Listening to Music With Headphones is the Greatest Way To Experience Music.
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[QUOTE=AK'z;31918617]you've just ruined your headphones.[/QUOTE]
I don't really understand this 'burn-in' time everyone keeps talking about. All my stuff gets 'burned-in' eventually because I just use my headphones.
[QUOTE=monotonous15;31918709]I don't really understand this 'burn-in' time everyone keeps talking about. All my stuff gets 'burned-in' eventually because I just use my headphones.[/QUOTE]
Well that's the point I made but oh well. :)
yeah but im probably going to be using them more later in the year so i want them to be at their peak of performance. im probably not going to keep it going, though, im very pleased with their current state and i can just use music to continue the burning in
[QUOTE=AK'z;31918759]Well that's the point I made but oh well. :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah it sounds like a troll technique that perhaps audiophiles came up with.
[QUOTE=Big Blue;31918770]yeah but im probably going to be using them more later in the year so i want them to be at their peak of performance. im probably not going to keep it going, though, im very pleased with their current state and i can just use music to continue the burning in[/QUOTE]
I'm just curious since I've no clue what this burn-in is or whatever (I mean I understand what its SUPPOSED to do but not how it could actually work....) but can you actually notice a difference (ie improvement) from a burn-in? If so is the difference very significant or could it be so insignificant that its more like a 'placebo-effect'?
id say its relatively significant, but ive heard the image s4's need 70-100 hours burn-in to be at their peak so im not sure. the bass definitely sounds much better and the music seems to be even clearer(which is amazing). im not a huge audiophile which is why i cant really go into details, but its kind of a 'see for yourself' experience. i have heard from many different people that these earbuds need to be burned in to really show their true abilities, and i can say i believe it. the sound is only getting better. also if you already have earbuds youve been using for a pretty long time(months) burn-in is most likely not necessary, but yeah really it just takes a bit of googling to find out if its right for you
[QUOTE=Big Blue;31919115]id say its relatively significant, but ive heard the image s4's need 70-100 hours burn-in to be at their peak so im not sure. the bass definitely sounds much better and the music seems to be even clearer(which is amazing). im not a huge audiophile which is why i cant really go into details, but its kind of a 'see for yourself' experience. i have heard from many different people that these earbuds need to be burned in to really show their true abilities, and i can say i believe it. the sound is only getting better. also if you already have earbuds youve been using for a pretty long time(months) burn-in is most likely not necessary, but yeah really it just takes a bit of googling to find out if its right for you[/QUOTE]
Oh so burn-in may be headphone-model specific? I know some EQs have built-in pink noise gens for tweaking a room setup (see my BLR eq in a previous post). I never use it because... well I just don't (you need a microphone and I don't have one). But yeah never heard about the headphone thing until now. That is interesting.
[QUOTE=Schmoe222;28346136]Live performances are the best way to hear music.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87JjVupVtb4[/media]
True story.
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first song i listened to because its great and has an insane bass drop. i really think the earbuds developed a lot in the time i had them burning in, they sound great[/QUOTE]
Sounds good :p
[QUOTE=monotonous15;31918824]Yeah it sounds like a troll technique that perhaps audiophiles came up with.
I'm just curious since I've no clue what this burn-in is or whatever (I mean I understand what its SUPPOSED to do but not how it could actually work....) but can you actually notice a difference (ie improvement) from a burn-in? If so is the difference very significant or could it be so insignificant that its more like a 'placebo-effect'?[/QUOTE]
It makes sense. At the most basic forms headphones are speakers, when they leave the factory the cones are rigid and as such oppose the movement of the waves they're producing. Burning-in softens up the cones and allows them to push the frequencies closer to how they're intended to be heard.
Burning-in is recommended for everything from earbuds to guitar cabinets
[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;31941451]It makes sense. At the most basic forms headphones are speakers, when they leave the factory the cones are rigid and as such oppose the movement of the waves they're producing. Burning-in softens up the cones and allows them to push the frequencies closer to how they're intended to be heard.
Burning-in is recommended for everything from earbuds to guitar cabinets[/QUOTE]
That 'sounds good' and all but as a scientist myself I always am skeptical without any evidence (so please take no offense because I mean none whatsoever). Googling real quick brought this up with a conclusion that stated "burn-in" was likely 'insignificant'.
