[QUOTE=Kapn;16429238]You're missing the point - I don't. I don't want to have kids. There are plenty of people who also do not want to...[/QUOTE]
then don't have a kid no one is stopping you
[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16429978]then don't have a kid no one is stopping you[/QUOTE]
First post, reread it.
I'm asking why people like you feel the need to infest the world with them.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16429952]Read the first post. I'm asking why you would want to have kids not why we put up with them.
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people OTHER THAN YOU have different opinions.
lurn2beopenminded
[QUOTE=Kapn;16429927]Trust me - we hear about baby shit ALL the time. I've seen what it's like to raise a kid and I don't want any part of it. We have had a lot of experience from morons we know who don't know what birth control is.[/QUOTE]
Yes! Finally! God damn! That took ages for you to bring up!!!!
[B]I've seen what it's like to raise a kid and I don't want any part of it.[/B]
That's where your logic has a hole. You've seen only one side of the coin. People like to talk about, "oh my god, liek i woke up at 3:50 to feed mah babby, so annoying", but they tend to keep the good times to themselves.
Open your eyes.
Because sex/reproduction is a basic urge?
oh wait you just joined and are a troll
[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16429992]people OTHER THAN YOU have different opinions.
lurn2beopenminded[/QUOTE]
I know that you dolt, I'm recognizing the fact that other people have different opinions. I want to know the reason though - which nobody has given me yet.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16429988]First post, reread it.
I'm asking why people like you feel the need to infest the world with them.[/QUOTE]
Other people know how to love.
[QUOTE=SomeFaggot;16430005]Because reproduction is a basic urge?[/QUOTE]
I already discussed that. If it was a basic urge that all humans had, wouldn't I have it?
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[QUOTE=CrazyV2;16430027]Other people know how to love.[/QUOTE]
I'm really not getting anywhere here.... I love my fiance enough and my friends and family..... I have and give enough love to other people every day.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430019]I know that you dolt, I'm recognizing the fact that other people have different opinions. I want to know the reason though - which nobody has given me yet.[/QUOTE]
I gave you a reason, they have different veiws on what life is, so they make different choice in life cause different out comes
X+Y=Z
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430038]I already discussed that. If it was a basic urge that all humans had, wouldn't I have it?[/QUOTE]
Most urges can be suppressed, but there can be repercussions.
[QUOTE=CrazyV2;16429999]Yes! Finally! God damn! That took ages for you to bring up!!!!
[B]I've seen what it's like to raise a kid and I don't want any part of it.[/B]
That's where your logic has a hole. You've seen only one side of the coin. People like to talk about, "oh my god, liek i woke up at 3:50 to feed mah babby, so annoying", but they tend to keep the good times to themselves.
Open your eyes.[/QUOTE]
Uh no, I've seen both sides of it. Birthdays, days out, etc. I've seen people I know happy with kids.
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[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16430062]I gave you a reason, they have different veiws on what life is, so they make different choice in life cause different out comes
X+Y=Z[/QUOTE]
Still a very vague answer...
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[QUOTE=SomeFaggot;16430075]Most urges can be suppressed, but there can be repercussions.[/QUOTE]
A suppressed urge is one that is recognized, then suppressed.... I've never had that urge.
Humans are programmed by nature to like sex because of the end result.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430077]
Still a very vague answer...
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A suppressed urge is one that is recognized, then suppressed.... I've never had that urge.[/QUOTE]
NO that is the exact answer, you just refuse to acknowledge it
I, for one, am glad the OP has chosen to remove himself from the gene pool.
[QUOTE=SomeFaggot;16430100]Humans are programmed by nature to like sex because of the end result.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about you but I like sex because I like making love to my fiance, and the orgasm, not because I want a child.
Well let's be serious.
I myself will get babbies, because I want to continue my family tree. I like to be around babies and people in general, so I want to have a baby of my own some day.
Not just for the heck of it! I want one, because I want to have a son/daughter that will call me a dad and who loves me as a dad.
I want to see my children grow up, go to school, get boyfriends/girlfriends, graduate, get wed.
I want to be there to help them with their life decisiouns, be there to help them when they have sorrows.
Later on, they'll have some babbies and I will still be around to hold my grand children in my arms.
[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16430101]NO that is the exact answer, you just refuse to acknowledge it[/QUOTE]
No it's just "Other people have kids because they think different"
Although it is a valid answer - it's nothing I didn't already know... I just want to know what it is exactly that makes them want this.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430077]
A suppressed urge is one that is recognized, then suppressed.... I've never had that urge.[/QUOTE]
So you've never had an erection?
[QUOTE=CrazyV2;16430121]Well let's be serious.
I myself will get babbies, because I want to continue my family tree. I like to be around babies and people in general, so I want to have a baby of my own some day.
