[QUOTE=LuaChobo;48232827]Lack of forsight isn't really an excuse when you know how your fanbase reacts to things, apologising after the fact doesn't excuse the fact you didn't make it clear initially.
If your fanbase is hoards of mouth breathing idiots you should know how to deal with them without them trying to fuck up other people.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe that stupid fucker Totalbiscuit decided to objectively, conveniently inform people about what they are spending money on at not cost to them and couldn't even bother do do it without a single flaw.
someone give me his address I'm gonna send him a length of rope and let him finish the job for me
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;48232860]
I mean, all of pewdiepie fanbase are stupid kids that wanna laugh at rape jokes right? That seems to be a pretty popular opinion here.[/QUOTE]
Was there a recent thread on PDP here because I'm a fan of PDP and I'd like to give those guys a piece of my mind.
I'm not understanding blaming TB for a couple of people's dumb actions.
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;48232827]Lack of forsight isn't really an excuse when you know how your fanbase reacts to things, apologising after the fact doesn't excuse the fact you didn't make it clear initially.
If your fanbase is hoards of mouth breathing idiots you should know how to deal with them without them trying to fuck up other people.[/QUOTE]
you're being rude and generalizing a fairly large audience with a very broad brush
you're also failing to understand responsibility, but hey, keep on chugging on
[editline]17th July 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;48232860]This is facepunch, people constantly generalise YouTube fanbases.
I mean, all of pewdiepie fanbase are stupid kids that wanna laugh at rape jokes right? That seems to be a pretty popular opinion here.
All I'm saying is TB has a track record of doing things with good intentions then going "oh shit my fanbase is being retarded" and telling them off for it, then doing it all over again without learning anything.[/QUOTE]
what do you expect him to learn from it? to not do anything?
people object to everything and people react badly to everything
I really don't get how this works.
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;48232860]This is facepunch, people constantly generalise YouTube fanbases.
I mean, all of pewdiepie fanbase are stupid kids that wanna laugh at rape jokes right? That seems to be a pretty popular opinion here.
All I'm saying is TB has a track record of doing things with good intentions then going "oh shit my fanbase is being retarded" and telling them off for it, then doing it all over again without learning anything.[/QUOTE]
I've never once called pewdiepies fanbase stupid kids that wanna laugh at rape jokes. Do you know anything about the videos TB does and what he says? He's never called his fanbase retarded, or anything like that. In fact he's doing well, his fanbase is growing and people like him. Stuff has been going down in the game industry for a while now, and he's got a very educated and consumer-friendly way of talking about it. His entire motive is to help costumers understand what they're buying.
Amazing how this thread brings out the worst posters. :v:
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;48231493]Doesn't that only apply to consoles?[/QUOTE]
Largely. Though it can be useful if you're trying to target toasters or whatever too. Games that are trying to push their graphics to higher levels on consoles will pretty much always aim for a fixed timestep and framerate because it's predictable. When it carries over to PC it is never due to full on incompetence or anything like that, but largely because it's a port of a working product, you don't change fundamental things in stuff like that unless you're already rolling in unknowable bank.
We're seeing it a lot in games from Japan more than anywhere else because they aren't used to developing on this platform in particular. The handful of western releases with hard frame rate locks are usually the fault of some outsourced porting group.
[editline]18th July 2015[/editline]
I'd also love to know what's disagreeable with my technical explanation of why someone might want a fixed frametime back there?
You are cutting cycles out per frame that could be better used by removing the interpolation mechanisms needed to have variable frametime. This is not up for debate, this is basic computing architecture shit.
[editline]18th July 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=lxmach1;48231858]Delta Time is just the time it took for the game to update in seconds, when divided by your target framerate it gives you a ratio of how much to scale things(ie divide by 60 and, if running at 60, it will be 1. anything below increases scale and anything above decreases). Using Delta Time is incredibly simple, and with Substepping(calculating physics as a separate process) it's even easier to maintain stability at even the lowest of framerates. You just have to be mindful of what things need delta time, such as traces and timers.
It makes sense not to use delta time for consoles because console games are expected to hit their framerate at all times, allowing devs to focus all processing on the game rather than substepping. But for PC games, delta time and substepping are probably some of the best things you can use to make sure everyone gets a smooth experience.[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly familiar with how these things work, having written the basic implementations of it a couple of times myself. Offloading calculations to other cores or threads is pretty obvious if you don't want it to interfere with your frametime. But it can introduce a few extra little snags you need to be watchful for as with any form of concurrent programming (though admittedly there is no real need for a locking mechanism here as you'll only be reading from the other process! Save cycles, stop locking!).
[QUOTE=Skunky;48233397]Amazing how this thread brings out the worst posters. :v:[/QUOTE]
People are so dumb about something objectively better it's amazing
Apparently if (guy p person hates) says (thing) it's wrong because (reason)
Jesus, I thought the TB hate had simmered down a while ago, but this 10 pages of some of the craziest shit proved me wrong I guess.
[I]Some people[/I] here really need to calm down.
I don't really get why people are using the "it's 2d, it doesn't need to be 60fps" argument for some games. Almost every console game made before n64/ps1 era was 60fps, it was standard. It just seems like people are making excuses for things that are just plain laziness.
