I'm not sure why the video claims it will be uninhabitable for 20,000 years, the exclusion zone's been continuously inhabited since the disaster. About 10,000 elderly residents refused, or were unable to, evacuate. They've dwindled to around 100 now, as they can't get proper care or medication. There's also an effort to reclaim the residential areas for people to live, there was an article about on these forums a few months ago.
Apparently, Vladimir Pravik was the guy who's eye colour changed, but I can't find any source other than the guardian to back this up. Given that there are no sources given in the video I'd be very sceptical of any of these facts.
I did some math and used nukemap
If the explosion was ten times larger than Hiroshima, it wouldn't be that large.
[url]http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?lat=51.3893627023419&lng=30.103522416992178&zm=4&kt=160[/url]
[QUOTE=Griffster26;40747518]I did some math and used nukemap
If the explosion was ten times larger than Hiroshima, it wouldn't be that large.
[url]http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?lat=51.3893627023419&lng=30.103522416992178&zm=4&kt=160[/url][/QUOTE]
So basically it could blow up the entirety of San Francisco.
[QUOTE=Griffster26;40747518]I did some math and used nukemap
If the explosion was ten times larger than Hiroshima, it wouldn't be that large.
[url]http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?lat=51.3893627023419&lng=30.103522416992178&zm=4&kt=160[/url][/QUOTE]
It's the radiation that's gonna be thrown around not the actual explosion that will be the major problem
I'm not sure why people think the explosion claim is ridiculous. "Little Boy", the Hiroshima bomb, was only 16 kt. A 160 kt explosion would barely even touch Central Park if it was detonated in lower Manhattan. One of the bigger nukes in the US arsenal is 340 kt. The Tsar Bomba is 50000 kt.
[QUOTE=PelPix123;40734016]The fungus part is astonishing. If it can quickly normalize the amount of radiation in the area, it makes me wonder if--after humans all die off--there will be no way to tell we were ever there eventually.[/QUOTE]
brass sculptures, you would find brass sculptures
[QUOTE=Foogooman;40747607]I'm not sure why people think the explosion claim is ridiculous. "Little Boy", the Hiroshima bomb, was only 16 kt. A 160 kt explosion would barely even touch Central Park if it was detonated in lower Manhattan. One of the bigger nukes in the US arsenal is 340 kt. The Tsar Bomba is 50000 kt.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how a simple steam explosion can be of such massive proportions.
"The smoldering graphite, fuel and other material above, at more than 1200 °C, started to burn through the reactor floor and mixed with molten concrete from the reactor lining, creating corium, a radioactive semi-liquid material comparable to lava. If this mixture had melted through the floor into the pool of water, it was feared it could have created a serious steam explosion that would have ejected more radioactive material from the reactor. It became necessary to drain the pool." [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Steam_explosion_risk]source[/url]
Does this sound like it could match a nuclear explosion? I think not.
[QUOTE=paul simon;40748371]I don't see how a simple steam explosion can be of such massive proportions.
"The smoldering graphite, fuel and other material above, at more than 1200 °C, started to burn through the reactor floor and mixed with molten concrete from the reactor lining, creating corium, a radioactive semi-liquid material comparable to lava. If this mixture had melted through the floor into the pool of water, it was feared it could have created a serious steam explosion that would have ejected more radioactive material from the reactor. It became necessary to drain the pool." [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Steam_explosion_risk]source[/url]
Does this sound like it could match a nuclear explosion? I think not.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not, but "10x more powerful than hiroshima" isn't that huge of a claim to make - which is what people were initially skeptical of in this thread.
[QUOTE=paul simon;40748371]I don't see how a simple steam explosion can be of such massive proportions.
