Morality is stupid - General

I love how that book "Lord of the flies" reflects how fucking evil we all naturally are

[QUOTE=The Epidemic;18076317]No. Some people kill others because they JUST DON'T LIKE THEM. Sometimes husbands kill their wives because they're tired of nagging. Sometimes people hire hitmen to kill other people. Sometimes gang wars will come up and people will kill eachother for their possessions Sometimes robbers or muggers will kill their victims There are LOADS of reasons one would kill that don't involve morality. [editline]10:41AM[/editline] Actually the whole 'killing because of morality' is a bit rare.[/QUOTE] You obviously don't know shit about the human brain. That doesn't happen unless the person is able to convince themselves that the person is in a way less human than them. How many times have you killed someone because you don't like them? [quote]Haha. Are you trolling? [/quote] Anyone who speaks truth is a troll now?

. . . . none BECAUSE THERE'S MORALITY There's lots of people that I'd love to kill. But if I get the chance to (as in I won't get in trouble) I still wouldn't do it BECAUSE OF MORALITY. ------------------ [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=836146[/url]

[QUOTE=The Epidemic;18076389]. . . . none BECAUSE THERE'S MORALITY There's lots of people that I'd love to kill. But if I get the chance to (as in I won't get in trouble) I still wouldn't do it BECAUSE OF MORALITY. ------------------ [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=836146[/url][/QUOTE] So the only reason you don't kill someone is because of a certain way you were raised? That means you have a lot of very important wires missing in your brain and you should probably see a psychologist.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076406]So the only reason you don't kill someone is because of a certain way you were raised? That means you have a lot of very important wires missing in your brain and you should probably see a psychologist.[/QUOTE] I don't think it took morals for Cain to slay his brother. It was becuase of jealousy.

You dont need a book to see how evil humans are.

[QUOTE=Craptasket;18076418]I don't think it took morals for Cain to slay his brother. It becuase of jealousy.[/QUOTE] It took a lot of misplaced screws in his brain. [quote]You dont need a book to see how evil humans are. [/quote] Individuals aren't evil, groups of people together become evil.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076428] Individuals aren't evil, groups of people together become evil.[/QUOTE] Hitler --> Nazi Germany

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076406]So the only reason you don't kill someone is because of a certain way you were raised? That means you have a lot of very important wires missing in your brain and you should probably see a psychologist.[/QUOTE] Oh come on. I know you're lying if you're saying that you never wanted to hurt someone? The reason that I don't do it is because of empathy, MORALITY(think of the families, friends and all the sadness), The law etc. It is in the human nature to hurt other people, just look at the cavemen. They were clobbering eachother to death. Humans havent evolved that much.. You see it everyday: "Man killed by jelous friend because of girlfriend" "Rich celebrity shot" and so on.

[QUOTE=Craptasket;18076437]Hitler --> Nazi Germany[/QUOTE] Hitler would have had no power if he didn't know how to control the instincts of people when they became grouped together. [quote]The reason that I don't do it is because of empathy, MORALITY(think of the families, friends and all the sadness)[/quote] That isn't morality, again, those are things wired into our head.

Ok OP, stop posting You're just trolling, I know it

[QUOTE=Craptasket;18076468]Ok OP, stop posting You're just trolling, I know it[/QUOTE] I think you're the troll.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076480]I think you're the troll.[/QUOTE] I think you believe too much in your own belief you're rejecting the facts

[QUOTE=Craptasket;18076495]I think you believe too much in your own belief you're rejecting the facts[/QUOTE] What facts? I've refuted all your facts.

maybe if I try actually trolling you and make you mad you'd want to kill me

[QUOTE=Craptasket;18076501]maybe if I try actually trolling you and make you mad you'd want to kill me[/QUOTE] No I'm pretty zen-like most of the time. I don't think I've ever seriously considered hurting someone who hasn't actually physically tried to hurt me.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076498]What facts? I've refuted all your facts.[/QUOTE] No you didn't you just reworded the same thing over and over again. [editline]11:10AM[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;18076523]No I'm pretty zen-like most of the time. I don't think I've ever seriously considered hurting someone who hasn't actually physically tried to hurt me.[/QUOTE] Well guess what. EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.

