[QUOTE=Chubbles;33240178]Want to know something?
We don't mourn 9/11 anymore.
In my English Class, all semester, we've analyzed 9/11 articles, and books, and movies. (Someone out there might remember me talking about this in another thread) But what we've discovered from reading about 9/11 is that America is an extremely fast-paced country that likes to move on. We tend to forget about things that happen in America almost as quickly as it happened and that's the truth about us as a nation. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but we don't think about what happened on 9/11 unless it's coming up soon or actually the day of the remembrance. We are a very individualistic nation and don't tend to stay in one spot for long, whether it be with trends, music, or any other tragedies as well.
Though you might think we're still mourning 9/11, we really only do it one day out of the year, and other than that, we never really think about it all that much.
This is one of the pictures that was used in an essay discussing how, as a nation, we tend to move on. This picture was used out of context in the essay, but it demonstrates America, even as the towers were burning down, there were people still enjoying a nice afternoon in the park, not paying much attention to what was happening. (In reality, the people were actually stopping their bike ride to discuss the tragedy that was then occurring.)
[img]http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/2006/09/1_123125_122966_2145295_060911_magnumthoepker.jpg.CROP.rectangle3-large.jpg[/img]
Essay reference: [url]http://thecommons4change.blogspot.com/2006/09/frank-rich-whatever-happened-to.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Just read this guys please and stop complaining.
Bwcause people are idiots.
Because thousands died in 9/11 ;_;
What's a holocaust?
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;33227985]This may be odd, but I've never actually seen anyone mourn WW1. Not sure why.
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I went to the supposed Armistice Day memorial that was supposed to be at the cenotaph in the center of town; when I sat down and looked at my watch it was 11:11 and the only people there that looked like they had a purpose being there were the agglomeration of veterans, and they disbanded after about 10 minutes. All the while, life in the town had gone about its way, and the only sign that it was Armistice Day was the unusual number of people wearing those memorial poppies. I was almost disappointed that there was so little respect/remembrance, but I realized that WWI was so far away that nobody could really form enough of an emotional connection to it to care; even I, who had gotten up and walked the 2 miles into town to be at the memorial, couldn't feel anything strong. I think for most of the adult people I saw walking around, WWI was something that their grandfathers or great-grandfathers were involved in. Time erodes at people's sentiments, man.
I havent seen anyone mourn about it ever.
What happened on November 9? (9/11)
People who are bouncing "It wouldn't be the same in another country" are loons, It's the truth. Look at the 7/7 bombings in the UK. Nobody cares anymore, Nobody mourns anymore. Because our media didn't whip it into a metric shitstorm.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;33250993]People who are bouncing "It wouldn't be the same in another country" are loons, It's the truth. Look at the 7/7 bombings in the UK. Nobody cares anymore, Nobody mourns anymore. Because our media didn't whip it into a metric shitstorm.[/QUOTE]
Another English-speaking, almost identical developed country isn't a very good example.
I miss my brother
Alot of people lost families in the 9/11 incident, apparently uncles, mother's, father's, brothers, and even cousin's lives were lost. Unfortunately if you're not a victim of family loss as a result of it, you wouldn't really care.
[QUOTE=slippp22;33245014]if this happened in any other country no one would give a shit, but if it happens to America its a world issue[/QUOTE]
What are you.... There are people in other countries who lost family members in the same situation.
[QUOTE=lolo;33252233]Alot of people lost families in the 9/11 incident, apperently uncles, mother's, father's, brothers, and even cousin's lives were lost. Unfortunatley if you're not a victim of family loss as a result of it, you wouldn't really care.
What are you.... There's people in other countries who lost family members in the same situation.[/QUOTE]
I can't feel sorry for the losses of people that in retaliation killed 100x as many people as where lost in the attack.
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And you might want to try and use a spell checker, because apparently you can't spell for shit.
[QUOTE=slippp22;33245014]if this happened in any other country no one would give a shit, but if it happens to america its a world issue[/QUOTE]
It's not a world issue it's a western issue. Most countries don't care about 9/11 anymore, if they ever did.