[URL="http://headphonebreakin.blogspot.com/"]http://headphonebreakin.blogspot.com/[/URL]
To be perfectly honest I haven't read the whole thing yet (will look into this more later when I have more time). Scroll to bottom for conclusion. I'll keep an eye on this thread for sure if anyone has any input.
My evidence is experience with guitar cabinets and my own Grados. Both of them took a decent amount of time for the speakers to settle in, and I've had experience with cabs including swapping speakers out and the same thing happens, it takes time for them to settle in which rules out the possibility of the cab itself being the variable.
Feel free to continue as a skeptic, I'm simply relaying my experiences :)
It's a psychological phenomenon too. Your brain adapts to the new sound signature over time and appreciate it more.
Bass got more refined for RE272. Previously it was not much impressive.
A lot depends upon the perfect seal too. Bi-flanges sacrifice over bass but the sound gets more airy and clear. Olives typically enhance bass but at the cost of clarity.
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Well, this was pointless
[QUOTE=CoolCorky;36608874]Well, this was pointless[/QUOTE]
true, but still relevant bump.
[QUOTE=CoolCorky;36608874]Well, this was pointless[/QUOTE]
Not exactly, I guess we can talk about headphones now?
I'm currently saving up for some Audio Technica ATH-AD700's, eye am excite!
i found some skullcandy earbuds last year
dems gud
Sennheiser ftw
I've had my sennheisers for years.. they're starting to wear out. The padding i mean, they still sound brand new. Probably even better than new since they feel "burned in" since then. When you first get headphones, know they don't sound as good unless you let them breathe music for a few months.
get on the ball
(i agree with the OP)
tbh best way to do it is to get big enough speakers so the ball of sound is fifty feet across or so.
let some kid at work borrow my headphones, forgot to get them back now i'm kind of blown i have to wait till work again to get them back
[QUOTE=AK'z;36734260]I've had my sennheisers for years.. they're starting to wear out. The padding i mean, they still sound brand new. Probably even better than new since they feel "burned in" since then. When you first get headphones, know they don't sound as good unless you let them breathe music for a few months.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like audiophile nonsense to me. Is there a science behind this 'burning in'?
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Also the problem with headphones is that the bass notes are basically ghost frequencies or something, you're brain imagines certain frequencies because the headphones are only capable of going so low. With a good stereo system you can feel much lower frequencies in the ground which adds a lot to electronic music in particular.
[QUOTE=CheeserCrice;36750885]Sounds like audiophile nonsense to me. Is there a science behind this 'burning in'?
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Also the problem with headphones is that the bass notes are basically [B]ghost frequencies[/B] or something, you're brain imagines certain frequencies because the headphones are only capable of going so low. With a good stereo system you can feel much lower frequencies in the ground which adds a lot to electronic music in particular.[/QUOTE]
You tell me I'm talking audiophile nonsense.
You could easily have said good subwoofers make you feel the bass more.
As for the headphones sounding better over time, I think a lot of people will agree with me. There's no scientific principal behind it because it's purely opinion based, there's no scientific explanation to what people enjoy.
[QUOTE=PuppetSeagull;36733520]Sennheiser ftw[/QUOTE]
I've been using these HD201s for months. The sound is pretty weak on them so I use my speakers' amp to boost them
basssss
[QUOTE=AK'z;36750944]You tell me I'm talking audiophile nonsense.
You could easily have said good subwoofers make you feel the bass more.
As for the headphones sounding better over time, I think a lot of people will agree with me. There's no scientific principal behind it because it's purely opinion based, there's no scientific explanation to what people enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Besides the use of the word ghost its true tho, you imagine frequencies that aren't being produced on headphones as they lack the full range of a good speaker system.
[QUOTE=CheeserCrice;36755266]Besides the use of the word ghost its true tho, you imagine frequencies that aren't being produced on headphones as they lack the full range of a good speaker system.[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly sure headphones produce a more "accurate" sound than speakers, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=AK'z;36755670]I'm fairly sure headphones produce a more "accurate" sound than speakers, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
I think you're right, its much crisper and clean, basically how the musician intended it. However it is still a little compressed so to speak.
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