The Addicts' Lounge V - What time is it? Time to get high!
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couldnt get hard tonight and feel like wimp
Been thinking about wellbutrin, was diagnosed ADHD as a kid but never medicated. I've recently been put back on desvenlefaxine (similar to effexor) and I find the noradrenaline helpful with getting the energy to focus on my studies and such, I also heavily rely on caffeine. Could wellbutrin be beneficial? (90% sure I have ADD just yet to be re diagnosed)
Just took 300mg of DXM and 2 tabs of ETH-LAD(I took it recently so I doubled my dose due to the instant tolerance so I could get notable effects)
This should be an interesting combo, I'll report back on how it goes.
I need weed bad and don't know anyone here...
oh definitely. antidepressants have their place and I imagine that they're very helpful for those that well, find them helpful. I don't think I fall in that boat myself as most of my problems seem to be behavioral and a lil bit of psychedelics can help straighten me out in some cases. the human mind is a weird thing that needs different solution from person to person
Shit, so I can't robotrip? I wonder if 20mg of prozac is enough to make robotripping unviable. Wellbutrin only lasts a day.
In other news, weed and kratom is quite nice.
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No wellbutrin will have an effect on your system persisting up to two weeks. You can take very small dosages and trip just no recreational.
It is also advised not to use SSRIs while ingesting DXM unless you haven't taken them for two weeks.
i concur weed and kratom are a nice mixture.
How small exactly?
You sure about that? I took meth only a day after stopping (while also on prozac) and I didn't overdose or anything. Prozac and wellbutrin are both inhibitors of the relevant enzyme that degrades meth, and prozac reaches quite high blood concentrations. I wish there was clearer information regarding drug-liver-drug interactions like this so exact dosages for exact regimens could be easily calculated.
I've heard of people claiming to get plateau like experience from therapeutic doses while on Wellbutrin, your mileage may vary. I'd see how 30-60mg treats you and go from there.
Not too sure when it comes to meth and Prozac, I haven't heard of Prozac inhibiting essential drug-related liver enzymes before but haven't researched too much into it. The main interaction problem I know of is potential serotonin syndrome. Besides in the scenario above, Wellbutrin and DXM won't exactly cause an overdose, but the effects will be greatly lengthened potentially the unwanted ones too.
So, it's pententially dangerous because bupropion potentiates the effect of DXM by slowing down the speed at which its metabolized? If I do a really small dose like 30mg as you suggested would that mitigate the risks somewhat?
Yes from what I've read the DXM will stay in your body longer potentially making it more dangerous, especially considered it lasts long regardless.
However yes, a small/therapeutic dose like that should be fine. Just don't jump into higher doses and just feel it out.
Thanks for the advice, you averted a potential disaster on my end.
I'm glad to hear that, while it probably wouldn't have been fatal you'd probably feel like shit/be tripping for several days.
Let me know how the lower doses feel with Wellbutrin if you end up doing it.
Roger that, I'll be doing it very soon. Probably today.
Okay, so instead of rushing in like an idiot I decided to do a bit more research since I've already had some bad trips with DXM.
I've found two threads that seemed the most informative:
300mg Bupropion + 150mg DXM
75mg Bupropion + 60mg DXM
From what I can see, the danger is that it's much more easier to overdose on DXM and the effects seem to be completely proportional to the dose of both medicines.
Otherwise, if you go for a very low dose of DXM it seems like it would mitigate a lot of the potential issues. It almost seems like the "actual" effect of the DXM is a multiplication of the dosage of the two drugs
So considering I'm doing 300mg slow-release Bupropion daily and comparing that dosage to the trip reports I'm thinking that just to be on the safe side I'll do only 9mg of DXM. Does that seem like a good assessment to you guys? There's a good amount of reports that a purely therapeutic dose would have recreational effects.
I've been experimenting with weed again and woot i'm high. I notice that I struggle a lot with letting my guard down while I'm high nowadays. there's this almost muddled filter over my highs that makes me feel more sober, but also brings along tension and anxiety. it also makes activities less enjoyable because I struggle with immersing myself when this huge ass shield is up. I think this is the reason why I've been unable to enjoy weed as much as I'd like the past 8-9 months.
