Reddit is Systematically destroying Rush Rush Limbaugh right now - General

[QUOTE=thisispain;34984832]no, there's a federal act called the Clean Water Act. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Water_Act[/url] based on your own stupid logic, if the legislation which forces insurance companies to cover reproductive care makes everything she does taxpayer business, then the legislation forcing facilities and municipalities to provide clean water makes everything anyone does with water taxpayer business. same thing with the legislation that regulates TV and the internet. besides that you can't prove that this will cost the taxpayer anything considering you made some completely bogus claim that any legislation costs the taxpayer money. [editline]3rd March 2012[/editline] thanks a lot but i'm pretty sure all my points and responses are laid out correctly without having you to police them. not that i asked your input anyway.[/QUOTE] You misunderstand me completely. You also missed a step in the process by which you acquire your water. You buy it from the municipality. That effectively makes it your property (and your business what you do with it). The clean water act basically says to the municipality' "hey, you can't give people shitty water." It regulates the product the municipality is selling you. And as for my argument about all legislation costing money being "bogus." Where does the money come from for: The electricity which keeps lights on during legislative sessions? The paper on which hundreds of copies of hundred page long bills is printed? The salaries for registrars, secretaries, and the legislators themselves? The research teams, polling, and collecting of data that occurs before legislation is written/passed? The taxpayer.

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34984927]I know Rush is an arrogant bigoted shitstain and his comments were totally idiotic but I don't think the [I][b]government[/b][/I] should provide birth control.[/QUOTE] Atleast the Insurance companies should provide it and the church should not interefere with fucking Humanae Vitae

[QUOTE=Ordigenius;34984880]the article is 4 years old, and if you keep reading it you can see that there is a better contraceptives than the pill, the vaginal ring, witch needs medical prescription ranging from 50$ to 200$; and the ring itself that costs 35$ per month that's 420 per year plus up to 200$ for the prescription. Also, women uso more than one method, usually condoms because they offer STD protection [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] but, aren't most americans unable to get medical insurance because of the economic status?[/QUOTE] Then the number they calculated is valid now, because it's for condoms? As for the more expensive contraception: Why? If you can't afford the best, you don't go buy it. I.E. the difference between public and private schools. And referencing your "aren't most....." statement, when does it becomes the government's job to supply/force others to supply something for you?

[QUOTE=Ordigenius;34984991]Atleast the Insurance companies should provide it and the church should not interefere with fucking Humanae Vitae[/QUOTE] Could you clarify that? I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34985020]Could you clarify that? I don't understand what you're trying to say here.[/QUOTE] The goverment is not provinding her healthcare, is the University as a part of her student insurance, however it doesn't cover contraception because the Georgetown Uni, being a catholic institution, must abide the Humanae Vitae ecclesiastic letter (the one condemning any contraceptive method)

[QUOTE=Ordigenius;34985093]The goverment is not provinding her healthcare, is the University as a part of her student insurance, however it doesn't cover contraception because the Georgetown Uni, being a catholic institution, must abide the Humanae Vitae ecclesiastic letter (the one condemning any contraceptive method)[/QUOTE] Th church feels compelled to interfere because they would be purchasing the insurance which provides the contraception. That's facilitation, and therefore the root of the moral conflict. [editline]time[/editline] Imagine your own situation. Let's just say you are a middle-man between a drug dealer and his clients. You'll transfer any drug, but you're philosophically opposed to people doing heroine, so you make a promise to yourself that you won't facilitate it's use. Pretty soon, people come to you asking to give them heroine atop all the other services you provide. Now take that, and imagine that [i]you're[/i] the one buying the drugs. People are asking you to buy and transfer a drug to them that you are philosophically opposed to.

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985116]Th church feels compelled to interfere because they would be purchasing the insurance which provides the contraception. That's facilitation, and therefore the root of the moral conflict.[/QUOTE] no, the church feels compelled to interfered because some old fart called the pope about 50 years ago decided to adress that contraceptives are bad for us because they interfere with our reproductive purpose of having genitals. that's all

[QUOTE=Ordigenius;34985157]no, the church feels compelled to interfered because some old fart called the pope about 50 years ago decided to adress that contraceptives are bad for us because they interfere with our reproductive purpose of having genitals. that's all[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter why the Catholics believe what they do. The fact is, it's a tenant of their religion, and therefore protected under the 1st amendment. Also, my above illustration.

