[QUOTE=Ziks;45227819]If I were a god I can't see any reason for me to limit the number of universes I create to just one, if anything I would generate a huge set of universes with different structures and watch them all evolve independently.[/QUOTE]
Do you believe that more than one universe would be more logical?
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;45234921]This is all well and good, but I see no reason to assume these highest level super-structures are not aware of eachother, and their differences. Perhaps not all, but certainly it is feasible that some may be aware of others, perhaps, depending on the nature and complexity of the superstructure, they could also influence eachother. Like a black hole passing by a brown dwarf.[/QUOTE]
But that would be absolutely impossible due to how they are defined. If any medium existed to allow communication between them they wouldn't be highest-level superstructures, the highest-level superstructure would be the union of the "gods" and the communication medium.
If it is in any way possible for information to transfer between two substructures they must be within the same superstructure. If information could be exchanged with a structure outside of the highest-level superstructure it must not be the highest-level superstructure.
[editline]28th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=xZippy;45235343]Do you believe that more than one universe would be more logical?[/QUOTE]
Systems that only produce one of something are extremely rare in nature, what is far more common are systems that generate many instances of whatever they produce. This seems to apply to every level of the observable universe, so I would say it is rational to assume the same applies at at least one level higher.
I do believe.
I've been dealing with this issue and having a huge existentialist crisis over this. I'm an agnostic atheist, but I hope with every fiber of my being that there is a life after death. I don't care if it's heaven, limbo, or the most painful of all hells, I hope its out there. (Of course, heaven would be VERY nice).
Death is my greatest fear, and anytime I think about it, I have a huge crisis over what will end up happening to my consciousness. Will it just go away like before I was born? That seems almost ridiculous to me. Once it's here, how could it NOT be here.
To me, the very fact that I can think at all and was born seems to me to be a great miracle, my fertilization and birth was the greatest thing that will ever EVER happen to me, and truly, every living creature on the planet.
I truly don't believe a god out there would create life if it were not eternal. So if there is a god, there must be an afterlife, otherwise he would be the most cruel creature in existence. But then it remains, what about ants? What about the tapeworms? What about creatures without sentience? I don't think that tapeworms get their own tapeworm heaven, so why should humans?
I'm also struggling with what came BEFORE the big bang. Where did the singularity come from. How did it come into being? I'm struggling with a lot of different things and looking for answers, because I don't want to believe that once I die, that's it, thats the end of my life. It just doesn't seem right. I don't believe in god, but I do believe there is something after we die. There has to be.
I don't understand why there "Has to be" anything afterwords
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45252112]I don't understand why there "Has to be" anything afterwords[/QUOTE]
Because I'm a big scaredy pants.
I'm talking about from my conception of the world, it seems, quite frankly, impossible that this experience of living would end, just as it's impossible that it [i]began[/i].
Nobody remembers their birth, and by the time you're sentient you've already been existing for quite some time.
Perhaps "impossible" isn't the right word then, when what you seem to mean is "subjectively unimaginable".
[QUOTE=Ziks;45253081]Perhaps "impossible" isn't the right word then, when what you seem to mean is "subjectively unimaginable".[/QUOTE]
Yes, thank you.
Urghh, i can't find the words to explain it.
You're the only combination of a brain, to actually feel it's you. To be self-aware. If you let's say reincarnate, you won't feel yourself. You won't be the person that you reincrnated into, you just wouldn't be self-aware. There would be only darkness. But how would we see the darkness? We are dead, our brains are dead? That's where i loose it. My brain can't handle that much of thinking. I don't really know how to explain it. But! There might be a similar combination of a brain, of yours. And you might remember parts of your before life. Too hard to explain. Do you imagine your after life(reincarnation) without knowing who you are now? Yeah, that's pretty hard to think of. I kind of messed up the words, and i couldn't explain it clearly. But that's about reincarnation.
Can't explain it clear without messing up the whole post, so did i.
I believe there is something. I believe the brain is what makes us who we are, but consciousness/awareness itself is something special. Like a switch in the universe has been flipped once we became self-aware and our awareness itself will continue after death, not with our memories but just "us". It's hard to explain that feeling.
The main two things that I dislike about death are the fact that we can't experience what the world creates afterwards. What technology, what entertainment and what experiences and major world events. And the second being the pain and just the uncomfortable event of dying. But I kinda wait it with a certain degree of excitement just to see what lies beyond.
Then again, nobody knows. Maybe we just reincarnate.
-snip- wrong thread again.
[QUOTE=Orkel;46169180]I believe there is something. I believe the brain is what makes us who we are, but consciousness/awareness itself is something special. Like a switch in the universe has been flipped once we became self-aware and our awareness itself will continue after death, not with our memories but just "us". It's hard to explain that feeling.
The main two things that I dislike about death are the fact that we can't experience what the world creates afterwards. What technology, what entertainment and what experiences and major world events. And the second being the pain and just the uncomfortable event of dying. But I kinda wait it with a certain degree of excitement just to see what lies beyond.
Then again, nobody knows. Maybe we just reincarnate.[/QUOTE]
You have pretty wild expectations.. How could we maybe possibly [I]just[/I] reincarnate?
How could we ever tell reincarnation has actually been taking place all along, for as long as living things have existed on the planet?
[editline]9th October 2014[/editline]
And does this only apply to humans, or do you like to think that way?
[QUOTE=Orkel;46169180]I believe there is something. I believe the brain is what makes us who we are, but consciousness/awareness itself is something special. Like a switch in the universe has been flipped once we became self-aware and our awareness itself will continue after death, not with our memories but just "us". It's hard to explain that feeling.
The main two things that I dislike about death are the fact that we can't experience what the world creates afterwards. What technology, what entertainment and what experiences and major world events. And the second being the pain and just the uncomfortable event of dying. But I kinda wait it with a certain degree of excitement just to see what lies beyond.
Then again, nobody knows. Maybe we just reincarnate.[/QUOTE]
But do we still have self-awareness after reincarnation? Like what we were before?
[QUOTE=EmilioGB;46321114]But do we still have self-awareness after reincarnation? Like what we were before?[/QUOTE]
we will be aware of different things. everything we learn as human being on emotional and spiritual level we bring to the next plane of existence as our energy. you will forget your past life, but the karma sticks
i believe death after life
honestly, drugs have completely changed my perspective on life after death. i don't know if there is anything out there after we die, but I do know the brain releases endorphins on death and that it is incredibly powerful. this can potentially dilate time so much that it seems like what is heaven is your brain creating a paradise for your consciousness to live out in effective infinity. i've experienced total external stimulation block off before, and my mind has created wonderful worlds. I believe that at the point of death your consciousness slows down dramatically, causing the time dilation, and allows you to float "forever" in bliss, whatever that may be.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;46357832]honestly, drugs have completely changed my perspective on life after death. i don't know if there is anything out there after we die, but I do know the brain releases endorphins on death and that it is incredibly powerful. this can potentially dilate time so much that it seems like what is heaven is your brain creating a paradise for your consciousness to live out in effective infinity. i've experienced total external stimulation block off before, and my mind has created wonderful worlds. I believe that at the point of death your consciousness slows down dramatically, causing the time dilation, and allows you to float "forever" in bliss, whatever that may be.[/QUOTE]
That's not particularly feasible. For your perception of time to stretch significantly your neurons would have to fire way more rapidly than is possible.
You can get the illusion of extreme time dilation if a psychoactive substance causes memories of experiencing time dilation to be fabricated, without time dilation actually occurring. This illusion only functions if you are able to recollect the experience, something that is quite difficult to do when you are dead.
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