The Addicts' Lounge V - What time is it? Time to get high! - General

microdosing acid or shrooms can work real well, for acid try doing 12mcg every 2nd or 3rd day, you can experiment with what does works best for you. Ask around on reddit at /r/microdosing for more info they real helpful there.

Try switching to weed and/or kratom. I heard hey both help with amphetamine cravings

Hey man, there's this one drug called N-Acetylcysteine (usually called NAC) that people are having good results with for addiction suppression. Most success was from studies to aid in kicking coke and nicotine, but I'm pretty certain it'd help with speed cravings. It's a little stimulating on its own too, might help. https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/N-Acetylcysteine Can't make any wild claims but it's defo worth giving it a shot if there's a chance it'd make you more comfortable. Got mine from Amazon, some 600mg caps, 2-3 of those is a strong dose. Sounds like you're doing pretty awesome by stopping for a bit already, a 2 year daily habit is one hell of a monkey, and you're already scaring it. Fuck it up.

Those are valuable tips, thanks guy, already better than my family doctor just saying to quit it. I will first start up by reducing dose. I dont think weed would help much, but that was used to try sleep better, have not smoked on daytime for a long time now, but 1-2 beers works better for that purpose however. Kratom seems to be a good twmporary replacement, but sounds risky getting hooked to it instead. Never heard of Acetylcysteine before, but i will check it out and see if its suitable for me.

Kratom is so mild that I don't think you can get hooked on it. My response to someone having a problem with hard drugs is generally, "gee, maybe you should just try smoking some weed and doing that instead?" Smoke a bowl, get high, and then smoke another bowl. You wont die from it.

Have to disagree here while totally understanding you and wanting to agree with you, having been a hard drug addict its not entirely obvious to you that weed can replace most if not all drugs, especially when it seems comparatively like a "weakpiss" drug compared to say codeine, which I abused, or heroin, which my ex abused, or benzos, which we both abused. It's like how few people understand that strong beer can replace vodka.

Weed has much more powerful and potent effect on me than speed, dont smoke a lot however. But its not quite for the same purpose, downer vs upper

I had no more pills, and dealer said he was out of stock for now, so i said fuck it and went the hardcore way and cold turkey, out of 48h of sleep i was awake for like 2-3h, im probably halfway tru the hardest part, but now people around me is getting pretty worried and now step father will really need my help all weekend long with some construction. Really wished not to buy anymore speed but fuck, it would be better if i do.

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real patricians have mastered the art of doing all three simultaneously

that's just unsanitary, my good man. i once knew a charlatan who praised the soothing benefits of burning a glass bowl whilst stationed upon a ceramic one. ..needless to say the shit he was smoking caught up to him

Took 20 mg 4-HO-MET last night. I expected it to be fairly tame from the descriptions I've heard of it, but it really threw me for a loop. I was convinced my body had turned to a liquid, and when my friend was driving me down the pitch black interstate, I thought my body had accidentally sloshed away and I was just a pair of floating eyes in a car.

just came back from a great lil camping trip with some friends had some great acid, and had shrooms for the first time i think the trip is pretty similar to acid but i like shrooms way more made a lil video to commemorate the experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKNhs8WR15s&feature=youtu.be

As an opiate addict, you're not going to be able to ween yourself by yourself. Everyone says, I'll just take one to get me by, then you get high and it's "one more couldn't hurt" and then ur doing the same thing. If ur gonna ween off you need to give ur shit to a non addict and have them dispense them at a regulated schedule

Finally moving from my hometown ATL to the west coast tomorrow. Family is coming up to help me move so I won't be able to try legal bud for a little bit but I'm psyched. Can't wait to go on all kinds of hikes and shit. Southwest WA is fucking beautiful.

what town, if you don't mind me asking? i know of a lot of really cool places along the coast down there, moreso along the oregon coast but it ain't that long of a drive.

what do you guys think about weed? do you guys think it's more stressful now compared to before to get high? I think I'm starting to realize for real that weed isn't for me anymore. before, it always relaxed me and put me in a state of bliss. no worries at all. though after moving out, doing adult things and having more responsibility in general it has become much more difficult for me to enjoy weed. it turns me into a zombie hippie who can't be bothered to do anything but the simplest of things. it traps me in my head in a bad way unlike psychedelics do and it makes me feel like I'm vegged out. this was nice when I didn't have a lot of responsibilities but now that I do, it only makes me feel like I'm wasting my time as well as ruining the things I want to accomplish. will control goes to zero and I don't care about how much I eat or how long I postpone my chores, I'm simply comfortable with nothing which in turns makes me unhappy since I want more than nothing. what about you guys? I'm curious on what people think of weed as they start to age. I've had a similar talk with a friend of mine about this and while he enjoys it a lot more than me it seems, he also mentioned how he's more worried on it compared to before and how anxious he sometimes gets.

The mediocre high isn't worth the negative effects on motivation/

Well i have reduced the dose since a few days to 3/4 to 1 pills a day, about 1/3 next to what i used to do daily, first day was hard not to snort up more, but it get easier each day, also the tolerance seem to drop fairly quick since the effect feels stronger now, and i wont be zombie this way. But opiates certainly is a way bigger deal then amph/meth pills.

