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anyone here got any clue on how neurotoxic amphetamine is? from what I've gathered, amphetamine isn't directly neurotoxic but through indirect means, it does cause some neurotoxicity. to be specific, it seems like amphetamine inhibits a protein called VMAT2 that dopamine neurons use to protect themselves against oxidative stress. other factors, from what I understood, are also body heat and the fact that there's an excessive amount of dopamine going around in the brain. I might be full of shit so hopefully some of you know better than me. it seems like the general consensus is that amphetamine isn't that neurotoxic. however, if you take excessively large doses then you might be putting yourself at risk. how large is a large dose in this scenario though? would it be damaging to take a excessively large dose only once or is the damage more of a slow burn that happens over a span of time?

I know there’s nothing illegal about it, but it’s surreal to see a product that’s so obviously and unabashedly marketed towards recreational teen drug use just being sold on amazon with no issue

I love dxm I'm going to take some dxm thanks facepunch!

What would make a difference with pharmacy bought stuff?

the amount you have to drink. most regular cough syrups have 30mg of dxm in 30ml of fluid, robocough has 30mg in 3ml. one 5 hour energy sized bottle (or 1.6oz) has 450mg of DXM in it as opposed to 350mg in a 4oz bottle.

I see, still even a little bit is very nasty. I wish there was a way to completely nullify the taste.

you could try coating your mouth with peanut butter.

What is DXM like? Because all the trip reports I read just sound scary.

depends on how much you take, moreso than most other drugs. there are 4 distinct plateaus. 1st plateau is pretty similar to drunkeness and a waste of time IMO because of it. second plateau things get a bit more funky, it gets harder to walk and you will probably have some visual distortions: repeating patterns, breathing walls, the like. you start really feeling the diasociatve effects and might start feeling like you're on a waterbed if you lay down. music gets pretty cool, too. third plateau is where it really starts popping off. seeing can get incredibly difficult, not because it blinds you but because it gets hard to process what you're even looking at. if you're in a place you know intimately, you're almost better off navigating with your eyes closed or in total darkness because, at least for me, your brain constructs and projects a crazy-accurate picture of your surroundings, almost akin to night-vision. that is, if you aren't in a hallucination. i find this "seeing through your eyelids" effect is most prominent on the downward swing. laying down, you start to feel everything spinning or moving as though you're floating on a raft on some intense waves. if you go far enough, you might even start to feel like you're falling or getting sucked into a hole. CEVs are extremely common, anything from geometric shapes to full blown hallucinatory states, though you get that more on the 4th plateau. i've had my most intense experiences on high 3rd plateaus, shit like full-seeming worlds forming where i'm a coral-like creature living in an infinite wall of other coral-like creatures, being visited by time-travellers or aliens, floating through space and coming across a massive turtle-like creature that spun the world into existence. i haven't actually done 4th plateau, at least knowingly, though i have a feeling my most intense experiences were probably 4th plateau as opposed to 3rd. it's fun stuff, definitely the dirtiest feeling disso that i have taken, though, probably because of the nausea and that it comes from a shitton of cough syrup.

I'm really surprised that you can buy RoboCough in the US. Not only does it not have Acetaminophen (which pretty much any DXM cough syrups found here contain), but it is on Amazon of all places. No ID required, no limitation for the amount bought, just a straight up, limitless supply of DXM.

you can also buy some cheap gel cap DXM meds on amazon, my go-to before robocough was robafen. i like to look at reviews for cough syrups on amazon and see how people talk about them. some are people legitimately looking for actual cough medicine but most are thinly veiled dexxers.

'3 day C2D, gr8 stealth'

Extracting the ingredient from the syrup (guafisenieanenenan) means for an unlimited amount of joy as well~

It's possible to get DXM powder, I believe you can probably find a source on the clearnet if you look hard enough. As well as from a DNM. My friend got some a while ago, it feels much cleaner than taking a preparation. Nausea is still possible since DXM causes it on its own but not nearly as overwhelming. DXM was definitely one of my drugs of choice. It was easy to get, the euphoria and antidepressant effects derived from it were great, and was a ton of fun with friends. I usually stuck to the first but mostly second plateaus when I wanted to have fun with it. The third and fourth get extremely weird. The highest dose I've taken was about 1200mg, which is 80 gels, it was foolish of me but I was in a bit of a destructive mindset. Reaching the fourth plateau is unnecessary pretty much, the third entails pretty much all the notable effects. The fourth is just too much and not worth it in my opinion. My experiences with the third plateau are not easy to explain. Lots of the time I ended up very confused and scared, not really understanding what was going on. Common thoughts I recall were like being the only person in the universe and how reality shattered. It felt like i was in another dimension. The third plateau is just too overwhelming/scary for me to want to go back. So whenever I do use DXM now it's usually second plateau combined with nitrous which is pretty fun. I don't plan to do it again for a bit though mostly because it requires a lot of free time and nitrous is expensive. The after-effects tend to last up to two days and I don't really like feeling them at work cause it requires physical labor.

