Police Commissioner of the Boston Bombings almost lets the cat out of the bag - General

How would staging a bombing help the government? Will it make us want to make bombs... more illegal? Or go to war with.... Russia... for realsies? There isn't a real end-game for this. [editline]23rd April 2013[/editline] Like, Sandy Hook and gun control is something I could see where people make dumb conspiracy theories, but this is just stupid

"okay guys, we have this immensely important conspiracy running throughout the entirety of the US government, and we've already killed three people and maimed more than a hundred. if this ever got out, we would be finished. so let's detail this entire plan to the mush-mouthed police commissioner for no reason, then put him on one of the largest international news channels we can get. we're the best at conspiracies!"

[QUOTE=Dacheet;40393210]How would staging a bombing help the government? Will it make us want to make bombs... more illegal? Or go to war with.... Russia... for realsies? There isn't a real end-game for this. [editline]23rd April 2013[/editline] Like, Sandy Hook and gun control is something I could see where people make dumb conspiracy theories, but this is just stupid[/QUOTE] russia would fight WITH us if we went to chechnya it would be like setting up a war with fucking kazakhstan.

[QUOTE=Cairn Trenor;40391300]It sounded like a massive correction to me. A believer of this shit is seen as a nut case and a loon, when perhaps these ones are the clever ones that have decided not to think within the hive mind that has become this society. I am not saying by any means your wrong for thinking it isn't a inside job because it very well might NOT be, but try looking at facts, knowledge that has been gathered on it. We'll never know the actual truth tho since the FBI and inside people cover their tracks to good and plus they already have people brain washed. The only reason it's far fetched is because we see it in films all the time, and anything we see in films we see purely as a work of fiction. But this is the real world, and try not to be blinded because once a civil war breaks out over there and they lock down the whole country for marshal law it'll be them that has to realise that the government and puppets that run it may not be all that caring after all.[/QUOTE] I would take any of this seriously if you didn't throw buzzwords and over dramatized phrases all over the place like a 15 year old Sure, the government isn't full of saints and I'm absolutely sure they do the wrong shit to profit some more and perhaps have better crowd control but not everything is a massive conspiracy that " the brainwashed hive mind that is our society, needs to finally wake up to"

do conspiracy theorists think all bad things that happen are a result of the US government? why can bad guys only be working with the FBI and CIA? do bad things only happen as a result of the US government i dont understand

[QUOTE=Cone;40393351]"okay guys, we have this immensely important conspiracy running throughout the entirety of the US government, and we've already killed three people and maimed more than a hundred. if this ever got out, we would be finished. so let's detail this entire plan to the mush-mouthed police commissioner for no reason, then put him on one of the largest international news channels we can get. we're the best at conspiracies!"[/QUOTE] What I find ridiculous about conspiracies is how the government (or whatever shadow organization is perpetuating them) is apparently brilliant enough to orchestrate attacks on a multi-lateral scale (while having the thousands of people involved maintain utter silence about the event) yet are stupid enough to leave a breadcrumb trail that any dude with a computer can see. Personally it's just a different type of superiority complex; I'm smarter than the unwashed, uneducated masses since I see what they either cannot or choose not to. I am a digital warrior hunting for the truth that people refuse to see, against an enemy that openly mocks their mush-brained populace with brazenly obvious evidence of a false flag, etc. Here's a good question for conspiracy theorists; what international incident/national tragedy[I]wasn't[/I] caused by some sinister organization? Because based on what I've seen on too many occasions, every event after 1918 was a result of either the New World Order, Jews, or Police State America.

Metal Gear Solid 4 taught me the truth guys, we're being controlled by four evil computers in the middle of the ocean!!1 [editline]23rd April 2013[/editline] we can only break free when two old men beat each other up on the top of a huge boat

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;40393813] Here's a good question for conspiracy theorists; what international incident/national tragedy[I]wasn't[/I] caused by some sinister organization? Because based on what I've seen on too many occasions, every event after 1918 was a result of either the New World Order, Jews, or Police State America.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure "Black Rambo" Dorner wasn't planned.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;40393813] every event after 1918 was a result of either the New World Order, Jews, or Police State America.[/QUOTE] Dammit, you caught us. WWII was actually a play carried out by millions of hologram reptilian actors.