I've also been doing some mindfulness, though not lately. I'm still able to put myself in a mindful state at will for short periods of times. so, that's what I did. instantaneously I got higher, chiller and able to enjoy the music I was listening to. for a short amount of time, being high was exactly like I remembered it from before: dank. unfortunately I find it difficult to maintain a mindful state of mind so it doesn't last long but it's still nice that I'm able to recognize why I liked weed in the first place. right now, I imagine my bad experiences with drugs has made me a bit cautious about unnatural states of mind. my mind is just a bit strung up is all.
now that I'm able to recognize that I'm fighting my highs, hopefully it'll be a bit easier to let go and feel instead of thinking.
sometimes i think that weed is getting too potent these days. i want something i can puff on for a good while and feel chill, not something where i get one hit in before starting to be anxious, know what i mean
Put less weed in? Go for a more indica heavy strain?
@StrawberryClock Nice report. That's the best way to do it too. Like you said better to be disappointed than overwhelmed. I always remind my friends that you can always take more, but you can't 'un-take' something if you've done too much.
At about 12 am, like 7 hours ago, I took 70 micrograms of acid and I feel like I'm coming off of it. I've got work at 4 pm today, should I be sober by then? I know the answer is most likely a yes, but I'm worried and want to make sure. This is the second time I've had acid, and this time was a little over half of what I did last time.
yup, I know exactly what you mean. I want to enjoy my weed like I enjoy a beer. personally I think that I could get much higher and still be comfortable if it had a slower onset so I could get some time to get comfortable with the high. tho with the weed you get nowadays, it's not like beer or wine at all. it's like shotting vodka. I mean, you could still dilute the weed with tobacco, use edibles or use a vape but even then I find it difficult to hit that sweet spot of having it come on slowly enough to not be overwhelming, but also get high enough so that I can enjoy it.
dunno about everyone else, but indica causes more anxiety for me than sativa strains. the physical feeling of being high on indica is what makes me anxious so I prefer sativas. it also slows down my mind to a halt which can be scary if I get stuck in some negative thought patterns
I feel this way too. I used to have no limit when it came to weed in my younger years, but now its easy for me to go overboard and become burdened with anxiety. I think THC content these days is getting a bit ridiculous and should be studied more. Even just a onie of really good shit can put me over the edge. I was in Amsterdam in July, and smoking the mid tier pre-rolls was much nicer personally than rolling and smoking our own heavy indica / sativa strains.
Thankfully, the solution I found was vaping. I got a PAX 3 during their 4/20 sale at a local headshop, and I haven't looked back. If you're looking for a mellow high with a slow onset, I'd recommend a dry herb vape. There are plenty of good ones that are way under the price range of the PAX. They're convenient, not nearly as smelly, able to dose out hits well, and can conserve weed if you use it right. Plus, if you get too high, a vape high usually has a much shorter duration than typical smoking. After vaping, I feel sober and back to normal an hour or two after, depending on the amount, while with smoking I can feel out of it and groggy for 4+ hours.
I always thought indica was supposed to relax you, but like you said it can cause anxiety because of its intense physical effect. For me it makes me focus more on my body since it makes you so lethargic, and it gives me like mild hypochondria sometimes lol. I think a hybrid is the best route personally.
You should be sober but it's the lack of sleep that'll get ya.
Have a feeling I'm going to crash hard somewhat soon sleep wise, and I have a closing-to-opening shift at work tonight.
Acid was great, although the high was a magnitude more intense than last time. Glad that I did it, but probably won't feel that way once the sleep deprivation kicks my ass.
I forgot how informative this thread could be concerning meds for depression/anxiety/chemical imbalance of whatever nature. There's new names and opinions but this thread is home as it ever was. Thanks my dudes
You guys ever have that issue where after taking DXM your digestive system practically shuts down? I've leaned to cure it by eating a good amount of fruit fibers like apples but if I don't do that basically nothing moves down there. It almost became a big issue the first time I did DXM but I was kind of an idiot and ignore my doctors advice to eat lots of fibers.
I have this great mental picture of someone just taking a bite from an apple, putting it down and then picking up another one to bite ad infinitum.
The Addicts' Lounge V - What time is it? Time to get high!