In the beginning smoking was an activity in it of itself. Mostly because it was new and we didn't have a steady supply of it, so when my friends and I got a pickup it was a group activity we looked forward to. Tolerance also played a big role considering when we first smoked we were basically incapacitated laughing for like a good hour and then we would be able to try and play a game or something. But as tolerance and age grew it became the enhancer. Wanna play tf2 while high? Yup. Wanna cook/eat good food while high? Yup. Wanna play ping pong and ultimate frisbee while high? Yuuup. So it turned into: friends come over> go have a smoke> do the activity we planned. Like clockwork. Nowadays though, its still the enhancer but its more like of a relaxing thing. Have a tough day at work and you know you don't have anything you need to do that night? Smoke up, heat up some leftovers, throw on a tv show you're catching up on and have a chill sesh monday night. Funny enough gonna do that today, lol. But I do totally understand the motivation thing. I will avoid smoking if I know I have something to do for the day because I know if I smoke, I will absolutely just procrastinate whatever it is super hard and never get to it. But smoking has kind of become ordinary to me, I smoke more indica strains because it helps relax my body and I'm sensitive to THC. Really strong sativa strains end up making my chest hurt and makes my anxiety worse rather than better. Indica is just the best, I went to a con and used my vape pen and let me tell you that shit saved my feet and back from hurting the entire time. It was like a better tylenol that also made food taste better lol.

To me it started out late teenage, hotboxing in the forest about every day with friends.

i would like to give the award to o-pce for helping to keep me awake and finish this project, even if i've been growling like an animal for the past 4 hours

Must have been one hell of a project 😂

I may have fucked up with adderall. At least, I know it contributed to my stress. I pushed myself very hard and was very stressed out for finals/final papers, very worried about grades and shit. I took excess Adderall to try to produce the best work possible (went through the script at a faster rate than usual because I knew I wouldn't need much for after classes were over). I also got a little ahead on my anxiety meds (gabapentin), leading to post-term stress when I ended up having to stretch what was left. I think the result of this, and sitting in my chair or in classrooms for hours on end with restless legs and slouched posture, has been the awful upper back/neck/shoulder pain I've been experiencing lately. The earliest I could get in to see a doctor was the day after classes ended, and the x-rays showed slightly under-pronounced spinal curvature in the neck and possible pinched nerve. I was prescribed physical therapy, and I'm in my third week (twice a week, escalating exercises, also massage work) of that. Living in pain every day really makes you re-evaluate what you've been doing with your life. You realize that you should value every second that you feel completely relieved, and you should move, and live your life like a healthy monkey because that's what you were meant to do. Every second you are pain free is a blessing that you may not even think about. Anyways, I've been taking 2500mg of Tylenol and 880mg of Aleve spread throughout each day, and occasionally I give myself the gift of some kratom-relief. Other than my dog's extra Tramadol (literally) and that time I smoked black, kratom is the only opioid I've been around recently. Unfortunately, kratom on it's own makes me kinda lethargic, but adderall can help with that. Unfortunately, I think the levo-amphetamine part of adderall contributes to a significant amount of restlessness and general anxiety and peripheral overstimulation that likely exacerbates my muscle pain. Today my dream came true, and my doctor prescribed me dexedrine (10mg IR, twice a day). This is slightly less dextroamphetamine than I was taking (it was 15mg adderall b.i.d., each of which has 11.25mg dex), and eliminates the levoamphetamine altogether. I think my muscles and perhaps brain will thank me. Also, I got a full prescription of gabapentin (which will likely be increased next time, but my psych has a superstition about making two med changes at one time), so that will also help me chill. My recreational usage consists of saving up a bit of extra dex (I don't like to go ahead of time with my scripts, it feels irresponsible), and a bit of extra gabapentin, and buying some kratom and a cannabis indica oil pen (vape). I then speedball on the dex and kratom, with some gabapentin to potentiate the euphoria and help control anxiety and side effects from the stimulant. I smoke the pen and go for walks, feeling like a million bucks and like I can really actually move without pain for the first time in a while. Sometimes I hang out with people and inevitably have a great time, perhaps partaking socially in a little alcohol, nicotine, or caffeine (substances which when overused unfortunately often ultimately lead to anxiety and impaired sleep for me, the alcohol causing anxiety on the hangover rather than while drunk, obviously). It just feels really weird to be in recovery from an injury that wasn't even really an injury, just a lot of stress and eventual long-lasting pain. It also feels weird to actually crave opioids for pain relief. Helps me understand better how many are susceptible to developing addictions in this state. I guess I can't help but feel somewhat responsible for my condition, without some external source or some traumatic event to pin it on, I suppose. Thanks if you read this much of my rambling. I really feel for people dealing with serious chronic pain, tbh. Peace and love everyone.

Anyone have experience with methods of getting quality sleep after dosing vyvanse a bit too late in the day? I'm considering taking 50mg trazodone but I'm really worried that that'll just fuck up my ability to get quality sleep even more which would be a giant problem given that I have to be in as good of a shape as possible tomorrow morning. I took the Vyvanse about ~8 hours ago so I'm not feeling particularly stimulated (thank fuck) but I know that I'd have trouble sleeping given past experiences with the same time window. Any advice?

this has not been the first time i have used dissos to help me through projects, it will not be the last. it is also probably why all of my projects end up being so fuckin weird but eh

I usually smoke some weed or drink ~2 beer or strong alcohol equivalent soon before sleep.

Vancouver, WA.

Megadosing vitamin C + drinking a ton of acidic beverage (as suggested by drug forum broscience) and taking a trazodone knocked me the fuck out, would highly recommend.

Will keep that in mind, and ive heard that some sleeping pill can cause pretty bad effect with amphetamine, probably only on high dose, ive read somewhere, erowid or blue light i think, that someone went nut mixing them both, he had hallucination of bugs in his bed, thousands of them, he ripped open his mattress, and emptied a fire extinguisher on it, crazy shit.