I wonder how many people who prefer 30 fps gaming don't realize that there are a million billion ways to cap fps at 30, and acts like we should cap EVERY game at 30 to cater to their 'needs'
[QUOTE=J!NX;48234142]I wonder how many people who prefer 30 fps gaming don't realize that there are a million billion ways to cap fps at 30, and acts like we should cap EVERY game at 30 to cater to their 'needs'[/QUOTE]
except literally no one said this in the thread, they just said there's reasons for most of the caps in the first place.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;48234489]except literally no one said this in the thread, they just said there's reasons for most of the caps in the first place.[/QUOTE]
I never said anyone did, it was just speculation. You shouldn't be judging me however, Mr. "I'm going to misquote someone to make myself sound right"
Don't point someone out for doing something you have done yourself.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;48229780](it really is, if you really think its not you're blind as shit when its run by mister "if its not 120 fps its completely unplayable on my 5x titan rig") TB is just acting like hes the savior or PC gaming again[/QUOTE]
Where did this bullshit even come from? God damn
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;48215120]Not every game has to be at 60fps. I prefer 60, but I'm not going to get upset Nuclear Throne is at 30fps when it plays just fine.
And this whole curator list seems redundant when games' user reviews will already tell you if they're locked at a lower framerate.[/QUOTE]
Stop defending terrible PC ports like Arkham Knight.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;48232745]Totalbiscuit has no control over his fans except to tell them to not do something.[/QUOTE]He's been pulling "WELL I GUESS I'M JUST NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MY FANBASE GUYS ^_^" shit since his Warcraft podcast days.
[QUOTE=The Kins;48236697]He's been pulling "WELL I GUESS I'M JUST NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MY FANBASE GUYS ^_^" shit since his Warcraft podcast days.[/QUOTE]
Because he isn't.
To even imply any famous person is responsible for their fanbase is silly.
[QUOTE=The Kins;48236697]He's been pulling "WELL I GUESS I'M JUST NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MY FANBASE GUYS ^_^" shit since his Warcraft podcast days.[/QUOTE]
Let me guess, next step is comparing TB to Hitler?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48236788]To even imply any famous person is responsible for their fanbase is silly.[/QUOTE]
Well... if you admire someone you start to copy his actions or ideology.
TB has in-fact a lot of power and responsibilty even if he doesn't notice.
It's very simple psycholology.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48236797]Well... if you admire someone you start to copy his actions or ideology.
TB has in-fact a lot of power and responsibilty even if he doesn't notice.
It's very psycholology.[/QUOTE]
And when he speaks up abut an issue, he chooses his words very carefully.
Of course when goofing about on the Co-optional podcast, he lets the snark through, but otherwise you can tell he's studied law :v:
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48236797]Well... if you admire someone you start to copy his actions or ideology.
TB has in-fact a lot of power and responsibilty even if he doesn't notice.
It's very psycholology.[/QUOTE]
stop right here.
what actions is anyone copying? Oh wait, none, they're being dicks of their own accord
and once again, we have a large thread of "Look what TB did, laugh at how much he sucks" from a bunch of people who are honestly, fairly deluded and don't care about the reality of the situation in the first place anyways so it's not important.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48238610]stop right here.
what actions is anyone copying? Oh wait, none, they're being dicks of their own accord
and once again, we have a large thread of "Look what TB did, laugh at how much he sucks" from a bunch of people who are honestly, fairly deluded and don't care about the reality of the situation in the first place anyways so it's not important.[/QUOTE]
What? :v:
One guy said, TB is not responsible of his fans actions.
And I said, yes, people do copy the behaviour of people they follow and idiolize.
It's what people do.
I have no idea what you are refering or what they copy.
It was a simple objective observation. People copy people they like.
No judgement, no events I am refering to, it could also be positive things.
I just don't see what behaviour is being copied I guess
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48238699]I just don't see what behaviour is being copied I guess[/QUOTE]
Me neither.
Just saying that it's untrue to claim that he has no responsibilty over his fanbase.
Not sure if you have noticed, but it seems that you have crossed the Canadian border to the US while you were writing your post on your iPhone. :v:
[img]http://abload.de/img/9_teamcnrgv.jpg[/img]
Ofcourse TB has a lot of responsibility. He needs to make sure that he represents each game he covers in a fair and objective way, and to make as few mistakes as possible. He has however no responsibility over how people interpret and decide to act upon the information he delivers.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48238744]Me neither.
Just saying that it's untrue to claim that he has no responsibilty over his fanbase.
Not sure if you have noticed, but it seems that you have crossed the Canadian border to the US while you were writing your post on your iPhone. :v:
[img]http://abload.de/img/9_teamcnrgv.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
that is incredibly strange.
Somehow my porch is in the US, and my room is in Canada.
What the dick.
looks like you're gonna be paying a lot in taxes
Here's a pic an indie dev posted on twitter:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pzas6fY.png[/IMG]
There's no negative connotation with 30fps games or incentive to achieve 60 fps(Unless it's a fast-paced game). There's a negative connotation attached to it when there's a lack of transparency between the developer's advertised features and the actual features. Why is an anti-consumer attitude acceptable for you, but suddenly when customers find a way to inform people objective features of a product, it's detrimental to the seller and not acceptable? It's why early-access games get away with this kind of shit but not fully published games or AAA publishers.
[QUOTE=Eric95;48239364]Here's a pic an indie dev posted on twitter:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pzas6fY.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Source?
Also why should I Google whether or not a game runs at 30FPS when it could be right on the store page if the games doesn't suffer for it.
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