Not just for the heck of it! I want one, because I want to have a son/daughter that will call me a dad and who loves me as a dad.
I want to see my children grow up, go to school, get boyfriends/girlfriends, graduate, get wed.
I want to be there to help them with their life decisiouns, be there to help them when they have sorrows.
Later on, they'll have some babbies and I will still be around to hold my grand children in my arms.[/QUOTE]
My family tree will be continued by the rest of my family...
I get enough love/pride/ etc. from my life as is, so I don't need a child....
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430126]No it's just "Other people have kids because they think different"
Although it is a valid answer - it's nothing I didn't already know... I just want to know what it is exactly that makes them want this.[/QUOTE]
thus you lead onto the question of what life is and what makes a personality, which everyone is asking.
No one really knows, religion may have your answer you may have the answer
[QUOTE=SomeFaggot;16430130]So you've never had an erection?[/QUOTE]
An erection response to a sexual stimulus, you moron. It doesn't mean I've got a hard-on for babies.
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[QUOTE=OIFY_only;16430149]thus you lead onto the question of what life is and what makes a personality, which everyone is asking.
No one really knows, religion may have your answer you may have the answer[/QUOTE]
Atheist.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430141]My family tree will be continued by the rest of my family...
I get enough love/pride/ etc. from my life as is, so I don't need a child....[/QUOTE]
Now you got your reason why people in general want babies.
Quit fucking asking "Why do you people want babies, they're annoying and shit :downs:"
You got your reason, now move along.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430111]I don't know about you but I like sex because I like making love to my fiance, and the orgasm, not because I want a child.[/QUOTE]
Vaginal Sex without an interfering factor (contraceptives) would most likely result in a child.
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[QUOTE=Kapn;16430153]An erection response to a sexual stimulus, you moron. It doesn't mean I've got a hard-on for babies.
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FFS, sex and the stimulus caused by it are nature's way of coaxing you into having a child, thus causing a succession of the species.
[QUOTE=CrazyV2;16430156]Now you got your reason why people in general want babies.
Quit fucking asking "Why do you people want babies, they're annoying and shit :downs:"
You got your reason, now move along.[/QUOTE]
Once again, Whenever I talk to people about this subject who are on the opposite side they prove to be extremely ignorant (not you really)
It's usually something along the lines of :
"LOLOL OK REMOVE URSELF FRUM JEAN PULE"
"OMG UR EVIL!"
"I just want it because It's what I'm supposed to do"
"I just want it because I'm not happy with life as is"
"I'm scared of dying alone" < this one makes no sense to me
For some reason whenever I'm talking to someone on my side of the argument, they usually make more sense. So I see I'm not really getting anywhere - I'm just building a flame war. I guess I'll just continue on my life, and you can all hate me however much you want but I'm perfectly fine and I will continue to be so without children.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430153]
Atheist.[/QUOTE]
Then you are left with DNA causing different chemicals to be released into the brain stimulating the programmed fuctions needed to live, as for personalities science has no real answer as to what makes you you
[QUOTE=SomeFaggot;16430161]Vaginal Sex without an interfering factor (contraceptives) would most likely result in a child.
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FFS, sex and the stimulus caused by it are nature's way of coaxing you into having a child, thus causing a succession of the species.[/QUOTE]
Just because I want something, doesn't mean I want the result. Skateboarders want to skateboard, they don't want to shatter their knees (which is a result - albeit less likely than your example).
So - I'm supposed to be tricked by nature using pleasure as bait? Sounds real natural and miraculous to me.
[QUOTE=Kapn;16430195]Once again, Whenever I talk to people about this subject who are on the opposite side they prove to be extremely ignorant (not you really)
It's usually something along the lines of :
"LOLOL OK REMOVE URSELF FRUM JEAN PULE"
"OMG UR EVIL!"
"I just want it because It's what I'm supposed to do"
"I just want it because I'm not happy with life as is"
"I'm scared of dying alone" < this one makes no sense to me
For some reason whenever I'm talking to someone on my side of the argument, they usually make more sense. So I see I'm not really getting anywhere - I'm just building a flame war. I guess I'll just continue on my life, and you can all hate me however much you want but I'm perfectly fine and I will continue to be so without children.[/QUOTE]
Then why are we having this argument?
Do you feel alone, so you had the urge to find more people who hate babies? You want to build a community, so that you'd have the feeling that you belong somewhere?
[QUOTE=CrazyV2;16430230]Then why are we having this argument?
Do you feel alone, so you had the urge to find more people who hate babies? You want to build a community, so that you'd have the feeling that you belong somewhere?[/QUOTE]
I just wanted to try to understand the other side of the argument but it's been completely fruitless. Nobody can give me a logical answer. I guess I'll just have to assume it's something I'll never understand...
Natural response.
Once you get older you'll start wanting one.
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