Facepunch Writing Competition? - General

[QUOTE=-Dazed-;23665622]I would surely enter. You should have multiple categories, as well. I think that those other, lesser skilled writers should have a chance to win something. So having a 'Shitfunny Stories' section would be interesting. Number of categories would surely depend on the depths of the kind sponsors' pockets, but I'll list a few I think should exist anywho: - Fantasy Fiction - Science Fiction - Fiction (historical or present) - Non-fiction (might be interesting...) - Satire - Plays - Shitfunny Stories[/QUOTE] That's rather constraining. A better idea would be to select a theme (e.g. "Grief" or "Society") and let people submit their piece in any genre they wish

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;23666514]33 pages[/QUOTE] Jesus boyo, think of the poor judges! I'm thinking that a rule will have entries written during the contest, to ensure a level playing field. Story length should be defined by category. I want to say 3,000 words max for a short story, and maybe up to 10,000 for a novella. The duration will probably be about a week, so no grand epics, probably. We should emphasise quality over quantity. I mean, My Immortal hit 24 chapters, and that's not quite what we're looking for. [editline]09:33PM[/editline] Also, new request, a bigger banner that says this: The First Official Grand Struggle for Literary Excellence in the Field of Words and the Writing Thereof for the Entertainment and Education of Facepunch Resident Scholars and Gentlemen [editline]09:34PM[/editline] The title may be a work in progress.

I think this is an excellent idea. Be sure to update the OP with a deadline, a maximum length (I'd recommend no more than 1,500 words for short stories), and any other pertinent information. As you get stories, you may consider linking directly to the post from the OP in a name:title format. Ex. [URL="http://www.nogoddamnfuckingstoryhere.com"]Big Dumb American: [u]My Motherfucking Goddamn Short Story[/u][/URL] I'll be entering, yo. [editline]03:41PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Nigey Nige;23666915]The First Official Grand Struggle for Literary Excellence in the Field of Words and the Writing Thereof for the Entertainment and Education of Facepunch Resident Scholars and Gentlemen[/QUOTE] I do not like this title.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;23665073]I have written a few short stories. This is one I wrote and I wanted to see what you thought of it: [URL]http://pleasegodno.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/the-fermi-paradox/[/URL] Do I have a future? :saddowns:[/QUOTE] Not trying to sound patronising, but that's actually really good. I love and write sci-fi like that. Great short story mate :)

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I've got a horror short story I could submit, it's partially unfinished and approx ~25 pages long. By partially unfinished I mean that the basic plot is all written, but I'm planning on revising it multiple times over. it's been well over two years since I've touched it though so who knows

My immortal was 44 actually i believe. And i think ill go in for a judge, Maybe ill get a good read.

i shold do this im very god at writng

Also, I would highly recommend submitting your stories with [URL="http://www.docs.google.com"]GoogleDocs[/URL]. It offers many of the same formatting tools as Microsoft Word, and allows you to link directly to your story. This should make for neater submissions.

[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;23666824]That's rather constraining. A better idea would be to select a theme (e.g. "Grief" or "Society") and let people submit their piece in any genre they wish[/QUOTE] I disagree. Themes are more restrictive because they don't give a person a chance to excel in their particular genre of interest. For example, you've got to be fucking Dave Barry to turn certain topics like War into a valuable piece of comedy. Some themes are just weighted in favor of a particular genre. Besides, it's hard enough to judge stories within genres against each other, it's even harder to compare cross genre. There's no way the judges will be able to judge each and every genre against each other without bias.

-snip- [editline]10:05PM[/editline] [IMG_thumb]http://ooft.net/upload/6618184m.png[/IMG_thumb] A british mad man offers his judgement!

[QUOTE=-Dazed-;23667580]I disagree. Themes are more restrictive because they don't give a person a chance to excel in their particular genre of interest. For example, you've got to be fucking Dave Barry to turn certain topics like War into a valuable piece of comedy. Some themes are just weighted in favor of a particular genre. Besides, it's hard enough to judge stories within genres against each other, it's even harder to compare cross genre. There's no way the judges will be able to judge each and every genre against each other without bias.[/QUOTE] I think having one particular theme/genre is a bad idea. While adaptability is important for any writer, I don't think that anybody would argue that a man's best writing is done when he's passionate about the subject at hand. Perhaps in later contests, should there be later contests, you can impose challenges such as themes/genres, but for this I feel that each writer should have complete creative freedom with the work he submits. This will maximize the number of potential entrants and also ensure that you're getting the very best that each writer has to offer. You'll want a diverse panel of judges, as it's going to be very hard for each man to remain objective in his judgement. Somebody who prefers science fiction over drama will be more likely to throw his vote to the story of an asteroid miner battling invading aliens rather than giving a somber, emotional piece it's fair share of consideration. Having a diverse and plentiful panel of judges should ensure that each submission gets its fair review.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;23668156]I think having one particular theme/genre is a bad idea. While adaptability is important for any writer, I don't think that anybody would argue that a man's best writing is done when he's passionate about the subject at hand. Perhaps in later contests, should there be later contests, you can impose challenges such as themes/genres, but for this I feel that each writer should have complete creative freedom with the work he submits. This will maximize the number of potential entrants and also ensure that you're getting the very best that each entrant has to offer.[/QUOTE] Pretty much, but we need to categorize entries somehow for the sake of comparison. We won't find a winner if we have to compare a comedy against a drama. That's why we need a variety of genres that people can enter in to. We should include a majority of genres in the competition and then remove/merge genres that don't have enough entrants. Or, to avoid disappointing entrants, we should do what I originally suggested. A small set of common genres, and each genre will have its own theme. I know people want unlimited freedom in their entries, but that simply isn't possible if you want fair competition.