Honestly, I don't quite understand why people still do. It's been how long since 9/11. I've stopped mourning a very long time ago, about 3 months after it. Although it may just be that because I never lost anyone significant to me.
Well honestly it kind of faded into the background (at least outside of New York) until this year. Because this was not only the tenth anniversary, but this year we finally brought the man responsible to justice. When you do something like that it is going to stir things up a bit. I'm sure if it turn out that Hitler really is alive in Argentina (it's possible) it'd start a lot of WW2/holocaust mourning. Also in direct response to one of the things you mentioned: the holocaust and Stalin's atrocities didn't happen in a single day each. Think about it, yes they were tragic, but on 9/11 the lives of nearly 3,000 innocent people were cut short almost simultaniously
Never remember.
This is why we shouldn't make threads like this. It's like holding a big sign up saying "assholes and trolls social gathering"
For the people saying who gives a shit move on. If any of your family member or friends were their I'm sure you would feel very, very differently on the matter.
I'm sure if you were an eye witness it would leave mental scars seeing people jumping out of the buildings to certain death.
Try and think about it before you post narrow minded crap.
Oh my fucking god I'm tired of seeing this thread. This isn't a national holiday where all Americans cry, it was something a bunch of Americans made up. Many people lost their father, mother, brother, or whatever in a terrorist attack. It's perfectly fine to mourn.
And how do you know if another country wouldn't be mourning the same exact shit happened? Only thing I haven't seen people mourn about is the holocaust. In my state, I never see funerals for 9/11, never. No one ever talked about it that day in my household. Nor did my street, city, and county. Sure the media made it a big thing, wasn't America's fault. We didn't ask Fox News to go OMG TERRORIST END OF WORLD that day. I saw what happened on TV as a child, and I shed a tear. Most people did, it was tragic event.
FP seems to think that if they don't like a crowd of people mourning over something then they should just fuck off. How do you know if a few of those people mourning ACTUALLY lost someone close that day? What if you were 6 and your mother or other close family member died and you could never see them again? Might aswell say we shouldn't mourn about our dead grandfather because it's not a big deal.
Oh that's why my school was flipping out.
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;33227754]T I've never had any loss in my life, and I'm only 14. So maybe that's it. [/QUOTE]
Bingo.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;33256564]Oh my fucking god I'm tired of seeing this thread. This isn't a national holiday where all Americans cry, it was something a bunch of Americans made up. Many people lost their father, mother, brother, or whatever in a terrorist attack. It's perfectly fine to mourn.
And how do you know if another country wouldn't be mourning the same exact shit happened? Only thing I haven't seen people mourn about is the holocaust. In my state, I never see funerals for 9/11, never. No one ever talked about it that day in my household. Nor did my street, city, and county. Sure the media made it a big thing, wasn't America's fault. We didn't ask Fox News to go OMG TERRORIST END OF WORLD that day. I saw what happened on TV as a child, and I shed a tear. Most people did, it was tragic event.
FP seems to think that if they don't like a crowd of people mourning over something then they should just fuck off. How do you know if a few of those people mourning ACTUALLY lost someone close that day? What if you were 6 and your mother or other close family member died and you could never see them again? Might aswell say we shouldn't mourn about our dead grandfather because it's not a big deal.[/QUOTE]
Your words are really falling on deaf ears. Facepunch is pretty much full of 14 year olds who probably couldn't remember much about 9/11 other than what they read on Wikipedia.
9/11 wasn't just some small little incident - it was a massive disaster that killed over 3,000 people and did alot of damage, of course it's still going to have some sort of relevance from time to time years afterwards.
People who mourn but didn't lose any friends or family in the attacks are mourning out of respect for both the victims and the people close to them - they went through a very tough time and if everybody just decided to stop mourning because "It doesn't matter anymore" it'd be a massive piss on the memories of those who died.
What I think is so funny is that 11/11/11 was veterans day. Yeah 9/11 was brought in to it a bit, but everyone was thanking vets and such. They added that minute of silence at 11 o'clock just because. People are so thick, just because they added a minute of silence for anyone that lost their lives in the attack and war does not mean it is fucking 9/11 remembrance day.
