Any veggies on FP? - General

[QUOTE=D2K5S1;18406040]i love man meat :q:[/QUOTE] This.

[QUOTE=doommarine23;18406148]You know, the reality is that you live or die. Think about that. Your dog doesn't actually love you, it will instantly latch on to the next person who gives them food. Animals care only about themselves, sustaining themselves, and passing on seed. Of course, I'm a man that teeters on both sides of this, so really I can't say for sure. All I know is that my dogs care more about food, than us and that says alot already.[/QUOTE] I actually don't eat meat because I'm bored of it.

[QUOTE=5tolognadriS;18406281]are you for real[/QUOTE] Hitler was a sentimental artist who was a vegetarian and pushed out a law against animal vivisection. Fact.

Your point of view is so warped. There is a difference between being Vegetarian (the one you're aiming for) and Vegan. Vegans eat NO animal products. No meat, eggs, milk or anything. Vegetarians on the other hand eat eggs, drink milk, pasta and other stuff. They just don't touch meat. In my opinion, God made us eaters of meat. People who eat no meat are silly. Hardly any protein. Enjoy being skinny and malnourished.

[QUOTE=Boobookittyfuck;18406125]How is that ironic?[/QUOTE] As a matter of fact it is very ironic. [QUOTE=KingQ8;18406309]In my opinion, God...[/QUOTE] Stopped

[QUOTE=Tape_worm;18406293]I actually don't eat meat because I'm bored of it.[/QUOTE] :confused: oh holy fuck another BEARTATO AVATAR YAY

If we were not meant to eat meat it wouldn't be so tasty. True story.

[QUOTE=KingQ8;18406309]Your point of view is so warped. There is a difference between being Vegetarian (the one you're aiming for) and Vegan. Vegans eat NO animal products. No meat, eggs, milk or anything. Vegetarians on the other hand eat eggs, drink milk, pasta and other stuff. They just don't touch meat. In my opinion, God made us eaters of meat. People who eat no meat are silly. Hardly any protein. Enjoy being skinny and malnourished.[/QUOTE] vegans are weird I mean damn they don't get ANY good shit

[QUOTE=KingQ8;18406309]Your point of view is so warped. There is a difference between being Vegetarian (the one you're aiming for) and Vegan. Vegans eat NO animal products. No meat, eggs, milk or anything. Vegetarians on the other hand eat eggs, drink milk, pasta and other stuff. They just don't touch meat. In my opinion, God made us eaters of meat. People who eat no meat are silly. Hardly any protein. Enjoy being skinny and malnourished.[/QUOTE] We're not skinny and malnourished you ass. Quit treating us all as this stupid stereotype you have. Referring to my vegan family btw.

[QUOTE=KingQ8;18406309] Enjoy being skinny and malnourished.[/QUOTE] Quit saying that, I know vegans and vegitarians who aren't skinny malnourished, or dying a slow painful death from lack of meat.

[QUOTE=Tom-ate-em;18406215]So I MUST eat meat to survive? Just like people positively should not smoke? Or drink to excess? Or do drugs? These are 'detrimental' to people's health, yet they do them anyway, you're saying I'll be malnutritioned and unhealthy by eating a diet of fruit, seeds, nuts, grains and vegetables? That this 'imperfect' diet will be the death of me above all the other threats in life? I wonder, are you a perfect human specimen, at the peak of health that avoids such things? I hope so, otherwise you're a damned hypocrite.[/QUOTE] It won't kill you, the human body is an amazing and resilient organism. Likewise it isn't healthy and is placing entirely unnecessary strain on the human body. I don't smoke, take recreational narcotics, or drink at all. I monitor my diet to generally keep the number of carbs down and the meat intake relatively high. I also try to avoid heavily processed foods, though I'll eat them when necessary. What I cannot get easily in a daily diet, I supplement with basic vitamins.

[QUOTE=NeoDement;18406342]We're not skinny and malnourished you ass. Quit treating us all as this stupid stereotype you have. Referring to my vegan family btw.[/QUOTE] Do you eat meat just because you dislike it, or do you have something against animal cruelty?