Okay, what do we think of this: Short story format, must be under 3000 words. If anyone goes over the limit, the judge is not required to continue reading. Going over 3000 words is a risk, but if you can hold the judge's attention it is a risk worth taking. Theme to be revealed on the day the contest starts. Entries should be written during the week of the contest, not before (although we can't prove anything, it's just sporting). Accolades include 1st, 2nd and Runner-up prizes, with decreasing value on Steam, along with any honourable mentions and the Tara Gilesbie award for Outstanding Poor Quality. Stories will be judged on the following attributes: [B]Spelling and Grammar[/B] We are less likely to be immersed in your writing if spelling mistakes yank us out of the experience. Proofread! [B]Characters[/B] See [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI]this[/url] youtube video for info on how to create good characters (skip to 7:00). Shite dialogue will lose you points. Read it aloud! [B]Setting[/B] Imagery, metaphors, description. How you paint a picture of your world with words, and all that gay stuff. [B]Originality[/B] In both the words you use and the ideas you portray. Comments?

[QUOTE=Nigey Nige;23668439]Short story format, must be under 3000 words. If anyone goes over the limit, the judge is not required to continue reading. Going over 3000 words is a risk, but if you can hold the judge's attention it is a risk worth taking.[/quote] I like this. [QUOTE=Nigey Nige;23668439]Theme to be revealed on the day the contest starts. Entries should be written during the week of the contest, not before (although we can't prove anything, it's just sporting).[/quote] Fair enough, I guess I'll just stick with judging rather than waiting it out to see what the theme is. And when will this contest be taking place, then? Also, could all the judges possibly find some efficient way to communicate with each other (i.e. Skype, Steam, etc.) so we can go in depth about the rubric and all determine how to most fairly judge to give the best overall evaluation as a group?

I'll be a judge :cop: [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6092109/cop.png[/IMG]

Sounds like a good idea, I'll join in. Writing's what I'm good at.

[QUOTE=Nigey Nige;23668439]Okay, what do we think of this: Short story format, must be under 3000 words. If anyone goes over the limit, the judge is not required to continue reading. Going over 3000 words is a risk, but if you can hold the judge's attention it is a risk worth taking. Theme to be revealed on the day the contest starts. Entries should be written during the week of the contest, not before (although we can't prove anything, it's just sporting). Accolades include 1st, 2nd and Runner-up prizes, with decreasing value on Steam, along with any honourable mentions and the Tara Gilesbie award for Outstanding Poor Quality. Stories will be judged on the following attributes: [B]Spelling and Grammar[/B] We are less likely to be immersed in your writing if spelling mistakes yank us out of the experience. Proofread! [B]Characters[/B] See [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI]this[/url] youtube video for info on how to create good characters (skip to 7:00). Shite dialogue will lose you points. Read it aloud! [B]Setting[/B] Imagery, metaphors, description. How you paint a picture of your world with words, and all that gay stuff. [B]Originality[/B] In both the words you use and the ideas you portray. Comments?[/QUOTE] I've only two suggestions: Firstly, leave the theme to the writer. And second, reduce the word-limit. I would strongly recommend a 1500 word limit, or at most, a 2000 word limit. Having a tighter limit leads to a tighter story. Writers are challenged with being more descriptive in less words, and this leads to richer, better-planned stories. I've given my reasoning for both these suggestions, and hope you'll take them into consideration. Should you not, no big deal, but I can't promise that I'll participate if the theme turns out to be "Asteroid mining colony is under attack from aliens!" I think forcing a theme to this contest is going to considerably reduce your number of applicants.