It's mourned/remembered because it's a recent big event. 10 years is very little for such an event.
It will become less popular either if a bigger event happens or the generation that experienced 9/11 becomes old and dies.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33262249]It's mourned/remembered because it's a recent big event. 10 years is very little for such an event.
It will become less popular either if a bigger event happens or the generation that experienced 9/11 becomes old and dies.[/QUOTE]
Hahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
The only reason 9/11 is such a big event is because it happened in the US and the Media loves to milk these kinds of things for a couple decades. Far worse things have happened and you don't see the whole fucking world talk about that for two months every fucking year do you now?
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;33262282]Hahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
The only reason 9/11 is such a big event is because it happened in the US and the Media loves to milk these kinds of things for a couple decades. Far worse things have happened and you don't see the whole fucking world talk about that for two months every fucking year do you now?[/QUOTE]
This is the dumbest fucking argument I have ever seen.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;33262282]Hahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
The only reason 9/11 is such a big event is because it happened in the US and the Media loves to milk these kinds of things for a couple decades. Far worse things have happened and you don't see the whole fucking world talk about that for two months every fucking year do you now?[/QUOTE]
Why should you care if the US media is "milking it"? You're from the Netherlands, noones forcing you to watch american news channels, read american newspapers, or watch 9/11 remembrance videos.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;33262282]Hahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
The only reason 9/11 is such a big event is because it happened in the US and the Media loves to milk these kinds of things for a couple decades. Far worse things have happened and you don't see the whole fucking world talk about that for two months every fucking year do you now?[/QUOTE]
Whole fucking world? I've yet to hear anyone in latvia mention it. Everyone knows about it but no one except US actually cares. Each country got it's own celebration days.
Couldn't do a skit in my highschool drama class with Abraham Lincoln in it, because it was a "touchy subject."
[QUOTE=Alpha 1-1;33227985]This may be odd, but I've never actually seen anyone mourn WW1. Not sure why.
This may seem heartless, but I never really understood remembering things like this. I dunno, never had any loss in my life, I just don't bother stopping to remember anything like this.
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Also, wow, 13 people are on this thread at the moment of writing this edit. Never thought that people were this active on facepunch.[/QUOTE]
The amount of times you've said, "This may make me cold/heartless/odd" is kind of odd.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;33228835]I'm sorry to say, but if America had minded its own business, 9/11 wouldn't have happened in the first place. Unlike many people blinded by patriotic bullshit, I see the point they were trying to make, they just went about doing it the wrong way.
Let me get this straight. We can invade other countries, rape them of their resources, and that's fine, but the minute someone finally says, "Enough is enough!" they're considered "terrorists." While I never agree with killing innocents, 9/11 happened because the U.S. was occupying areas of the Middle East. Not because terrorists "hate our freedom", not because they're "jealous" (yes, there are people who said they were jealous).
Does that excuse the deaths of over 3000 people, of course not. Those people died doing their day to day routine, not hurting anyone. WTC was chosen because of its strategic business importance. Thousands of successful companies including banks were run out of the complex, and there is one thing Americans cannot live without: Money. In all honesty, it was smart of Bin Laden to attack WTC. Drop a key financial district, kill 3000 people in the process, and completely cripple American's sense of arrogance (for at least a few weeks), I'd say it'd be a success except for that whole "retaliation" thing.
Anyway, 10 years ago the world changed forever. For 10 years, we've been at war, a senseless war. That doesn't mean we simply ignore things and ignore the people who die for us. While the men in suites get to dictate whatever happens, the men in uniform are simply doing their jobs that none of us spineless forum-dwellers ever could. I don't care if your British, American, Canadian, German, etc. It's a global war, everyone suffers. Saying to simply "forget" about 3000 deaths is a bit much to ask. Hell, people are still mourning over Pearl Harbor, and that was nearly 80 years ago.[/QUOTE]
I agree, that's one of the failures of the US. Things will change, although it will take time. It may even take longer than our lifetimes, but things will change.
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