Meanwhile in the liberal & progressive West [NSFWish]

[dai]

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;44574009]I know, that's what I like to think too..

But then comes along a woman who "pops out" eggs full of paint on a canvas to create a representation of splashing patterns determined by gravity n'shit so.. I just can't quite agree with that.[/QUOTE]

if you wanna delve into it she might have been making a weird political statement about how women's bodies are objectified yet treated by society as not more than a vessel to give birth, focusing all that power into the painting produced by the performance

some artists who do 'out-there' stuff will often add to their works by putting some storied power into them in some fashion or another. By adding a pseudo value of events/emotions/blatant political message into something that visibly wouldn't represent anything of the sort, you can sell the art of the performance and invoke the message on a canvas. Whether or not it's deep and meaningful or pandering to rich idiots with false values is up to the creator in most cases, I personally think if you need to write a paragraph and tack that up next to the piece to make it interesting, it's not worth my time as a viewer.

this guy knows what's up though

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY7zD4BcsJc[/media]

[Bobie]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44564745]Why do people do this? It's unappealing and the end result is just bad. These kinda people should start creating good art instead of bad, distasteful art.[/QUOTE]

'good art'

[Mingebox]

[QUOTE=dai;44574085]if you wanna delve into it she might have been making a weird political statement about how women's bodies are objectified yet treated by society as not more than a vessel to give birth, focusing all that power into the painting produced by the performance

some artists who do 'out-there' stuff will often add to their works by putting some storied power into them in some fashion or another. By adding a pseudo value of events/emotions/blatant political message into something that visibly wouldn't represent anything of the sort, you can sell the art of the performance and invoke the message on a canvas. Whether or not it's deep and meaningful or pandering to rich idiots with false values is up to the creator in most cases.

this guy knows what's up

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY7zD4BcsJc[/media][/QUOTE]

This video would be great for a YTP or a Thread Simulator reaction clip.

[dai]

[QUOTE=Mingebox;44574114]This video would be great for a YTP or a Thread Simulator reaction clip.[/QUOTE]

we should just edit in a collection of random images from the deviant art thread onto the canvas, in which he screams and covers them up, eternally locked in torment

alternatively it's a blank canvas and and his scream-paint is used to greenscreen a final image onto it

[Laferio]

[QUOTE=darcy010;44569796]As ridiculous as it is, I don't think it's about the final painting. It's about peoples reactions to it. If it was simply done with a brush no one would notice or care. But because she queefed out paint eggs she's gotten us to analyse and discuss her art piece.[/QUOTE]

Y'know I hear this shit so often it's actually sounding ridiculous. If I'm calling some guy a cunt I'm provoking a reaction, it doesn't mean I'm being artistic it means I'm being an asshole. As to apposed to NOT calling somebody a cunt, I won't be provoking an action, therefor nobody will notice it, and nobody will talk about it.

meaning, doing stupid/crazy shit typically garners people's attention.

[omarfr]

[QUOTE=Wii60;44573591]Performance art - For people who are not artistic and want attention 99% of the time

now if you dont mind im gonna do my next performance art piece, which is shitting in my hand and dropping it 20 stories onto a canvas

[URL="http://gawker.com/gay-art-school-student-to-lose-anal-virginity-in-front-1451749816"]or getting buttfucked in front of my peers[/URL], either one.[/QUOTE]

You know that he didn't actually end up getting buttfucked and it was all a ruse. It ended up being a social commentary on people's relation with theirs and others virginities.

[milkandcooki]

[QUOTE=dai;44574085]if you wanna delve into it she might have been making a weird political statement about how women's bodies are objectified yet treated by society as not more than a vessel to give birth, focusing all that power into the painting produced by the performance

some artists who do 'out-there' stuff will often add to their works by putting some storied power into them in some fashion or another. By adding a pseudo value of events/emotions/blatant political message into something that visibly wouldn't represent anything of the sort, you can sell the art of the performance and invoke the message on a canvas. Whether or not it's deep and meaningful or pandering to rich idiots with false values is up to the creator in most cases, I personally think if you need to write a paragraph and tack that up next to the piece to make it interesting, it's not worth my time as a viewer.

this guy knows what's up though

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY7zD4BcsJc[/media][/QUOTE]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Abramovi%C4%87]Marina Abramović[/url] has done amazing performance pieces based on that concept.