"The smoldering graphite, fuel and other material above, at more than 1200 °C, started to burn through the reactor floor and mixed with molten concrete from the reactor lining, creating corium, a radioactive semi-liquid material comparable to lava. If this mixture had melted through the floor into the pool of water, it was feared it could have created a serious steam explosion that would have ejected more radioactive material from the reactor. It became necessary to drain the pool." [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Steam_explosion_risk]source[/url]
Does this sound like it could match a nuclear explosion? I think not.[/QUOTE]
because it's not an explosion of steam ya dingus
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"it was feared it could have created a serious steam explosion that would have ejected more radioactive material from the reactor"
the steam explosion would have output more radioactive material, chernobyl had already effected a combined total region 10 times larger than that of hiroshima with particulate drift; i think what they're implying is it would have been more potent
[QUOTE=acpm;40748594]because it's not an explosion of steam ya dingus
[editline]22nd May 2013[/editline]
"it was feared it could have created a serious steam explosion that would have ejected more radioactive material from the reactor"
the steam explosion would have output more radioactive material, chernobyl had already effected a combined total region 10 times larger than that of hiroshima with particulate drift; i think what they're implying is it would have been more potent[/QUOTE]
It's misleading in that it seems to be implying that a nuclear explosion would have occurred.
[sp]Which as we all should know, is not possible[/sp]
That thing with the fungus was cool. I wonder if it could have any medical uses. Maybe splice the radioactive absorbing element into a baby and create radioactively powered people, who would go and live in the exclusion zone and muta-no, wait, never mind, that's a shitty idea.
The reason each worker could only work for about 40 seconds was because after 40 seconds they would have received the amount of radiation a normal person receives in a lifetime, IIRC. A lifetime's worth of radiation in only 40 seconds.
[QUOTE=Falcqn;40748445]Maybe not, but "10x more powerful than hiroshima" isn't that huge of a claim to make - which is what people were initially skeptical of in this thread.[/QUOTE]
Considering that the bomb dropped on Hiroshima is the single most potent weapon used in wartime, then yes, that is a big fucking claim.
that was fucking terribly edited
IIRC the water pools they drained were some flooding that occured under the reactor after the explosion, that got contaminated to hell with radiactive particles
If they hadent prevented there would have been the biggest hydrogen explosion ever seen, it would most likely have removed the entire town off the map and shot the whole lot of radiactive material vaporized into the atmosphere
Not good
[QUOTE=acpm;40748594]because it's not an explosion of steam ya dingus
[editline]22nd May 2013[/editline]
"it was feared it could have created a serious steam explosion that would have ejected more radioactive material from the reactor"
the steam explosion would have output more radioactive material, chernobyl had already effected a combined total region 10 times larger than that of hiroshima with particulate drift; i think what they're implying is it would have been more potent[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and that I understand, but the video presented it as if the explosion itself would be devastatingly huge. Which is wrong.
pretty sure the "the world didnt know about it till it was detected in sweden" isnt 100% true.
The Americans had spy images of the busted reactor the day it went off because they thought a missile had been launched from the heat signature.
[QUOTE=Tobba;40752069]
If they hadent prevented there would have been the biggest hydrogen explosion ever seen, it would probably have removed the entire town off the map and shot the whole lot of radiactive material vaporized into the atmosphere
Not good[/QUOTE]
No. Releasing hot material into water, radioactive or not, doesn't create an H-bomb explosion. It would've created massive a quantity of steam rapidly, which gets released once the pressure causes the tank/building to rupture, which would've launched radioactive material from the reactor into the atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;40752645]No. Releasing hot material into water, radioactive or not, doesn't create an H-bomb explosion. It would've created massive a quantity of steam rapidly, which gets released once the pressure causes the tank/building to rupture, which would've launched radioactive debris into the atmosphere.[/QUOTE]
I never said H-bomb explosion, I said a hydrogen explosion, water undergoes thermal decomposition at extreme temperatures, which explodes pretty badly
[QUOTE=Tobba;40752718]I never said H-bomb explosion, I said a hydrogen explosion, water undergoes thermal decomposition at extreme temperatures, which explodes pretty badly[/QUOTE]
Oh. Though 1200 C isn't enough for that to happen...
Christ, a reading of over 4,000 times greater than what they thought it was.
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