[QUOTE=Daolpu;18406328]If we were not meant to eat meat it wouldn't be so tasty. True story.[/QUOTE] Ah! Good sir, any man could follow the same logic to arrive at the conclusion that his indulgences were that of God! For example, my good man, take the instance of your slovenly pedophile. Ask him why he does his filthy acts, and surely as the day, he would respond that CP is tasty! Were good honest fellows to follow this logic then surely we could excuse any act. :monocle:

[QUOTE=Boobookittyfuck;18406265]No he's not, he's making a valid point, a meat included diet is overall healthier than veggies. Not to say not eating meat will make you wither away and sprout pussies all over your body.[/QUOTE] "It's quite simple" "we are omnivores" "detimental to your health" He sure sounds a bit arrogant though, and I can't trust that information, there's figures and facts thrown both ways that meat eaters suffer higher chances of heart disease and cancer etc. or likewise veggies are malnutritioned. The way I see it, the most meat i eat is the odd chicken wrap or sandwich, surely replacing this with an abundance of fruit and veg will be beneficial anyway? Moreso than the likes of my classmates driving off to McDonalds for lunch or gorging their way through packets of gummy sweets and Pringles? As soon as vegitarianism is mentioned, people fly off the handle and are all like, OMG BUT U WONT HAVE NUTRIENTZ when most people don't get them anyway. [QUOTE=GunFox;18406374]It won't kill you, the human body is an amazing and resilient organism. Likewise it isn't healthy and is placing entirely unnecessary strain on the human body. I don't smoke, take recreational narcotics, or drink at all. I monitor my diet to generally keep the number of carbs down and the meat intake relatively high. I also try to avoid heavily processed foods, though I'll eat them when necessary. What I cannot get easily in a daily diet, I supplement with basic vitamins.[/QUOTE] Give this man a trophy! (No sarcasm intented) It obviously satisfies you, and likewise, I'll be satisfied improving my diet and knowing I'm not consuming a product from something that may have suffered.

[QUOTE=GunFox;18406374] I don't smoke, take recreational narcotics, or drink at all. I monitor my diet to generally keep the number of carbs down and the meat intake relatively high. I also try to avoid heavily processed foods, though I'll eat them when necessary. What I cannot get easily in a daily diet, I supplement with basic vitamins.[/QUOTE] What, like, Atkins diet? [editline]03:26PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Tom-ate-em;18406389]"It's quite simple" "we are omnivores" "detimental to your health" He sure sounds a bit arrogant though, and I can't trust that information, there's figures and facts thrown both ways that meat eaters suffer higher chances of heart disease and cancer etc. or likewise veggies are malnutritioned. The way I see it, the most meat i eat is the odd chicken wrap or sandwich, surely replacing this with an abundance of fruit and veg will be beneficial anyway? Moreso than the likes of my classmates driving off to McDonalds for lunch or gorging their way through packets of gummy sweets and Pringles? As soon as vegitarianism is mentioned, people fly off the handle and are all like, OMG BUT U WONT HAVE NUTRIENTZ when most people don't get them anyway.[/QUOTE] Okay, okay, okay, health. To be honest, fish is REALLY good for you.

Cool, more meat for me.

[QUOTE=Tom-ate-em;18406389]"It's quite simple" "we are omnivores" "detimental to your health" He sure sounds a bit arrogant though, and I can't trust that information, there's figures and facts thrown both ways that meat eaters suffer higher chances of heart disease and cancer etc. or likewise veggies are malnutritioned. The way I see it, the most meat i eat is the odd chicken wrap or sandwich, surely replacing this with an abundance of fruit and veg will be beneficial anyway? Moreso than the likes of my classmates driving off to McDonalds for lunch or gorging their way through packets of gummy sweets and Pringles? As soon as vegitarianism is mentioned, people fly off the handle and are all like, OMG BUT U WONT HAVE NUTRIENTZ [b]when most people don't get them anyway.[/b][/QUOTE] Processed food is a poison of today's youth. Deal with it.

