The Addicts' Lounge V - What time is it? Time to get high! - General

Best to lay off for a while, deal with it sober. Things will turn around, as they always do. I just made the stupid mistake of overspending on weed and now I can't eat this week. I guess I'll just smoke the weed and eat pasta

I almost inhaled a fucking spider dudes. I took a rip out of my bong without changing the water or checking it and there was a daddy long legs chilling in the neck. I tried to help it climb out with a pencil but it was too stoned and it fell and drowned.

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I used to take Vyvanse everyday in my last two years of high school, with no breaks period. Jesus fuck, the anxiety from the drug was terrible, I used to get heart palpitations in class and it amplified my social anxiety, I wouldn't recommend an amphetamine to anybody who's suffering from ADHD unless they need it to function, because the social anxiety was not worth it.

Gonna get baked and drive to Tawharanui Beach today with my gf, then get more baked and eat the picnic ive made and bodyboard those waves. Always good big ones there, super chill beach. I am now living in the CBD of auckland in an apartment, I tell you what its fucking great to not need to Taxi home after clubbing or catch the last bus. I can get super fucked and then just walk home haha

This is something I wanted for a while now; Thanks for sharing m8. https://i.imgur.com/DoltbI6.jpg New background material.

It's not an amphetamine though - it's actually quite different in structure and technically looks a lot more like cocaine chemically. Its effects profile is very different to cocaine though.

/r/LSD has a great list of cool things like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/comments/2u5e22/list_of_cool_sites_to_visit_while_tripping_or/

I wish that list was updated with even more sites, I exhausted them all within a few trips but nice list regardless, plenty of fun when it's still fresh! by the way, any of you have any idea if the supplements on rollsafe.org are able to completely kill any form of hangover or is that unavoidable? I took ALA, ALCAR, vitamin C and magnesium like the dosing schedule wants you to except for the preloading part, I only took them with the MDMA and every hour after up to 7 hours. I've felt fine mood wise but I'm feeling a little slow and I definitely don't have much of an afterglow. also feeling worse than I did yesterday but mostly in a "feeling sick" way. judging by peoples experience that I've read, the supplements should apparently make you feel fresh as heck and kill the hangover completely so I'm a little confused over why I'm feeling sick. could be illness but who knows, I suspect the MDMA.

[quote]You get lost in an ideological graveyard with no compass and no map to show you the way. You become numb to everything because you feel you've seen everything this world has to offer already, and the only thing you've learned along the way is that nothing truly matters and value is attributed by us, not the universe or some inherent authority. Just us. And that's a scary thing to come face to face with.[/quote] This describes much of what I have felt since a trip I had mid 2016. It was a paradigm shift. It taught me many wise things but also revealed things to me I'd rather not have known. Ignorance truly is bliss. I'm moving in a direction to climb out of this pit but that trip put me really far down it.

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Hangovers are unavoidable, I'm afraid.

5-HTP the day after (not with) is the best for MDMA comedowns.

you been travelling much overseas? It gets rid of the feeling youve seen all of what the world has to offer when you constantly get suprised by how fucking strange the world is and how fucked up people can be. I love it, Africa is a great place for just seeing fucked shit youd never have imagined.

I also recommend L-Tyrosine. It's best to have both 5-HTP and L-Tyrosine before as well as after, but Fate is right that the most important aspect for reducing the hangover is having the 5-HTP afterwards. L-Tyrosine helps refill your dopamine stocks whereas 5-HTP is for serotonin. Dopamine takes about 2 days to fully replenish, whereas serotonin stocks take about 2-4 weeks, so the 5-HTP is definitely more important. Magnesium is recommended primarily because it reduces teeth grinding, so I definitely think you should be taking that before, not after the MDMA.

Absolutely fucking not. Combining 5-HTP and any serotonin releaser like MDMA is a very quick way to end up in hospital with Serotonin syndrome.

I hate beeing sick with nothing left to smoke, atleast then I could just get smarked and pass out...

Most people are monkey see, monkey do. I used to be. But in the past few days, I've realized that's our problem. Our fear and hostility spreads from person to person (internet is the best vector for this). People who don't conform to other people's conception of a reality where you have to fight "the enemy" get shot. Look at MLK, Gahndi, JFK, etc. From history's famous assassinations, you can see that people fear a just, loved, peaceful ruler more than they fear the same old same old kind. We are monkey see monkey do because we enforce the idea on our kids that if they don't copy what we do (as their parents, or their society), or what we order them to do, they will starve, end up on the street, and die. I've rejected my desire to copy everyone that I find cool, and instead I've started to build my own identity. If you like any of my ideas or find them cool, you're welcome to steal them for yourself. Life isn't meaningless, unless you just copy other people your whole life instead of learning more about what YOU want to accomplish.

smoke piff every fucking day god damn it or i'm coming to your house and blowing it up with hella dank nugs

Seriously? Shit. I am just repeating advice I read on Bluelight years ago, as I have never tried preloading myself, but I have normally found Bluelight to be a good source - I guess not. :c Sorry for the crap advice then.

Why the fuck are "Norcos" the recreational painkiller of choice in college now? Ignoring how much of a problem that it is that there even is a painkiller popular enough to be the one "of choice", the Acetaminophen in it makes recreational doses possibly seriously dangerous for your liver... Never mind the fact that a lot of people taking them are also usually drinking at least a little.

It's fine up until about 12 hours before if you're low on serotonin beforehand, but taking it close before/with the MDMA is definitely dangerous since it removes the natural limit on serotonin release (Normally you'd run out of serotonin as the MDMA releases it all, but with 5-HTP at the same time you produce it a lot more quickly allowing it to reach dangerous levels in your brain)

I've just done some quick reading on it, and it seems that preloading MDMA with 5-HTP does a similar thing to what taking SSRIs does, in that it significantly dulls the experience, so preloading really doesn't seem worth it. To be clear, I understand what 5-HTP is and how it differs from SSRIs. I will say that what I initially suggested doesn't seem to be stupidly dangerous from my quick reading, but it of course does raise risk of serotonin syndrome as you say, and if it's only going to make the experience shittier, it hardly seems worth it beforehand at all.

5-HTP has never caused serotonin syndrome, it's just considered a potential risk. Still be careful, but there are no documented cases of 5-HTP being associated with serotonin syndrome. I don't think I'd recommend Piracetam, though. It's not like it's some perfectly safe smart drug that'll make all other drugs better or whatever. In some users it'll do the exact opposite of what it's supposed to do and give you memory problems and general brain fog.

It is a better nootropic than others I have tried, just because I didn't find it to have any obvious side effects or psychoactive symptoms. I have also heard about it being a good combination with MDMA before for potentiation, but I don't know how valid the claims are that it improves the experience.

i will never understand the recreational use of pain killers

I didn't want to voice this sentiment at first for fear of offending somebody, but screw it. It's true. If you use painkillers recreationally and weren't hooked on them from a legitimate prescription, you're fucking stupid. Willingly walking into something that insanely addictive and destructive is insanity.

Tea breaks are great and terrible. I feel mentally clean but that good old depression never fails to creep up on me.

Looks like our prayers were answered - there's now a Drugs subforum under GD.

Oh shit we've got our own subforum again!