• Totalbiscuit - The Framerate Police
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So that's that but no you're not allowed to have a list of 30 fps games? I swear this topic makes some people go full retard
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230725]Because it's not been made specifically for them? It's a mass produced product and many people will enjoy it, some won't. Thats that.[/QUOTE] Then they are also entitled to not buy it if the product does not have what they want. Hence, resources like this to help guide people in their purchasing decisions. Again, are they supposed to buy what they don't want out of pity? Out of a greater sense of obligation to the industry? Is buying games that I don't want my patriotic duty?
"Your complaint isn't serious enough" is not a fucking argument. It's a child's fallacy
Again I'll say, yes they should say if it's locked, but you guys act as if it's the worst thing in the whole world for a game to not have a FOV slider or unlimited frame rate. It's not that big of a deal & certainly nothing like a health issue that could be given by other types of products.
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230725]Because it's not been made specifically for them? It's a mass produced product and many people will enjoy it, some won't. Thats that.[/QUOTE] And those who don't aren't entitled to warn other users that also wouldn't enjoy said product for the same reasons, to avoid wasting their money?
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230781]Again I'll say, yes they should say if it's locked, but you guys act as if it's the worst thing in the whole world for a game to not have a FOV slider or unlimited frame rate. It's not that big of a deal & certainly nothing like a health issue that could be given by other types of products.[/QUOTE] I think it's you who's overblowing this issue. I personally want to know if game is locked and if it has adjustable fps. If it doesn't, I don't buy it. That's all. It's not the worst thing, it's not the best thing. It's good to have information and options though.
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230781]Again I'll say, yes they should say if it's locked, but you guys act as if it's the worst thing in the whole world for a game to not have a FOV slider or unlimited frame rate. It's not that big of a deal & certainly nothing like a health issue that could be given by other types of products.[/QUOTE] It [B]can[/B] be a health issue, i don't see how you're not getting that. Playing a game with a low frame rate and a narrow FOV occasionally makes me violently ill if i'm playing it for too long, it happens with a boat load of people, it's not something that's hard to grasp. I'm effectively cut off from games that i enjoy like the CoD franchise and other shooters because of it, not even so much frame rate on its own but the extremely narrow FOV. It's inexcusable and a basic feature that has no business being ignored. If a game can include something like a view distance option, why can't it include an FOV slider?
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230781]Again I'll say, yes they should say if it's locked, but you guys act as if it's the worst thing in the whole world for a game to not have a FOV slider or unlimited frame rate. It's not that big of a deal & certainly nothing like a health issue that could be given by other types of products.[/QUOTE] Right cause I forgot I should buy things that I don't want because "reasons". You're the one making a big deal out of literally nothing
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230781]Again I'll say, yes they should say if it's locked, but you guys act as if it's the worst thing in the whole world for a game to not have a FOV slider or unlimited frame rate. It's not that big of a deal & certainly nothing like a health issue that could be given by other types of products.[/QUOTE] one person said that and now you're making a giant pissy fit about it as if everyone else said it as well oh my god just shut up already
You guys wonder why game devs pander to the console market...
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230859]You guys wonder why game devs pander to the console market...[/QUOTE] You make comments like these but say we're the ones overreacting Sure, buddy.
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[QUOTE=fragger0;48230859]You guys wonder why game devs pander to the console market...[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, those same consoles that are now boasting that they can run games at 60.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;48230827]quote[/QUOTE] It's inexcusable to not include a FOV slider in a game? A feature that would allow someone to gain an advantage over others should be added because it makes you uncomfortable? How about just don't play the game...
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230859]You guys wonder why game devs pander to the console market...[/QUOTE] Those same consoles that advertise "LOOK AT THEM 1080/60" everytime a game manages it?
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230917]It's inexcusable to not include a FOV slider in a game? A feature that would allow someone to gain an advantage over others should be added because it makes you uncomfortable? How about just don't play the game...[/QUOTE] You mean an advantage that literally everyone can get by opening their options menu? And fuck if you actually consider a slightly higher FOV to be that big of an advantage, are you gonna start bitching that people might have stronger computers than others? That they might have better keyboards or monitors? Because those provide actual advantages and nobody complains there.
