• Why the New Ghostbusters Movie is Already Bad
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I get a feeling a lot of criticism this movie gets will be deflected with "you just hate it because its an all female cast" I really wish that wasn't the case because I actually wouldn't mind a female ghost busters at all if it wasn't [I]this[/I] big of a cashgrab also can we please please please stop making reboots/remakes of old things I miss original content and while I love seeing some of my favorite old things get today's quality of production put into them it usually just turns into either edgy shit or a rushed piece of shit made to make money off people's nostalgia
[QUOTE=Digivee;49896855]oh fuck, I accidentally uploaded this on international womens day :v:[/QUOTE] oh you're fucked now boy you're fucked hide
[QUOTE=PelPix123;49899277]why does the black girl in female ensemble cast movies always have to be dumb? Because that's like, not racist at all, right?[/QUOTE] But in the great hierarchy of pandering to morons, feminism is more important than any racist perception of an individual.
[QUOTE=mini me;49898748]The CGI is fine..get the feeling you take a shot at it merely because its CGI Ghosts look pretty damn good[/QUOTE] They look average and kind of boring, unimaginative. It's not just CGI I don't think, it's the overall design.
[QUOTE=mini me;49898748]The CGI is fine..get the feeling you take a shot at it merely because its CGI Ghosts look pretty damn good Agree with everything else though..they are pretty much the only good thing in the whole film[/QUOTE] The thing with CG, if you can tell it was done in a computer, it distracts the audience and takes away from the scene. I dont hate CGI as a whole. Hell, I have plans to become a 3D animator in the future. Theres good CG in movies. Then theres bad. There are some shots that the CG does compliment, like the large carnival ghost walking over the protagonists, that was a really creative and nice shot. Its just disappointing when the CG is done cheaply to maximize profit.
[QUOTE=TheCactusman;49898657]While I agree that it's completely confusing, they're just pandering to fans of the franchise with that bit at the start.[/QUOTE] But that sets it up to be a sequel because it's pretty much acknowledging that they've done it before. If it was a reboot, they wouldn't mention it at all. Is this some parallel universe where the crew were women and unfunny?
i'm sorry but melissa mcarthy/kristen wig are seriously just not funny to me as comedians, not even on snl did i ever find them funny their humor has always been more or less "do an accent and do a ridiculous face" they're the youtube thumbnails of comedians
[QUOTE=KingKombat;49899492]i'm sorry but melissa mcarthy/kristen wig are seriously just not funny to me as comedians, not even on snl did i ever find them funny their humor has always been more or less "do an accent and do a ridiculous face" they're the youtube thumbnails of comedians[/QUOTE] + stereotypical loud crazy black woman = HUMOUR HAHAHAHA
[QUOTE=KingKombat;49899492]i'm sorry but melissa mcarthy/kristen wig are seriously just not funny to me as comedians, not even on snl did i ever find them funny their humor has always been more or less "do an accent and do a ridiculous face" they're the youtube thumbnails of comedians[/QUOTE] melissa mccarthy is bad but kristen wiig is great. 'welcome to me' gave me newfound respect for her
The cast makes me hurt on different levels, especially Mccarthy. I mean come on the feminism thing and everything makes this so hard to bear.
[QUOTE=psychofox67;49896745]I'm still baffled on how this got green lit[/QUOTE] It's like when they found Steven Avery guilty
[QUOTE=Digivee;49899340]The thing with CG, if you can tell it was done in a computer, it distracts the audience and takes away from the scene. I dont hate CGI as a whole. Hell, I have plans to become a 3D animator in the future. Theres good CG in movies. Then theres bad. There are some shots that the CG does compliment, like the large carnival ghost walking over the protagonists, that was a really creative and nice shot. Its just disappointing when the CG is done cheaply to maximize profit.[/QUOTE] CGI works tremendously as long as it's used for backdrops and essentially anything that the actors don't directly interact with.
The real reason why this sucks is because there is no effort to be Ghostbusters. Not because it's the all-female lead for one thing, it's that the people they choose are the most cookie cutter comedy actresses you can think of on top of awful overused cliches. Melissa Maccarthy plays Melissa Maccarthy, Leslie Jones plays the screaming black woman in New York, Kristen Wiig is the awkward uni nerd that's supposed to be Egon but fails, and Kate is fun and flirtatious woman who again is supposed be Bill Murray's character Peter. Th original actors were never comedians to begin with(except Bill Murray), in fact Ghostbusters didn't have enough humor to be called a comedy imo. It was a just a fun adventure 80's film with humor sprinkled here and there that happens to be very quotable. This is just a dumb spin on a popular franchise with nothing to do but bring all of the quote/unquote "Funniest people on TV" into the big screen together with bottom of the barrel humor.