[QUOTE=Dacheet;40395107]Dammit, you caught us. WWII was actually a play carried out by millions of hologram reptilian actors.[/QUOTE] Silly Dacheet, you're forgetting that WW2 was started by Germany defending itself against Jewish bankers who declared war against Germany, ruining it's economy and trying to bring it into the Rothschild hegemony! Not to mention it was the Allies that started WW2 by declaring war on Germany after the Reich started to retake Polish land stolen from it during the Treaty of Versailles (if the Allies didn't want war they could've just chosen not to declare it, after all.) The invasion of France and Battle of Britain were preventative measures to make sure innocent German civilians weren't killed by cowardly Allied attacks! Oh, and Operation Barbarossa was another preventative attack because Stalin was intending on launching a full-on invasion into Europe to spread his evil Soviet influence.

Hey conspiracy theory OP guy, how about you use the evidence presented to you to make a conclusion, instead of having a bullshit unrealistic terrible conclusion that stretches evidence to make yourself seem right. "He didn't say there [I]wasn't[/I] a cake in that cardboard box, so it must be a cake!!!"

My formatting got messed up for some reason, one moment please. [QUOTE=Dacheet;40393210]How would staging a bombing help the government? Will it make us want to make bombs... more illegal? Or go to war with.... Russia... for realsies? There isn't a real end-game for this. [editline]23rd April 2013[/editline] Like, Sandy Hook and gun control is something I could see where people make dumb conspiracy theories, but this is just stupid[/QUOTE] If we were to analyze a number of possible reasons when it comes to conspiracies: To further instill hatred towards the Middle East, and to continue pushing the propaganda for the war on terror. To do what a terrorist act is supposed to do, cause terror and fear in order to make the population more easily manipulated, and to help the establishment of political agendas by overpowering the democratic system through raw emotional panic. Someone else mentioned this earlier, but it could have also been hypothetically done to establish friendly relations with Russia, and to bond with it. And more importantly, the majority of these conspiracies do not require some type of a global shadow government, or an elite, they require a relatively small secretive organization, and significantly less resources than one would originally assume. You honestly do not need much to destroy a system if you know its weak-points, people keep thinking that you need a nuclear explosion, while in reality you just need a correctly aimed slingshot pebble. All that would be necessary is to secretly persuade two completely real Islamic extremists to detonate bunch of bombs in a populated part of Boston and then watch the relatively sheltered American society lose its mind over it, there is really nothing else to it. You do not need control of the media, you do not need control of the government, and you do not need control of the police force, you just need two eager trained extremists, how difficult would that honestly be? I do not reject nor fully support this possibility, I simply do not ignore it.

[QUOTE=genkaz92;40395588]To further instill hatred towards the Middle East, and to continue pushing the propaganda for the war on terror. [/QUOTE] Chechnya isn't in the Middle-East, it's in the south end of Western Russia, in Eastern Europe.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40396006]Chechnya isn't in the Middle-East, it's in the south end of Western Russia, in Eastern Europe.[/QUOTE] I am quite familiar with that, but it does not change the fact of this being related to Islam, and as a result also to Middle East, although I do agree that I should have phrased it in a better manner. Let's instead say: "To instill hatred towards Islam."

so if these guys are so smart and tech savvy why do they dress really suspicious and carry out actions in front of the cameras and etc and stay in the country? and have you seen the reaction videos of the loved ones?

[QUOTE=Super Muffin;40391337]Yeah guys, a conspiracy that requires complete silence and cooperation from witnesses, police, politicians, EMT's, soldiers, the national guard, and the local private security firms is going to be totally unraveled because one guy said "actors" on tv! IT'S ALL A LIE YOUR GOVERNMENT IS LYING TO YOU MAJESTIC 12 MONOPOLIES!!! Just stop. It would be impossible for this to be faked.[/QUOTE] no it wouldn't. it would need silence on the part of the police commissioner, the fbi, the executive branch, and whatever other parties would be involved. i mean assuming it was an inside job of course(it wasn't). [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] also my conspiracy theorist "buddies" have said that they did the bombing to cover up cispa, which got easily passed since no media attention was on it.

I was expecting this video to be of a commissioner letting a literal cat out of an bag

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40396177]no it wouldn't. it would need silence on the part of the police commissioner, the fbi, the executive branch, and whatever other parties would be involved. i mean assuming it was an inside job of course(it wasn't). [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] also my conspiracy theorist "buddies" have said that they did the bombing to cover up cispa, which got easily passed since no media attention was on it.[/QUOTE] I was actually going to mention this as well, it is an extremely powerful diversion tactic for pretty much anything, including a hypothetical undercover operation in Boston, whatever that could have been.