[QUOTE=sdwise;34984965]You misunderstand me completely. You also missed a step in the process by which you acquire your water. You buy it from the municipality. That effectively makes it your property (and your business what you do with it). The clean water act basically says to the municipality' "hey, you can't give people shitty water." It regulates the product the municipality is selling you. And as for my argument about all legislation costing money being "bogus." Where does the money come from for: The electricity which keeps lights on during legislative sessions? The paper on which hundreds of copies of hundred page long bills is printed? The salaries for registrars, secretaries, and the legislators themselves? The research teams, polling, and collecting of data that occurs before legislation is written/passed? The taxpayer.[/QUOTE] That's not how taxes work in this or any other country. You can't decide not to pay your taxes one day because the government is working on a bill you don't like. Additionally, the birth control a women gets via an insurance policy is her property because she paid the company which in turn covered the bill for the medication/procedure. So I don't see how your water argument is any different than that. [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=sdwise;34985198]Doesn't matter why the Catholics believe what they do. The fact is, it's a tenant of their religion, and therefore protected under the 1st amendment. Also, my above illustration.[/QUOTE] Well then they should probably leave the country because they are also paying for the world's largest military which I'm pretty sure goes against "Thou shalt not kill."

[QUOTE=GoldenGnome]That's not how taxes work in this or any other country. You can't decide not to pay your taxes one day because the government is working on a bill you don't like.[/QUOTE] So? I never said you can. The simple fact is, you as a tax payer have the right to know what your money is being spent on. [QUOTE]Additionally, the birth control a women gets via an insurance policy is her property because she paid the company which in turn covered the bill for the medication/procedure. So I don't see how your water argument is any different than that.[/QUOTE] Because she isn't saying she want's to buy her own insurance that covers contraceptives, as you buy your own water. She want's the contraceptives to be provided by her [i]student[/i] health insurance plan, which is provided by the college.

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985116] Imagine your own situation. Let's just say you are a middle-man between a drug dealer and his clients. You'll transfer any drug, but you're philosophically opposed to people doing heroine, so you make a promise to yourself that you won't facilitate it's use. Pretty soon, people come to you asking to give them heroine atop all the other services you provide. Now take that, and imagine that [i]you're[/i] the one buying the drugs. People are asking you to buy and transfer a drug to them that you are philosophically opposed to.[/QUOTE] Then why I am the middle man on what it appears to be a moronicly complex drug dealing system if I am opposed to people doing heroine?

[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;34985209]That's not how taxes work in this or any other country. You can't decide not to pay your taxes one day because the government is working on a bill you don't like. Additionally, the birth control a women gets via an insurance policy is her property because she paid the company which in turn covered the bill for the medication/procedure. So I don't see how your water argument is any different than that. [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] Well then they should probably leave the country because they are also paying for the world's largest military which I'm pretty sure goes against "Thou shalt not kill."[/QUOTE] Umm, religious institutions are tax exempt...

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985251]So? I never said you can. The simple fact is, you as a tax payer have the right to know what your money is being spent on. Because she isn't saying she want's to buy her own insurance that covers contraceptives, as you buy your own water. She want's the contraceptives to be provided by her [i]student[/i] health insurance plan, which is provided by the college.[/QUOTE] ...which she pays money to attend.

[QUOTE=Ordigenius;34985278]Then why I am the middle man on what it appears to be a moronicly complex drug dealing system if I am opposed to people doing heroine?[/QUOTE] It's not all drugs. The only one you have a problem with is heroine.