[quote]To test the limits of the relationship between performer and audience, Abramović developed one of her most challenging (and best-known) performances. She assigned a passive role to herself, with the public being the force which would act on her. Abramović placed on a table 72 objects that people were allowed to use (a sign informed them) in any way that they chose. Some of these were objects that could give pleasure, while others could be wielded to inflict pain, or to harm her. Among them were a rose, a feather, honey, a whip, olive oil, scissors, a scalpel, a gun and a single bullet. For six hours the artist allowed the audience members to manipulate her body and actions. It's very important to note that she drew upon her own personal experiences of torture in her home life[citation needed]

Initially, members of the audience reacted with caution and modesty, but as time passed (and the artist remained passive) people began to act more aggressively. As Abramović described it later: “What I learned was that... if you leave it up to the audience, they can kill you.” ... “I felt really violated: they cut up my clothes, stuck rose thorns in my stomach, one person aimed the gun at my head, and another took it away. It created an aggressive atmosphere. After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the audience. Everyone ran away, to escape an actual confrontation[/quote]

[I]anxiety of influence[/I] was another one she did, except she sat at a table staring all day and let people sit there and look back. pretty cool shit.

[Muhpit]

Now do it in reverse!

[Silly Sil]

"I'm gonna do weird stuff with my cunt (preferably in front of many people) that involves paint or poetry, which is completely open to interpretation as there is no actual message and call it artistic and super deep."

Would taking a syringe, putting paint in my urethra and squirting it on a canvas while reciting ode to joy in some obscure language in public and seeing how people react be pretty cool and artistic?

[milkandcooki]

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44574423]"I'm gonna do weird stuff with my cunt (preferably in front of many people) that involves paint or poetry, which is completely open to interpretation as there is no actual message and call it artistic and super deep."

Would taking a syringe, putting paint in my urethra and squirting it on a canvas while reciting ode to joy in some obscure language in public and seeing how people react be pretty cool and artistic?[/QUOTE]

do it and find out

take this as sarcasm or a challenge, works either way

[Rediscover]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44564745]Why do people do this? It's unappealing and the end result is just bad. These kinda people should start creating good art instead of bad, distasteful art.[/QUOTE]

i hope you're aware you just used good, bad, and art in the same sentence

[Bobie]

this art is distasteful why cant people just stick to deviantart and my favourite furry commissions?

[Sobotnik]

i like the sign saying "ART" in the background to reassure us

[omarfr]

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;44574299][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Abramovi%C4%87]Marina Abramović[/url] has done amazing performance pieces based on that concept.

[I]anxiety of influence[/I] was another one she did, except she sat at a table staring all day and let people sit there and look back. pretty cool shit.[/QUOTE]

I love Marina Abramovic she's fucked up in the head.

[Zyler]

My view on the whole idea of there being a 'art versus non-art' spectrum is that, as an idea, art is simply about evoking an emotion in the viewer. I think this works better when the point of the piece is some ostensible main concept, not something totally introspective and foreign that only the artist and their inner circle will actually get. It doesn't necessarily have to have a 'point' or reason in the strictest sense, but the meaning behind the piece should become at least somewhat explicit to the viewer, otherwise how will it have any emotional effect?

There's a video from this contemporary artist that explains this perfectly, but I can't find it. He's this guy who makes really simple sculptures and things such as this little wooden tower made of sticks leaning against the wall and having it's shadow on the 'other side' holding it up. He also made one of those kind of things where it's just a random assortment of household objects lying on the ground, but his stuff actually has meaning unlike things like that piece that was just loads of tissues stuck to a cut out piece of carpet made to look like a teenage girl's bedroom. His pieces try to convey ideas rather than his just his own personal introspection that no one else can get.