I fucking hate Melissa McCarthy. The way she talks, the movies she stars in, the same goddamn role she plays in every movie, I hate it.
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;49900536]The real reason why this sucks is because there is no effort to be Ghostbusters. Not because it's the all-female lead for one thing, it's that the people they choose are the most cookie cutter comedy actresses you can think of on top of awful overused cliches. Melissa Maccarthy plays Melissa Maccarthy, Leslie Jones plays the screaming black woman in New York, Kristen Wiig is the awkward uni nerd that's supposed to be Egon but fails, and Kate is fun and flirtatious woman who again is supposed be Bill Murray's character Peter. Th original actors were never comedians to begin with(except Bill Murray), in fact Ghostbusters didn't have enough humor to be called a comedy imo. It was a just a fun adventure 80's film with humor sprinkled here and there that happens to be very quotable. This is just a dumb spin on a popular franchise with nothing to do but bring all of the quote/unquote "Funniest people on TV" into the big screen together with bottom of the barrel humor.[/QUOTE] Harold Ramis and Dan Aykroyd not comedians? Both of them are alumni of National Lampoon and Saturday Night Live, respectively, same as Bill Murray.
I first watched the trailer when Maddox posted about it, I genuinely couldn't believe they actually sat down and wrote the line "no-one is better at quantum physics than you".. As if quantum physics is like, playing a guitar or something. Yeah, girl! You're soooo good at quantum physics! It's just the most unnatural, weird, obvious "explain it to the audience" way of establishing her importance to the story lol, it's like they're not even trying. [editline]10th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Gray Altoid;49900760]I fucking hate Melissa McCarthy. The way she talks, the movies she stars in, the same goddamn role she plays in every movie, I hate it.[/QUOTE] Fat lady fall down, fat lady go boom. Audience laugh, audience clap! Love when fat lady go boom.
I still don't understand. Why make the whole main cast women? Are they literally trying hard to appeal to to a female audience? Why not have two men, two women. Even three men and one woman is alright and Vice Versa. I also have criticism on how the film is presented. It honestly looks like it just revolves around shitty, awkward jokes. The trailer makes the film look like dogshit without even trying.
[QUOTE=ChronoBlade;49904614]I still don't understand. Why make the whole main cast women? .[/QUOTE] I don't really see a problem there. I mean there's already all sorts of primarily male casts. I think it's a better idea to have a full female cast, than to throw in token diversity males/females, when in reality an all female or male group of friends/colleagues isn't a bizarre thing. It's not like ethnicity where intentionally including or discluding people is just bigotry. Movie looks pretty bad though.
in the international trailer it seems to be taking the piss out of the fact that there are woman leads. I don't know, but that's the feeling I got from it.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;49900760]I fucking hate Melissa McCarthy. The way she talks, the movies she stars in, the same goddamn role she plays in every movie, I hate it.[/QUOTE] She's actually pretty decent in serious roles. She was great in St. Vincent.
I don't really care about them being women. I care about this just being painfully unfunny from the trailer; it's like Sandler tier comedy movie.
Imagine if we got a sequel where the current surviving ghostbusters cast come together to fight Egon's ghost from trying to do evil ghosty things like build an army with zhuul and vigo and invade reality. It'd be great because he would know what they do to catch ghosts and since he was also the one who invented a lot of the theories and technology behind their ghost-sucky proton emitter gun thingies, it could potentially be very interesting.
[QUOTE=dark-vivec;49904648]I don't really see a problem there. I mean there's already all sorts of primarily male casts. I think it's a better idea to have a full female cast, than to throw in token diversity males/females, when in reality an all female or male group of friends/colleagues isn't a bizarre thing. It's not like ethnicity where intentionally including or discluding people is just bigotry. Movie looks pretty bad though.[/QUOTE] He asked 'why', not, 'is an all female team something that could feasibly happen in real life.' The point was that it's an all-female team to generate controversy and force itself as a symbol.