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985280]Umm, religious institutions are tax exempt...[/QUOTE] Umm, all religious people aren't... Nice try though m8

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985251]So? I never said you can. The simple fact is, you as a tax payer have the right to know what your money is being spent on. [/QUOTE] Because we all are 100% sure where all our taxpayer money goes I am sure it doesn't go into Limbaughs' viagra pills or drugs

[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;34985289]...which she pays money to attend.[/QUOTE] And? That doesn't change the fact that the school then turns around and pays money out of [i]their[/i] pocket for the insurance

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985321]And? That doesn't change the fact that the school then turns around and pays money out of [i]their[/i] pocket for the insurance[/QUOTE] Money which she put there. Hmm, people paying money to an institution, and that institution then spending that money on the well being of those people. Sounds a bit familiar. Kind of like... Insurance?!

[QUOTE=Ordigenius;34985307]Because we all are 100% sure where all our taxpayer money goes I am sure it doesn't go into Limbaughs' viagra pills or drugs[/QUOTE] I'm sure it doesn't as well, as he likely buys his own insurance. And you completely miss the point. Taxpayers are a collective body of citizens. The citizenry, as the funders of the government, have the right to know what it does.

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He has 750 million dollars. Anything Reddit will do is nothing.

[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;34985338]Money which she put there. Hmm, people paying money to an institution, and that institution then spending that money on the well being of those people. Sounds a bit familiar.[/QUOTE] "Well being" does not include "fucking with school-funded condoms" (or other contraceptive techniques).

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985356]"Well being" does not include "fucking with school-funded condoms" (or other contraceptive techniques).[/QUOTE] You're really dense if you think that's the only use/function of birth control.

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985339]I'm sure it doesn't as well, as he likely buys his own insurance. And you completely miss the point. Taxpayers are a collective body of citizens. The citizenry, as the funders of the government, have the right to know what it does.[/QUOTE] will you stop sucking Limbaugh's cock, he called the girl a slut just because he is a huge bigot, religious zealot, and I bet he bought all his coke with your taxpayer money

[QUOTE=Ordigenius;34985377]will you stop sucking Limbaugh's cock, he called the girl a slut just because he is a huge bigot, religious zealot, and I bet he bought all his coke with your taxpayer money[/QUOTE] Any backing evidence? I'm not sucking anyone's cock, I just refuse to be a giant fucking faggot and hate people because they disagree with me. Also, great argument. Very credible.

[QUOTE=Ziirxia;34970613]I'm a redditor, I don't understand all the hate for it. While it's got some shit, r/gaming and r/minecraft is the ones I frequent.[/QUOTE] What happened with the yogscast shows the majority of reddit are sheep that will try to utterly destroy a site based on second hand rumours that their god notch heard.

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985403]Any backing evidence? I'm not sucking anyone's cock, I just refuse to be a giant fucking faggot and hate people because they disagree with me. Also, great argument. Very credible.[/QUOTE] just to make it clear, even santorum thinks that Rush's mad [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1167997?p=34985155#post34985155[/url] Rick Santorum for fucks sake

[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;34985376]You're really dense if you think that's the only use/function of birth control.[/QUOTE] Actually, my mother has poly-cystic ovarian syndrome. I know full well what hormone pills, especially contraceptives, can do. I also know full well that Georgetown University makes exceptions in their policy for such situations as those. [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ordigenius;34985424]just to make it clear, even santorum thinks that Rush's mad [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1167997?p=34985155#post34985155[/url] Rick Santorum for fucks sake[/QUOTE] Santorum is a Moral Fascist who will do anything to grow his base.

[QUOTE=sdwise;34985429]Actually, my mother has poly-cystic ovarian syndrome. I know full well what hormone pills, especially contraceptives, can do. I also know full well that Georgetown University makes exceptions in their policy for such situations as those. [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] Santorum is a Moral Fascist who will do anything to grow his base.[/QUOTE] You're no different than him if you're opposing the funding of contraception because it encourages sex, which is, by the by, a health issue.

[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;34985470]You're no different than him if you're opposing the funding of contraception because it encourages sex, which is, by the by, a health issue.[/QUOTE] I'm not anti-contraception. I just don't think the government should force catholic institutions to provide contraception for people with no real need other than sex. You can choose not to fuck. You can't choose if baseball-sized tumors grow on your ovaries. And it's not the government's [i]purpose[/i] to make sure people can fuck freely with contraception provided by catholic institutions and, in fact, it goes [i]directly against[/i] certain protections for religious institutions such as those in the 1st Amendment.