[QUOTE=gasmaskalt;16455113]Yeah, I definitely agree on that. If you're not fully sure and ready to have a baby then don't. I know that it happens a lot, and it's a shame. There is always an option for adoption, but if you are a mature human being you should be able to take responsibility for your actions and realize that you have created something that cannot be avoided. You should be able to love it because you made it, and if you can't do that then you are obviously messed up. (No offense to anyone.)[/QUOTE]
But even if such a person loved their child, what if they just couldn't handle parenthood and therefore was not giving the child what they need. They may love the child itself but despise being a parent, if that makes sense, and I think it still can have negative effects on both people. They won't fulfill their role as mother/father naturally, and I still think that it's not really fair on a child to have parent who isn't anything but devoted to them. The parent will be living an unhappy life and that will rub off on the baby. Therefore I'll stand by my views that children should only be for those who are certain that it's what they want rather than just filling out something that's expected out of them from life.
[QUOTE=xXDictatorXx;16456762]But even if such a person loved their child, what if they just couldn't handle parenthood and therefore was not giving the child what they need. They may love the child itself but despise being a parent, if that makes sense, and I think it still can have negative effects on both people. They won't fulfill their role as mother/father naturally, and I still think that it's not really fair on a child to have parent who isn't anything but devoted to them. The parent will be living an unhappy life and that will rub off on the baby. Therefore I'll stand by my views that children should only be for those who are certain that it's what they want rather than just filling out something that's expected out of them from life.[/QUOTE]
I agree with that view totally. Truthly, my mom is that way where it's hard for her to be a parent because she has a lot of problems, but I know she loves me and I love her.
My Fursona is a wolf.
[QUOTE=Audae;16456848]My Fursona is a wolf.[/QUOTE]
Then get out you spamming retard.
I dont really want kids, but I can see why some people want children. The only the thing that grinds my gears are when people get like 2 kids and then after 10 years they get another one. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAAAAT??!?!?!
[QUOTE=NachoPiggy;16458641][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSJEBOrEzE4[/media][/QUOTE]
oh what the fuck is that.
When I date people I make it clear that I don't want kids till I have done everything in life that I want to do. I weed out a lot of girls that way and I think it's a good thing. I find the right ones :)
[QUOTE=Nyaos;16459667]When I date people I make it clear that I don't want kids till I have done everything in life that I want to do. I weed out a lot of girls that way and I think it's a good thing. I find the right ones :)[/QUOTE]
Good luck doing everything you want in life, it's harder than it sounds.
[QUOTE=LSK;16459696]Good luck doing everything you want in life, it's harder than it sounds.[/QUOTE]
I can imagine, I mean more like when I am satisfied at where I am at. I think once you have kids it's incredibly difficult to keep doing the things you want to do.
Jorp
They are even more annoying when they grow up man, you just wanna kill them.
[QUOTE=Zeddy;16450159]Damn I love these discussions.
Lets get one thing straight so people have a harder time trying to pull bullshit excuses on me.
[highlight]I AM GREEDY. I AM SELFISH. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE REST OF HUMANITY. I ONLY CARE ABOUT MYSELF AND THE FEW PEOPLE WITH SOME REAL EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO ME.[/highlight]
Go ahead, call me a heartless bastard. Call me an evil prick. I don't give a damn. Because while you're out being self-righteous idiots, I'm going to be sitting around happily not bothering with some fucking task that ultimately contributes nothing of real value to me. A lover contributes real emotions and enjoyable times for your entire life. Friends contribute good times and entertainment for long periods of times, and possibly your whole life. Babies can occasionally contribute some interesting times or a few benefits but the vast majority will give you hell. You can choose your friends and you can choose your lover, but you can't choose your kids. To put it in perspective, lets play some internet slots [url]http://www.internetslots.org/[/url]. Now, tell me how often you hit a jackpot. Probably not very often. A person may eventually hit one, but how many times do you have to go through fuck up after fuck up, just to finally get lucky and get that one miracle?
I don't care about continuing my bloodline. Once I'm dead and gone, I couldn't care if the whole damned planet blew the fuck up unless they could develop a way to bring me back without any repercussions to myself. What the fuck difference does it make to me? 99.99% of you out there I DON'T KNOW OR GIVE A DAMN ABOUT. What happens to you makes no difference to me so long as it doesn't hurt me in some way. In the 18+ years I spend taking care of a child, playing the slot machine of life, hoping to hit that jackpot, I could be bettering my own life. While it is still hard to predict what will happen in my life, I at least have a lot more control over what happens than I do with some little fuckhead.
Also, the "Its instinct to breed." argument is perhaps the most idiotic and asinine one of them all. The base instinct of all life is to breed. But you know what happens? WE EVOLVE PAST IT. The more intelligent you are, the less reliant on instinct you are because you no longer need them to live and can function beyond it. So if you are going on instinct, you are pretty fucking stupid. Pure and simple. You can't think beyond the basic programming in your subconscious. You never developed mentally enough to actually be able to work independently. So I suppose I could make the argument that those of you saying you should like and/or have babies are just trying to obscure the fact that you are brain-dead shitheads.