[QUOTE=Nigey Nige;23668439]Comments?[/QUOTE] To make prizes worth winning we should try and give the winner as much freedom as possible. Perhaps something where 1st place can choose any prize under $x.xx, whereas 2nd and 3rd have to settle for a preset prize of $x.xx. OR, 1st can choose any prize less than $x.xx, 2nd can choose any prize less than $x.xx, and third can choose any prize less than $x.xx. Suggested prize values might be 40/20/10, or 20/10/5. Especially since you can definitely find great games in any prize range. Like the commandos series, each of those games only costs a dollar or two. [editline]04:38PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;23668629]My only suggestion would be to reduce the word-limit. I would strongly recommend a 1500 word limit, or at most, a 2000 word limit. Having a tighter limit leads to a tighter story. Writers are challenged with being more descriptive in less words, and this leads to richer, better-planned stories. It's just my opinion, but 3000 words is much more than anybody should need to create an immersive and entertaining short story.[/QUOTE] Precisely. 300 words is about a page in and of itself. A competitive short story is commonly written in 3000 words, but those are usually very professional competitions. I'd recommend keeping it shorter for the sake of the judges. Also, limits are casually very strict. When they say 3000 words max they mean max, I don't mean anything by that information, just thought it might interest you.

Okay, I'm getting in touch with the judges now, to sort out prizes, a theme and specific rules. If you have anything at all to contribute - donations, ideas or if you want to be a judge then just post in the thread. The competition thread will go up as soon as we've finalised everything.

Also, regarding judges. I'd like to see some professionalism in this area. Judges should have a collaborative discussion preferably in a vent server when deciding the final winners.

[QUOTE=-Dazed-;23668814]Also, regarding judges. I'd like to see some professionalism in this area. Judges should have a collaborative discussion preferably in a vent server when deciding the final winners.[/QUOTE] Agreed. Discussion on Steam for now.

This sounds fun and I love writing. Only reason I don't write a lot is because I don't have the motivation to do so but this will definitely motivate me.

I made a new banner if you want to use it. [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6092109/banner.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Fenriswolf;23669032]I made a new banner if you want to use it. [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6092109/banner.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Nice, man! I think [img]http://wiki.garrysmod.com/images/thumb/e/e3/Facepunch.png/48px-Facepunch.png[/img]ust about everybody will en[img]http://wiki.garrysmod.com/images/thumb/e/e3/Facepunch.png/48px-Facepunch.png[/img]oy this contest!

I see what you did there, and I like it. [editline]10:18PM[/editline] I have an old Battlefield 2142 key if that would work as a prize?

[QUOTE=-Dazed-;23668814]Also, regarding judges. I'd like to see some professionalism in this area. Judges should have a collaborative discussion preferably in a vent server when deciding the final winners.[/QUOTE] Possibly they link to a transcript so people can examine the judges' reactions?

Did someone say writing competiotion? Eye catching picture you say? [IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img293/1263/eyerape.png[/IMG] [editline]12:47AM[/editline] Fuck it, if you need prizes then I have these pretty much screaming to be passed on: [B]Keys available:[/B] -Sniper Elite -Operartion Flashpoint- Cold War Crisis -Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood -Universe at War -Defcon -COD2 -SWAT4 and SWAT4 : The Stetchkov Syndecate expansion -Farcry [B]Games available for sending for a GREAT STORY, I'm not sending stuff overseas if it is shitty: [/B]-White Label: Star Trek- Starfleet Academy 5/6 disc Edition in the dual DVD style case -Command and Conquer: Red Alert (yes I know its freeware now) in ORIGINAL large cardboard box containing Game CDs, large manual, hotkey/unit card, game registration card, and sales card. (Slight rip on corner joint of box lid) -Theif Deadly Shadows -SW:KOTOR 2 -IL2 Sturmovic -SW:JK- JA -Dead Space (PS3-Barely used) -Resistance 2 (PS3) -Far Cry 2 (PS3) (Only a maybe) -Many DOS/Win95 games that I cannot list at the moment. Not all of this list, maybe a key or two a competition, a sent game for a great entry. Also I may be willing to do on-steam money based prizes if I have money. Just glad to be of service. Those among you partial to gifting may recognise this list. When is the first competition likely to start?

Can't wait for this contest to start. Only thing that concerns me is a length limit. When I sit down to write a short story, it ends up as... well, my 33-pager, [i]The Wretched Empire[/i], was going to originally be a ten-page short story, but I got too immersed in the world I created. I haven't even introduced all the key characters I had already planned out, let alone begin on quest I've outlined. :v: I honestly don't think I can do a 3,000 word limit. How many pages is that, roughly, in Microsoft Word? (single spaced, 12-type Times New Roman). Oh well, I guess this will be good practice for me, on writing a concise, short story. I only hope I can finish it in the space and time allotted.

there was a sploogey bird it flapped unto the air all the other birds had said it naught deserve its hair so once the birds decided to rob it of its galore and raped it in the bumhoel til the bird's arse was no more THE END