They do at that, but you simply cannot beat the A2CU in terms of utility and comfort.[/QUOTE]
ABU "wizard sleeves" master race!
Actually using my currently abysmal scores on the practice AFOQRT for which I bombed because of sleep issues for some and bouncing screens in the car for others, I got an 85 approximately on my Pilot composite score. Which is 1% below average for 608 Air Force Pilots.
I can do it!
Besides, flying is in my blood. My Grandfather was a Colonel in the Air Force, served for 30 years and flew KC-135's. His father was a mechanic for an airline and flew in his spare time, and his brother(my great uncle) was a P47 pilot in WW2. Further back the men mostly served in the Army and such. And on the other side(my dad's) there are at least 4-6 aircraft mechanics. Only one of which is still alive :c
[QUOTE=l33tkill;39540487]Damn dude how long is your tech school?
[editline]10FEB[/editline]
Also
ABU "wizard sleeves" master race![/QUOTE]
Fucking forever. This last bit is my qualification training, LIQ and LMQ, but is still basically tech school, MTLs, monthly PT tests and all.. Total of about 6 months left.
[QUOTE=l33tkill;39540487]ABU "wizard sleeves" master race![/QUOTE]
Pfft. A2CU has zippered pockets and zippered fly. It is also fire resistant. It has a ton of pockets, seriously. It is amazing. It is also softer than normal uniforms, and it is comfy. Oh yeah, and they are DXable. Bam.
damn son
Just spent the morning at ADF recruitment.
After the interview process I decided that I'm 100% not right for the lifestyle. It's a shame because the Supply Coordinator job could have really boost my career and I'm certain I would have been great at it.
I have no regrets about going though, the interview/testing/medical process was fascinating. Kind of surprising to see so many kids accompanied by their parents.
[QUOTE=Damoman;39557180]Just spent the morning at ADF recruitment.
After the interview process I am 100% not right for the lifestyle. It's a shame because the Supply Coordinator job could have really boost my career and I'm certain I would have been great at it.
I have no regrets about going though, the interview/testing/medical process was fascinating. Kind of surprising to see so many kids accompanied by their parents.[/QUOTE]
Was this your YOU session or Assessment day?
[QUOTE=-n3o-;39557247]Was this your YOU session or Assessment day?[/QUOTE]
Just the YOU session, not the assessment.
My neighbour is a supply coordinator and heartily recommend I try for it. So, hopefuly he'll shout out the next time his department hires in a capacity.
Apparently the place used to be crawling with civilian contractors.
[QUOTE=Damoman;39557371]Just the YOU session, not the assessment.
My neighbour is a supply coordinator and heartily recommend I try for it. So, hopefuly he'll shout out the next time his department hires in a capacity.
Apparently the place used to be crawling with civilian contractors.[/QUOTE]
Cool, I have my Assessment day on the 1st of March. But yeah very hard lifestyle, also I never really saw any kids with their parents only one.
Great! Hope your Assessment goes well and you get the position you're seeking.
So I'v decided I'm doing ROTC. I am debating between whether or not I want to push for a pilot slot or not.
How are my chances so far?
3.6 Cumulative GPA.
In Pre-Calc this year, Calc next year. Taking AP Physics, APUSH, AP Language, and took and passed AP World last year.
[QUOTE=paindoc;39558746]So I'v decided I'm doing ROTC. I am debating between whether or not I want to push for a pilot slot or not.
How are my chances so far?
3.6 Cumulative GPA.
In Pre-Calc this year, Calc next year. Taking AP Physics, APUSH, AP Language, and took and passed AP World last year.[/QUOTE]
You have to see if you're not too tall to fit in the cockpit in the first place. Academically you need to get that magic number '4'
I should also warn you that if you want to be some hot-shot, topgun (Navy), thunderbird fighter pilot you're going to be put up with hundreds if not thousands of other aspiring minds in the US that want to fly a 500 million-dollar craft. Slots like those are incredibly competitive in ROTC-land. I jumped from the Reserves into ROTC on an Active Duty Scholarship and I have to maintain 3.5 or higher and keep a consistent 270+ on record APFT if I ever have a chance on getting my Infantry MOS again. Combat MOS's and those 'glorious' ones are pretty competitive.
Another thing to look into would be Street to Seat for the Army, and be a Warrant Officer. It is pretty competitive as well, but you can fulfill all of the requirements while continuing with whatever you are doing. Choices, choices.
So I'm in the National Guard now and shipping to basic on March 12th. I'm wondering how hard a security clearance will be to get after I get out of basic. I scored a 74 on my ASVAB, good enough line scores to get pretty much any job I was looking at. But I wasn't able to get a security clearance because of shit I did in middle school. Wyoming doesn't really offer many good jobs without a clearance so I just went with a 12 November position, and plan switch to another MOS when able.
[QUOTE=Priori;39563705]So I'm in the National Guard now and shipping to basic on March 12th. I'm wondering how hard a security clearance will be to get after I get out of basic. I scored a 74 on my ASVAB, good enough line scores to get pretty much any job I was looking at. But I wasn't able to get a security clearance because of shit I did in middle school. Wyoming doesn't really offer many good jobs without a clearance so I just went with a 12 November position, and plan switch to another MOS when able.[/QUOTE]
Usually you start getting your security clearance in basic, then it's usually after when it gets approved. TS I assume?
[QUOTE=l33tkill;39565528]Usually you start getting your security clearance in basic, then it's usually after when it gets approved. TS I assume?[/QUOTE]
I only need a secret clearance for any of the jobs I wanted to do. I was told by recruiter that it might take a good while before I can get cleared so I can switch my mos, but I took it with a grain of salt because he has been wrong about things before.
[QUOTE=Priori;39565873]I only need a secret clearance for any of the jobs I wanted to do. I was told by recruiter that it might take a good while before I can get cleared so I can switch my mos, but I took it with a grain of salt because he has been wrong about things before.[/QUOTE]
Fuck I thought everyone got that coming in. Well, as long as you didn't kill anyone in Middle School then you should be fine honestly.
My father keeps telling me I'm disillusioned about ROTC. I think it will be mildly enjoyable. I want to be in the armed services, but he never did. He was Army Enlisted and always complains about how much he hates it. Doubt has started to creep into my decisions; I know I want to, but what if I'm not right for it?
Lastly, I don't expect to easily acquire a fighter slot.
I've been thinking about what I would choose based on how aircraft assignment works at flight training;
1. A-10C
2. Any fighter
3. C-17
4. C-5
5. KC-135
6. Pavehawk
7. E-3 Sentry
8. HC-130 (search and rescue)
9. Anything but those silly turboprop planes(excepting 130's)
I honestly see few aircraft I wouldn't want to fly off this list [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_United_States_military_aircraft#Air_Force[/url]
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