Also, just so there is at least ONE "light" side in this. I spend 10 years taking care of and raising who goes on to win a small little marathon to raise money for his school instead of working and training and exercising. Congratulation, little Billy Shitpants just raised $107 for his school. Or, I spend 10 years without the kid and exercise and train and work since I have the time and go on the win a major marathon to raise money for some major cause such as finding a cure for diabetes or breast cancer or global poverty. Hey, I just raised hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of dollars to fund a far reaching and truly beneficial project that could change the world and make the lives of everyone better. Seems like the latter is a lot more productive and better for the human race than the primary.[/QUOTE]
I love you
I don't hate babies. I just don't think they're cute, and I'm not comfortable around them.
ITT, people who will D'AWWWWWWWW when they have their first kid, despite what they say.
All I know is that people say when they became parents, it changed them forever, in a good way. As my mother said, there's an emotional connection to your children you cannot get with anyone else and another female friend of mine told me "think about it, you can shape that child's life and you are solely responsible for his or her well being. It's the biggest responsibility any human can undertake."
[QUOTE=Kapn;16429153]I know I can't be the only one...
I just don't understand why anyone would ever want to have kids. Looking at it logically there are absolutely no pros to it. Your significant other blows up to the size of a beach ball and is sick/miserable/hormonal for almost a year. Holy shit count me out already. All of the baby loving freak shows spend forever berating you with the dumbest questions. After all that though you've got to drive to the hospital and she pops the thing out and it is UGLY. I can't understand how anyone can think infants/babies are cute...
It spends the first couple of years crying, shitting, eating, and sleeping. Making your life a living hell... You can't hang out with people, you can't sleep, and you can't have sex ; All because there's this monster crying for you to pay attention to it in the background every 5 minutes. Then once it starts aging - you've got to throw more money at it. Keep clothing it, feeding it, keeping it happy, buying it what it wants, and what do you get in return? Not a damn thing. It gets to it's teen years and it wants more. It wants a phone, a computer, a car, etc. Now why would anyone go through all that? I have not had one person claiming to have a good reason, give me one that makes sense. Please - humor me.[/QUOTE]
The reason is because it is something that makes you worth while. You die knowing you contributed something to the world, even if it's a mediocre man or woman who's your child. And you know the you did your best, and hopefully improved your son or daughter's life in comparison to yours. That's why people have babies.
[QUOTE=Jawalt;16463758]The reason is because it is something that makes you worth while. You die knowing you contributed something to the world, even if it's a mediocre man or woman who's your child. And you know the you did your best, and hopefully improved your son or daughter's life in comparison to yours. That's why people have babies.[/QUOTE]
That's [b]A[/b] reason people have babies. The list goes on, each person has their own unique reason to have, or to not have a baby. It just depends.
[QUOTE=Zeddy;16450159]Damn I love these discussions.
Lets get one thing straight so people have a harder time trying to pull bullshit excuses on me.
[highlight]I AM GREEDY. I AM SELFISH. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE REST OF HUMANITY. I ONLY CARE ABOUT MYSELF AND THE FEW PEOPLE WITH SOME REAL EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO ME.[/highlight]
Go ahead, call me a heartless bastard. Call me an evil prick. I don't give a damn. Because while you're out being self-righteous idiots, I'm going to be sitting around happily not bothering with some fucking task that ultimately contributes nothing of real value to me. A lover contributes real emotions and enjoyable times for your entire life. Friends contribute good times and entertainment for long periods of times, and possibly your whole life. Babies can occasionally contribute some interesting times or a few benefits but the vast majority will give you hell. You can choose your friends and you can choose your lover, but you can't choose your kids. To put it in perspective, lets play some internet slots [url]http://www.internetslots.org/[/url]. Now, tell me how often you hit a jackpot. Probably not very often. A person may eventually hit one, but how many times do you have to go through fuck up after fuck up, just to finally get lucky and get that one miracle?
I don't care about continuing my bloodline. Once I'm dead and gone, I couldn't care if the whole damned planet blew the fuck up unless they could develop a way to bring me back without any repercussions to myself. What the fuck difference does it make to me? 99.99% of you out there I DON'T KNOW OR GIVE A DAMN ABOUT. What happens to you makes no difference to me so long as it doesn't hurt me in some way. In the 18+ years I spend taking care of a child, playing the slot machine of life, hoping to hit that jackpot, I could be bettering my own life. While it is still hard to predict what will happen in my life, I at least have a lot more control over what happens than I do with some little fuckhead.
Also, the "Its instinct to breed." argument is perhaps the most idiotic and asinine one of them all. The base instinct of all life is to breed. But you know what happens? WE EVOLVE PAST IT. The more intelligent you are, the less reliant on instinct you are because you no longer need them to live and can function beyond it. So if you are going on instinct, you are pretty fucking stupid. Pure and simple. You can't think beyond the basic programming in your subconscious. You never developed mentally enough to actually be able to work independently. So I suppose I could make the argument that those of you saying you should like and/or have babies are just trying to obscure the fact that you are brain-dead shitheads.