Oh yeah for sure, kratom doesn't work so well just due to the amount. Part of the reason I never got into it, really.

isn't it crazy how when we're depressed or when we're in a bad place in life, we neglect ourselves as much as we do? we forget to maintain ourselves, forget to do the things we enjoy and become our own biggest bully. deep inside, all we want is to feel like we belong somewhere, that our lives have meaning and that someone would care. yet we berate ourselves and stop trying. the things we want to do becomes impossible, locked behind a set of bars made out of flimsy excuses. the solution could be right there, and yet it goes ignored. there is no one berating you, no one telling you you can't do it, it is ourselves. we turn against ourselves and sabotage for reasons we can't explain. psychedelics can light the way, light up that dark mental landscape that is now completely unrecognizable. it can help us to see how important the small things in our lives truly are, something we once knew but has since forgotten. it can help show you back to the things you want in your life. it can bring light to who we are as a person and show us a lot of things about ourselves that we deep inside already knew, but had long forgotten. it can also be painful as it can make you conscious of the sort of life you're leading, a life that goes against all your ideals. it can show you so much, but also how deep you've dug yourself. it might hurt and it might be scary, but it really isn't. it is a liberating feeling to be aware of your own shortcomings. to be aware of the mistakes you've made. when you're aware, it is possible to change. when we feel the pain as opposed to apathy, we start to want change. pain is nothing to be feared, it is one of many catalysts of change and should be embraced. I'm on LSD right now and I had forgotten how beautiful this can be. I'm anxious and I'm experiencing pain but it's alright. there is something oddly peaceful to be aware of my psychological pain and accept it. apathy is replaced with something real and that in itself is beautiful.

alternatively you could can also try antidepressants even both if you're on a 2nd generation antidepressant

haha that's true. I've always preferred LSD's "shotgun" approach to mental issues compared to the slow drip that is antidepressants. not a huge fan of taking a pill everyday to help me get through my issues and would rather just have a trip every now and then to reorient myself if needed. maybe that's a bit hypocritical considering they're both a chemical way of doing it, eh. I still prefer the psychedelics

did meth for the first time 'today'. Took 50mg, no tolerance, 12pm-6pm yesterday. didn't redose after 6 pm until finding that apparantly I wouldn't be able to sleep for 17 hours straight; so I smoked 15 mg or I'd risk ruining my schedule. my mistake was redosing up to 50mg total and using an intranasal ROA that leaves a lot of residual stimulation in comparison to smoking. Heartrate shot up to 150 around 3pm yesterday but normalized in minutes to about 120. My standard resting bpm is 98 or so off all drugs so it's not as bad as it sounds. Biggest issue is food, really. I've eaten a multivitamin, magnesium, calcium, fish oil, a taco, a bowl of cereal, two granola bars, and a few handfuls of candy in the last 24 hours. Apologies if this is rather scary to y'all. I also usually stick to psychedelics, weed, dissos, and the like. I'm not too worried considering I'm already on a medication used for meth withdrawal and that I managed to easily avoid redosing for 17 hours. It's pretty much nothing compared to the willpower I required to get off a-php/bath salts.

Well I'm on bupropion and it's a stimulant as well as an antidepressant. I didn't really have to wait for the anti-anxiety effects as the core issue of my depression was feeling tired all the time (it was a feedback loop as depression can cause tiredness and a lack of energy) and the stimulant part instantly fixed that. Then I noticed a slow decrease in my anxiety levels over the next two weeks. I doubt LSD would have been able to help me fix issues that aren't behavioral in nature but actually physical.

I am on prozac and wellbutrin ( I do not take the wellbutrin in conjunction with other stimulants.) I also trip pretty regularly and I'd agree with you. If you have problems in your behavior/situation in life, LSD really does help garner insights on stressful issues. But antidepressants just help you avoid making the mistakes/having the physical states that cause those issues in the first place.

Protip, you can take a small amount of stimulant (like a small coffee) as long as you wait about 6 hours after taking bupropion. Otherwise I get bad stomach cramps.

Oh my god you're so right and I have no idea why I didn't catch that sooner. Thanks. That's really interesting. It might explain why, during aphp binges (a synthetic cathinone but a much more powerful and dopimanergic one) I had symptoms of like, severe overdose when I had polysubstance addiction; as well as symptoms of minor hepatitis. But mainly it explains why coffee has just made me feel completely and utterly terrible in the morning lately.

My psychiatrist literally told me "if you MUST do drugs try to use no more than half the dose you'd normally take" and it's also my own observations that indicated that you should wait at least half a day after taking bupropion if you don't want to feel like you're having a massive overdose of, like, anything.

Mm, that's rather unfortunate for me because I also take Prozac, a drug that reaches high blood concentrations and inhibits the enzyme responsible to metabolizing most stimulants; amplifying their duration/effect. It would make sense that it's probably also been upping the wellbutrin, and that's probably why my resting heartrate averages 98 now. I take them both in the morning. My 'psychiatrist' was a volunteer doctor who was the only one I could get because I lack insurance coverage. This was the exchange: " I went off my meds a while ago. " "What were you on?" "Trintellix and Wellbutrin but trintellix is too expensive so maybe prozac?" "Prozac and wellbutrin it is. " *prints prescription*. Took all of 30 seconds, had no information as to their interactions given. Should probably lower my dose as I only weigh 130; but eh.

job acquired, had orientation today. didn't have to do a drug test but i've been clean for a week or so now. gonna be smoking good tonight, friends.

what kinda job you got

nothing too spectacular, home department clerk at a department store. still, good to get some income again.

Don't worry about it man, as long as you're using it cautiously and responsibly I don't really see an issue. Just don't let addiction creep up on you, and refrain from redosing more than once or twice. Long binges can do a number on your dopamine receptors and you do not want to damage those. I've yet to try it myself, I'm just going off what I've read about using it responsibly. I used to be prescribed Wellbutrin but unfortunately the positive effects I seemed to get from it faded away or were just placebo. A friend of mine had the same issue, going all the way up to the max dosage. However if it works for you that's great! Just don't take recreational doses of drugs that rely heavily on the liver enzyme CYP2D6 such as DXM, or you're going to have a bad time.