[QUOTE=The Epidemic;18076525] Well guess what. EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.[/QUOTE] No, because someone who actually seriously considers hurting another has something wrong with them. Ask a damn psychologist.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076558]No, because someone who actually seriously considers hurting another has something wrong with them. Ask a damn psychologist.[/QUOTE] No, you don't consider it. You just want to do it but you don't out of sympathy, pity, or feeling apologetic. Like if he died some other way (accident or something) you wouldn't care. And I thought [I]you[/I] were a psycologist, what with that 'You Don't Know Shit About the Human Brain' remark. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076558]No, because someone who actually seriously considers hurting another has something wrong with them. Ask a damn psychologist.[/QUOTE] Those guys are there to tame you, everyone has the tick in their head to kill someone. Why? becuase it's old instinct, early human function. Does it come out and control you every now and then, yes becuase it's what you are. Ask a damn psychologist

No one's forcing morality on you, so why have an opinion?

[QUOTE=The Epidemic;18076582]No, you don't consider it. You just want to do it but you don't out of sympathy, pity, or feeling apologetic. Like if he died some other way (accident or something) you wouldn't care. And I thought [I]you[/I] were a psycologist, what with that 'You Don't Know Shit About the Human Brain' remark. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] I'm not a certified psychologist, but I read up on it because it's interesting. Anyways, you just agreed with me, no one actually considers it unless they have screws missing. Just about everyone has their own little fantasies about that dude who flipped him off on the bus being eaten by a giant sea monster(I have), it keeps us going. The difference is a certain line where it goes from a fantasy to something you actually begin to consider. [quote]No one's forcing morality on you, so why have an opinion? [/quote] Society and Politicans love to try and force their morality on you. Their power has begun to get weaker, however, which makes me happy. And asking a person why they have an opinion on something(even if it doesn't directly apply to them) is a silly thing. This is a message board, where we discuss our opinions on things.

A Mcdonads worker in a 3rd world country slaughters entire staff crew A Doctor thinks about the idea on murdering his assistant nurse becuase she's a 'bitch' but he knows better Sometimes it's the way you're raised, educated, and morally laid out. That "becuase people are missing screws in their head" is bullshit Stop denying everyone doesn't have the ability to kill without reason, we all, Even you, have the capability to tame it completely

[QUOTE=Craptasket;18076637]A Mcdonads worker in a 3rd world country slaughters entire staff crew A Doctor thinks about the idea on murdering his assistant nurse becuase she's a 'bitch' but he knows better Sometimes it's the way you're raised, educated, and morally laid out. That "becuase people are missing screws in their head" is bullshit Stop denying everyone doesn't have the ability to kill without reason, we all, Even you, have the capability to tame it completely[/QUOTE] That's where we are going to disagree no matter what. You think it's something that becomes tamed, but I think it's something that we simply don't have unless there are parts of our brain that don't function correctly.

This is your opinion, i get that. However, i disagree. Morality is a [B]human nature[/B], and what about just causes. and [QUOTE=Funnycat;18076053]Morality is too subjective[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076610]I'm not a certified psychologist, but I read up on it because it's interesting. Anyways, you just agreed with me, no one actually considers it unless they have screws missing. Just about everyone has their own little fantasies about that dude who flipped him off on the bus being eaten by a giant sea monster(I have), it keeps us going. The difference is a certain line where it goes from a fantasy to something you actually begin to consider.[/QUOTE] That's not a difference. And they aren't fantasies. Let me tell you a little story. One day, back when I was in Grade 5, I used to get picked on by this certain guy. He was in Grade 8, and there really was no way I could fight back. I hated him with all my heart, and I'd always imagine that one day I'd kill him when he picks on me and say it was self-defense. In the middle of the school year, he got ran over by a car and died. I was filled with [B]JOY[/B]. I didn't feel absolutely [B]NO PITY, SYMPATHY, NOTHING.[/B] Not even to his parents, who were a bunch of rednecks that don't even know how to raise a kid. We've all got that desire deep inside us that craves the death of someone we hate. It's whether we go on and kill the person [I]ourselves[/I] or not that draws the line between insane and sane.

[QUOTE=latirCole;18076674]This is your opinion, i get that. However, i disagree. Morality is a [B]human nature[/B], and what about just causes. and[/QUOTE] Read my other post, everyone has different versions of right and wrong, my point is society should be the ones to decide it. It's an individual thing.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076662]That's where we are going to disagree no matter what. You think it's something that becomes tamed, but I think it's something that we simply don't have unless there are parts of our brain that don't function correctly.[/QUOTE] We'll I'm glad that's just you.

This thread is stupid.

[QUOTE=pyrofiliac;18076701]This thread is stupid.[/QUOTE] This.