[QUOTE=Digivee;49896579]Criticism is welcome.[/QUOTE] I never say the original ghostbusters movie so I'm not going to touch the opinions of the video, just everything else. Editing is good. Voicing was generally average for a person. You didn't sound confident at all when talking, which causes the interest of people to fade. The impressions were not enjoyable. Right off the bat you spent too much time reading that "Baby-Men" article. You should've stopped at the first paragraph because everyone got the point by then. Humor was not that good. That deportation joke didn't really make that much sense, because the punch line was just "Donald Trump wants to deport people." or "Deport people for their bad opinions." That "I treat everyone equally no matter if they have a pussy or a dong" didn't hit well either. Maybe it's the tone of your voice but it came off as creepy more than funny because you just wanted to say pussy and dong. [B]Throughout the video, I noticed that a lot of the punchlines were delivered fast and flat which diminished the humor of it completely. This was the biggest problem.[/B] I noticed before the closing music that you were trying to copy mr plinkett's review style. I seriously wish I could go in depth about how the plinkett reviews but I don't have the time to list every reason why it works so well. You need to work on the timing of your jokes, the quality of your jokes, and how those jokes are presented using your voice.
I couldn't care less about the female cast shit, I just hate the movie because it's another fucking sequel/reboot. Come up with something original already Hollywood.
CC Clean up the audio. Some pops with your voice, dunno what was going on. Don't add that grey border and then shrink the clips. You now have your own grey border and the clip is wide screen so it has black borders on the top and bottom. Its distracting and bad.
This film does look shit but one thing is bothering me: Stop claiming the 80's Ghostbusters isn't a comedy. It's a obviously a comedy. It's a comedy with horror elements mixed into it, it's hilarious from start to finish and it was written by Harold Ramis for fucks sake. It stars three of the biggest comedians of the 80's, every other line is a joke. Criticising 2016 Ghostbusters because 'it's a comedy' is just wrong. You can criticise it on so many other things.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;49909776]This film does look shit but one thing is bothering me: Stop claiming the 80's Ghostbusters isn't a comedy. It's a obviously a comedy. It's a comedy with horror elements mixed into it, it's hilarious from start to finish and it was written by Harold Ramis for fucks sake. It stars three of the biggest comedians of the 80's, every other line is a joke. Criticising 2016 Ghostbusters because 'it's a comedy' is just wrong. You can criticise it on so many other things.[/QUOTE] The difference between comedy films these days and comedy films in the 80s is that now the writers feel like they need people to be laughing their asses off the entire time, so the films all have forced, aggressive humour which is usually loud and obviously meant to be funny. The original Ghostbusters was a comedy film, but it was a subtle comedy film, it didn't have anyone screaming lines that are "Lol so funny" because it was written with the idea that the audience would be adults who don't laugh just because they heard a loud noise. When Peter Venkman says that Peck has no dick, that isn't the film making a joke for the audience to laugh at, it's Peter Venkman making a joke to express his opinion of Peck. It's in character and it makes sense. What person would tackle their friend, slap them, and scream "The power of patty compels you!"? No one would see their friend being possessed as an opportunity to make a shitty reference to The Exorcist.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;49909776]This film does look shit but one thing is bothering me: Stop claiming the 80's Ghostbusters isn't a comedy. It's a obviously a comedy. It's a comedy with horror elements mixed into it, it's hilarious from start to finish and it was written by Harold Ramis for fucks sake. It stars three of the biggest comedians of the 80's, every other line is a joke. Criticising 2016 Ghostbusters because 'it's a comedy' is just wrong. You can criticise it on so many other things.[/QUOTE] It's not that the original movie was not a comedy. It's that the new one is a [I]2016[/I] comedy. Remember Grown Ups? It's going to be like that but with ghosts.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;49909776]This film does look shit but one thing is bothering me: Stop claiming the 80's Ghostbusters isn't a comedy. It's a obviously a comedy. It's a comedy with horror elements mixed into it, it's hilarious from start to finish and it was written by Harold Ramis for fucks sake. It stars three of the biggest comedians of the 80's, every other line is a joke. Criticising 2016 Ghostbusters because 'it's a comedy' is just wrong. You can criticise it on so many other things.[/QUOTE] The term "comedy" when associated with movies has taken a really demeaning turn in recent times because the prevalent kind of comedies you'd see in theaters basically just bombard the audience with the same clichés and tired jokes, hoping to get at least a chuckle from the viewers once in the whole thing. It's kind of the same deal with horror movies. It used to mean something good but then originality just vanished and every movie started doing the same thing to a such a stupid extent that you could practically superimpose them and have the same scenes appear at the same time, over and over again.
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