Also, just so there is at least ONE "light" side in this. I spend 10 years taking care of and raising who goes on to win a small little marathon to raise money for his school instead of working and training and exercising. Congratulation, little Billy Shitpants just raised $107 for his school. Or, I spend 10 years without the kid and exercise and train and work since I have the time and go on the win a major marathon to raise money for some major cause such as finding a cure for diabetes or breast cancer or global poverty. Hey, I just raised hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of dollars to fund a far reaching and truly beneficial project that could change the world and make the lives of everyone better. Seems like the latter is a lot more productive and better for the human race than the primary.[/QUOTE]
Hurf Durf I are egoceantric and greedy and evoleved above my instinkts and awesom.
People make babies because (most of the time) it makes them happy in the long run. Call it primal and retarded all you want, but instincts can sometimes have a big and positive impact on our happiness. Hell if we're going to go by the "lol instikts are stoopid" argument, then why even bother finding someone to love? It's only hormones after all, right? Why even socialize with other people? That's such an instinctish thing to do.
Feel free to post again in a thread like this once you grow up.
While I don't mind babies as such I hate it when people drag them to places they are far to young to understand and will never remember when they are older, and then they proceed to cry their eyes out, and while most parents are nice enough to try and calm them down or take them elsewhere till they do, there are the few parents that insist on dragging the baby round, making them cry even harder
examples of where this has happened to me:
parks
museums
swimming pools
hotels
my god babies are one of the few things that make me rage so quickly i want to walk over to them and punch their face out the back of their under developed skull some times
at least i'm not the only one that dislike's babies
babbys
[QUOTE=Zeddy;16450159]Damn I love these discussions.
Lets get one thing straight so people have a harder time trying to pull bullshit excuses on me.
[highlight]I AM GREEDY. I AM SELFISH. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE REST OF HUMANITY. I ONLY CARE ABOUT MYSELF AND THE FEW PEOPLE WITH SOME REAL EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO ME.[/highlight]
Go ahead, call me a heartless bastard. Call me an evil prick. I don't give a damn. Because while you're out being self-righteous idiots, I'm going to be sitting around happily not bothering with some fucking task that ultimately contributes nothing of real value to me. A lover contributes real emotions and enjoyable times for your entire life. Friends contribute good times and entertainment for long periods of times, and possibly your whole life. Babies can occasionally contribute some interesting times or a few benefits but the vast majority will give you hell. You can choose your friends and you can choose your lover, but you can't choose your kids. To put it in perspective, lets play some internet slots [url]http://www.internetslots.org/[/url]. Now, tell me how often you hit a jackpot. Probably not very often. A person may eventually hit one, but how many times do you have to go through fuck up after fuck up, just to finally get lucky and get that one miracle?
I don't care about continuing my bloodline. Once I'm dead and gone, I couldn't care if the whole damned planet blew the fuck up unless they could develop a way to bring me back without any repercussions to myself. What the fuck difference does it make to me? 99.99% of you out there I DON'T KNOW OR GIVE A DAMN ABOUT. What happens to you makes no difference to me so long as it doesn't hurt me in some way. In the 18+ years I spend taking care of a child, playing the slot machine of life, hoping to hit that jackpot, I could be bettering my own life. While it is still hard to predict what will happen in my life, I at least have a lot more control over what happens than I do with some little fuckhead.
Also, the "Its instinct to breed." argument is perhaps the most idiotic and asinine one of them all. The base instinct of all life is to breed. But you know what happens? WE EVOLVE PAST IT. The more intelligent you are, the less reliant on instinct you are because you no longer need them to live and can function beyond it. So if you are going on instinct, you are pretty fucking stupid. Pure and simple. You can't think beyond the basic programming in your subconscious. You never developed mentally enough to actually be able to work independently. So I suppose I could make the argument that those of you saying you should like and/or have babies are just trying to obscure the fact that you are brain-dead shitheads.
Also, just so there is at least ONE "light" side in this. I spend 10 years taking care of and raising who goes on to win a small little marathon to raise money for his school instead of working and training and exercising. Congratulation, little Billy Shitpants just raised $107 for his school. Or, I spend 10 years without the kid and exercise and train and work since I have the time and go on the win a major marathon to raise money for some major cause such as finding a cure for diabetes or breast cancer or global poverty. Hey, I just raised hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of dollars to fund a far reaching and truly beneficial project that could change the world and make the lives of everyone better. Seems like the latter is a lot more productive and better for the human race than the primary.[/QUOTE]
There we fucking have it!
No one likes babies, but everyone likes sex, and sometimes accidents happen.
[QUOTE=Street_Wolf;16463702]ITT, people who will D'AWWWWWWWW when they have their first kid, despite what they say.[/QUOTE]
ill be punching its little cabbageface in as soon as i see it
always best to start early
Fuck babies grraawwww
I want to have a baby because:
1. I want Save the Human Race
2. I like Babies.
and 3. Space Needs more Babies.
I want to throw them out a window whenever I hear them cry for attention.
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