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[QUOTE=fragger0;48230917]It's inexcusable to not include a FOV slider in a game? A feature that would allow someone to gain an advantage over others should be added because it makes you uncomfortable? How about just don't play the game...[/QUOTE] This comment should confirm that he's trolling. We can stop losing our shit now.
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230917]It's inexcusable to not include a FOV slider in a game? A feature that would allow someone to gain an advantage over others should be added because it makes you uncomfortable? How about just don't play the game...[/QUOTE] Using a controller gives an advantage in some games, but would you complain about that being an option? Some people literally get motion sick if the FOV is too low.
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You're all blowing these issues so out of proportion it's ridiculous... it might be [I]slightly[/I] annoying but nowhere near as big a deal as you all love to make out. More silly analogies that are completely designed to make the issue seem 100000x worse than it actually is
I swear, Totalbuiscuit treads attract some of the most bizarre people.
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230969]You're all blowing these issues so out of proportion it's ridiculous... it might be [I]slightly[/I] annoying but nowhere near as big a deal as you all love to make out. More silly analogies that are completely designed to make the issue seem 100000x worse than it actually is[/QUOTE] The point we're trying to make is that it shouldn't be an issue at all.
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230969]it might be [I]slightly[/I] annoying but nowhere near as big a deal as you all love to make out.[/QUOTE] Not being able to play a game you want to play because it gives you genuine motion sickness is not just "slightly annoying". Real fucking sorry if it's not as serious as dying from an asthma attack, but it's sure a hell not okay.
[QUOTE=kilerabv;48230972]I swear, Totalbuiscuit treads attract some of the most bizarre people.[/QUOTE] Yeah... the people who go crazy over a game not having features that they expected but were never promised [QUOTE=Skyward;48230987]Not being able to play a game you want to play because it gives you genuine motion sickness is not just "slightly annoying". Real fucking sorry if it's not quite like dying from an asthma attack, but it's sure a hell not okay.[/QUOTE] Why is it not okay? You're not entitled to play it - sure, they should warn of locked FPS or FOV but if it has either it's perfectly okay for them to - I don't get why you feel you're entitled to play every game even ones that make you sick? It's such a small issue it basically doesn't exist, just people who love to complain spurring it on further. It's like being allergic to a food product, then complaining to the manufacturer they should change the ingredients because you want to eat it but cant.
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230995]Yeah... the people who go crazy over a game not having features that they expected but were never promised[/QUOTE] Oh yes. How dare we expect a game on the PC to be up to a certain standard. How fucking dare we want to be able to play a game that is not locked to 30 fps and has an FOV slider when it's appropriate for the game. Truly we are the real monsters.
[QUOTE=fragger0;48230995][B]It's such a small issue it basically doesn't exist[/B], just people who love to complain spurring it on further.[/QUOTE] Good one.
Yeah... the fact you're so bothered by it is just ridiculous. If they never promised a FOV slider and uncapped FPS why do you expect it?
[QUOTE=fragger0;48231025]Yeah... the fact you're so bothered by it is just ridiculous. If they never promised a FOV slider and uncapped FPS why do you expect it?[/QUOTE] Alright, try not to throw a hissy fit over this analogy. "Hey, this car I bought doesn't have air conditioning, I can't adjust my seat and I can't roll down my windows. " "Sorry sir we never promised any of those features, so we never put them in."
[QUOTE=kilerabv;48231071]Alright, try not to throw a hissy fit over this analogy. "Hey, this car I bought doesn't have air conditioning, I can't adjust my seat and I can't roll down my windows. " "Sorry sir we never promised any of those features, so we never put them in."[/QUOTE] I can tell you're all going to continue your delusions and fail to realise that these features are far from important... I give up, you all continue to whine because certain games aren't made specifically to your personal prefereneces
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