[QUOTE=5tolognadriS;18406387]Ah! Good sir, any man could follow the same logic to arrive at the conclusion that his indulgences were that of God! For example, my good man, take the instance of your slovenly pedophile. Ask him why he does his filthy acts, and surely as the day, he would respond that CP is tasty! Were good honest fellows to follow this logic then surely we could excuse any act. :monocle:[/QUOTE] There's a problem with your argument, God isn't real. btw what you said is just plain stupid, meat isn't porn.

I've been listening in on this, and the general assumption is that we have to eat lots of meat to stay healthy. Wrong. Most people end up eating far too much meat, and the excess protein builds up in their gut, which is not nice. As well as that, beans, quorn and other such vegetarian food usually has a higher protein content than most meat. And that Vegetarians are weak, I've been one all my life and are currently the fastest in my year in school. And I got that from exercising.

It's sorta interesting how OP was originally asking for advice, not opening a discussion of whether or not meat is the way to go. Firstly, OP, you should understand the difference between vegetarian and vegan. A vegetarian will eat some animal produced things such as eggs and diary products (In some cases even fish) A vegan has completely cut out anything from animals; eggs, diary products, certain types of candy, etc. There are foods there will be necessary for your well-being, otherwise you may end up very weak and in need of several types of vitamins. Tofu is a very good thing as it will give you many of the nutritions you need. It's made from soy beans -- Which in general should be a regular part of your diet. Another crucial thing for you are mushrooms. I suggest you buy yourself a book so you can go hunt for them yourself as this is cheaper. -- Learn how to conserve them too, as the mushroom season mainly goes on in Autumn. Also potatoes, they are good. If you have a garden or a possibility of this you should really buy some vegetable seeds. Being vegetarian or vegan can end up very expensive depending on where you live. You NEED a balanced and varied diet, and eating an apple and some bananas a day is not going to give you that. Personally I am not vegetarian -- never have been, but I have been raised with a very varied diet so I've been taught many things.

[QUOTE=tankkiller;18406423]There's a problem with your argument, God isn't real.[/QUOTE] But... if you'll take a closer look, governor, you'll see that God's will was the crux of my correspondent's argument, not with mine! :eng101:

[QUOTE=KestasLT;18406381]Do you eat meat just because you dislike it, or do you have something against animal cruelty?[/QUOTE] Both. At first I went along with the whole animal cruelty thing just because I was born into it, but later on, I tried some meat. Bleurgh. It fucked my stomach up much in the way you're describing would happen if I DIDN'T eat meat. Probably because my body isn't used to it and doesn't need to get used to it.

Also, lots of protein will build muscle, but really only if you're lifting weights, and I think that a small percentage of Facepunch users who know stuff about biology do that. I'M NOT SAYING NONE OF YOU DO, SO DON'T YELL AT ME IF YOU DO, I'M JUST SAYING MOST OF YOU.

[QUOTE=Tom-ate-em;18406389]"It's quite simple" "we are omnivores" "detimental to your health" He sure sounds a bit arrogant though, and I can't trust that information, there's figures and facts thrown both ways that meat eaters suffer higher chances of heart disease and cancer etc. or likewise veggies are malnutritioned. The way I see it, the most meat i eat is the odd chicken wrap or sandwich, surely replacing this with an abundance of fruit and veg will be beneficial anyway? Moreso than the likes of my classmates driving off to McDonalds for lunch or gorging their way through packets of gummy sweets and Pringles? As soon as vegitarianism is mentioned, people fly off the handle and are all like, OMG BUT U WONT HAVE NUTRIENTZ when most people don't get them anyway.[/QUOTE] Most folks consume the small amount of meat daily that is necessary to get enough protein to continue living. Otherwise you have to plan every day to make sure you get that. The body can only go so long without getting the proteins it needs. It can only synthesize a limited few.

[QUOTE=5tolognadriS;18406387]Ah! Good sir, any man could follow the same logic to arrive at the conclusion that his indulgences were that of God! For example, my good man, take the instance of your slovenly pedophile. Ask him why he does his filthy acts, and surely as the day, he would respond that CP is tasty! Were good honest fellows to follow this logic then surely we could excuse any act. :monocle:[/QUOTE] Way to totally see the sarcasm in my post there slugger. It's to each their own really. I think meat is tasty and exciting. Others think it is murderous and disgusting. Some people enjoy dressing up in animal suits and parading around in public. It's all a matter of opinion, even if it's far fetched and obscure.