[QUOTE=genkaz92;40396569]I was actually going to mention this as well, it is an extremely powerful diversion tactic for pretty much anything, including a hypothetical undercover operation in Boston, whatever that could have been.[/QUOTE] it passed the fucking house the house passes crazy shit all the time do they plan on blowing up boston again when its up for vote at the senate

[QUOTE=Cats meow;40390868]wake up sheeple[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc5wkQm6B44[/media] We all know 9/11 was staged to get Zero Dark Thirty a nomination for an Oscar. Open your eyes, people.

[QUOTE=genkaz92;40396048]I am quite familiar with that, but it does not change the fact of this being related to Islam, and as a result also to Middle East, although I do agree that I should have phrased it in a better manner. Let's instead say: "To instill hatred towards Islam."[/QUOTE] Just like Christianity is limited to Europe? [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] America is now in Europe. We are West Western Europe.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40397116]Just like Christianity is limited to Europe? [editline]24th April 2013[/editline] America is now in Europe. We are West Western Europe.[/QUOTE] Actually no, I agreed with you by saying that I did not phrase it in the best possible way, I mostly mentioned the fact that it could be connected to Middle East due to it having a most prominent Islamic involvement.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;40396627]it passed the fucking house the house passes crazy shit all the time do they plan on blowing up boston again when its up for vote at the senate[/QUOTE] you might see very convenient coverage of the upcoming trial and aftermath of the boston bombings on the news instead of hearing about cispa. i'm not even a conspiracy theorist, but the government is very adept at taking tragedy and turning it for their benefit. i mean look at how the government used 9/11 to justify their "war on terror" that gives them free reign to assassinate pretty much whoever they fucking want.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40397315]you might see very convenient coverage of the upcoming trial and aftermath of the boston bombings on the news instead of hearing about cispa. i'm not even a conspiracy theorist, but the government is very adept at taking tragedy and turning it for their benefit. i mean look at how the government used 9/11 to justify their "war on terror" that gives them free reign to assassinate pretty much whoever they fucking want.[/QUOTE] Well what you described is psyops, which unlike the conspiracy theories is real and doesn't require a convoluted scheme to happen. If you want a possible example of psyops then you can look at the whole situation with North Korea and how most of the public pretty much outright dismisses any threat North Korea might pose.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKkEmQrVZT0[/media] This guy totally ain't reliable, he's just an ex FBI chief

[QUOTE=Valnar;40397516]Well what you described is psyops, which unlike the conspiracy theories is real and doesn't require a convoluted scheme to happen. If you want a possible example of psyops then you can look at the whole situation with North Korea and how most of the public pretty much outright dismisses any threat North Korea might pose.[/QUOTE] They quite literally have nothing to lose, and they could go on absolutely any atrocities regardless of regulations, easily including chemical and biological warfare. Let us also not forget that while their current verbal threats may not be making everyone shake in fear, they could probably employ some extremely effective psychological warfare later on, also ignoring any conventions or laws.

[QUOTE=tittles650;40396112]so if these guys are so smart and tech savvy why do they dress really suspicious and carry out actions in front of the cameras and etc and stay in the country? and have you seen the reaction videos of the loved ones?[/QUOTE] Because they already know you are all blinded. They could cut someone up and have it on video, smear in his blood '' we are liars '' and you'd still be backing them. You think they are here for your safety? if that is what makes you fall asleep at night then so be it. And don't be such an idiot, if they were good enough to use actors for the bombings and prosthetic legs and no one knows anything about it, how hard for them would it be to find actors for the ''families'' or people that have nothing to do with the victims but pose as ''families''

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40397116] America is now in Europe. We are West Western Europe.[/QUOTE] That's just utterly ridiculous! We're in West India, would the Dutch lie? [QUOTE=Zenreon117;40397525][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKkEmQrVZT0[/media] This guy totally ain't reliable, he's just an ex FBI chief[/QUOTE] [quote]He also claimed that a "slave auction" in which children were sold to men in turbans had been held in Las Vegas, that four thousand ritual human sacrifices are performed in New York City every year, and that the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was carried out by the US government. Gunderson believed that in the US there is a secret widespread network of groups who kidnap children and infants, and subject them to Satanic ritual abuse and subsequent human sacrifice.[/quote] Yeah, totally reliable.

I'm glad they replayed the whole thing ten times in slow motion, I would never have picked up on it.