Here's a famous modernist Dutch designer called Wim Crouwel (go to 2:56):

[video=youtube;DAsk8Q_dFj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAsk8Q_dFj8&t=2m56s[/video]

He basically represents the other side of this, where things need to have a specific purpose beyond simply conveying an emotion.

[redback3]

Long as you aren't [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Muehl]Otto Muehl[/url] then art can be pretty savvy.

It's people expressing themselves in certain ways - some are brash because that's how you get the attention of people: doing shit that people don't expect. People in this thread who cry for "good art" are more pretensions than the queefing egg woman - what is good art? That's entirely subjective and not your right to say, it's the same as how art critics are dumb as fuck.

Granted some of the way people express themselves artistically are bat shit insane or just stupid but then that's my view of it - one man's trash is another man's treasure and all that.

I also hate people who say "I could've done that" - I said it in the previous art news story: yeah you could've done it but you didn't now did you?

[Kai-ryuu]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44564745]Why do people do this? It's unappealing and the end result is just bad. These kinda people should start creating good art instead of bad, distasteful art.[/QUOTE]

why do i think that this is hilarious coming from you of all people

[.Lain]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44564745]Why do people do this? It's unappealing and the end result is just bad. These kinda people should start creating good art instead of bad, distasteful art.[/QUOTE]
art pro

[Carbisari]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44564745]Why do people do this? It's unappealing and the end result is just bad. These kinda people should start creating good art instead of bad, distasteful art.[/QUOTE]

Too bad art isn't bound by shit you like or crap that is pleasant to look at.

[.Lain]

[QUOTE=Tudd;44571269]Nobody is actually discussing the conflict, human condition, emotions, or finesse commonly associated with art much less the painting itself.

All were discussing is pure shock value or reactions, which is why most modern art sucks and is terrible.[/QUOTE]
if making jumpy, narrow minded people mad is an art then this video is a fucking masterpiece

[CoolKingKaso]

[QUOTE=Wii60;44573591]Performance art - For people who are not artistic and want attention 99% of the time

now if you dont mind im gonna do my next performance art piece, which is shitting in my hand and dropping it 20 stories onto a canvas

[URL="http://gawker.com/gay-art-school-student-to-lose-anal-virginity-in-front-1451749816"]or getting buttfucked in front of my peers[/URL], either one.[/QUOTE]

I've been wondering, what was performance art before this? Broadway/acting? Although the act in the video evokes reaction, it's not really a impressive (or flattering) display of technical skill.

[Kirovich]

lmfao what is going on.

-snip- what I was talking about had been posted and I had not noticed!

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Rex McCoolguy;44573557][video=youtube;I9lmvX00TLY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lmvX00TLY[/video]
DID SOMEBODY SAY ART ?[/QUOTE]

Ah my favorite piece, "Woman Struggles to open can for 2 minutes and attempts to summon a demon"

[Doom64hunter]

Why does art have to be so vulgar nowadays?

[Bobie]

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;44586973]Why does art have to be so vulgar nowadays?[/QUOTE]

do u remember when art was good?

[megafat]

Every time i see modern art like this, it makes me feel like somewhere along the line, person one got told that their interpretation on something was wrong and to spite person two, they created something that had no meaning so when the person came along, they were told their interpretation was wrong and then it somehow got popular.

[Arctic Snow]

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;44586973]Why does art have to be so vulgar nowadays?[/QUOTE]

So you witness one piece of art that originates from 2014, and you proceed to make a generalization on all art made in the contemporary world? Damn man, its like you just dissed every artist on Earth. Please don't base your assumption on ONE piece of art when there are different mediums and genres out there.

[Mingebox]

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;44586973]Why does art have to be so vulgar nowadays?[/QUOTE]

Uh, have you seen the statue of David? You can totally see his willy.

[Doom64hunter]

[QUOTE=Mingebox;44588818]Uh, have you seen the statue of David? You can totally see his willy.[/QUOTE]

It's not the end result that sickens me, it's the way it was created.
The end result of this doesn't suggest anything gross.

[Fatfatfatty]

[QUOTE=Mingebox;44588818]Uh, have you seen the statue of David? You can totally see his willy.[/QUOTE]

It's tasteful unlike this abomination.