[QUOTE=5tolognadriS;18406321]:confused: oh holy fuck another BEARTATO AVATAR YAY[/QUOTE] Of course! (Intresting fact: it was the first thing I made in my graphical design course (your head asplode)) On topic: OP, a great food tip if you're veggie and want to make your own veggie food (assuming you eat eggs) is simply cooked and salted eggs and tomatoes. Also, tomatoes can even make the driest thing juicy!

A better way to put the "They are going to die anyway" argument, which is incredibly easy to put down. They are going to die anyway, so why not do it in a fashion that helps us, the top of the food chain, and other animals. If they just die, it leaves the corpse and all the problems and benefits of that. However, if we kill them, we can eat them, with no negative impact.

[QUOTE=Treybuchet;18406538]A better way to put the "They are going to die anyway" argument, which is incredibly easy to put down. They are going to die anyway, so why not do it in a fashion that helps us, the top of the food chain, and other animals. If they just die, it leaves the corpse and all the problems and benefits of that. However, if we kill them, we can eat them, with no negative impact.[/QUOTE] The reason they're there in the first place is because we over bred them. there are far too many cows, chicken and pigs in the world, and they're eating into our own food supplies.

[QUOTE=5tolognadriS;18406393]What, like, Atkins diet? [/QUOTE] Similar, yes. Though nothing quite so extreme. It gets expensive fast and is time consuming. Though if you can swing it, you will feel fucking GREAT. So much energy it isn't even funny. Folks with type 2 diabetes can often stop taking their medication entirely while on atkins. It stabilizes your blood sugar level and gives you extremely even power output.

[QUOTE=Kagrs;18406431]It's sorta interesting how OP was originally asking for advice, not opening a discussion of whether or not meat is the way to go. Firstly, OP, you should understand the difference between vegetarian and vegan. A vegetarian will eat some animal produced things such as eggs and diary products (In some cases even fish) A vegan has completely cut out anything from animals; eggs, diary products, certain types of candy, etc. There are foods there will be necessary for your well-being, otherwise you may end up very weak and in need of several types of vitamins. Tofu is a very good thing as it will give you many of the nutritions you need. It's made from soy beans -- Which in general should be a regular part of your diet. Another crucial thing for you are mushrooms. I suggest you buy yourself a book so you can go hunt for them yourself as this is cheaper. -- Learn how to conserve them too, as the mushroom season mainly goes on in Autumn. Also potatoes, they are good. If you have a garden or a possibility of this you should really buy some vegetable seeds. Being vegetarian or vegan can end up very expensive depending on where you live. You NEED a balanced and varied diet, and eating an apple and some bananas a day is not going to give you that. Personally I am not vegetarian -- never have been, but I have been raised with a very varied diet so I've been taught many things.[/QUOTE] I realise the difference between veggies and vegans, and I was simply asking long-term veggies, in a nutshell, if the whole 'free-range, organic' thing is to be trusted, or if, ideally, I should avoid eggs - although preferrably not, because I love pasta and noodles. I don't like mushrooms *shudders at the thought of their texture*, it's one of the few things I dislike D: unless they're disguised. An apple and banana? I enjoy a great assortment of berries! It's just the expense of the damned things.. - ____- [QUOTE=GunFox;18406476]Most folks consume the small amount of meat daily that is necessary to get enough protein to continue living. Otherwise you have to plan every day to make sure you get that. The body can only go so long without getting the proteins it needs. It can only synthesize a limited few.[/QUOTE] Which is why I'll work round it, like everything, it's a learning process to get to grips with something new, besides, I feel it'll broaden my scope of what I can eat (somewhat ironically) - I'll HAVE to look, rather than going for something familiar. FINAL POST This, slightly disappointingly, turned into a meat vs. no meat debate, so I'm off to do other things.