[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076688]Read my other post, everyone has different versions of right and wrong, my point is society should be the ones to decide it. It's an individual thing.[/QUOTE]
It's not society it's human nature.
Even though we all have that drive to kill one another sometimes, there will be another drive that stops us from doing so.
Why do you think we're still alive?
[QUOTE=The Epidemic;18076686]That's not a difference.
And they aren't fantasies.
Let me tell you a little story.
One day, back when I was in Grade 5, I used to get picked on by this certain guy. He was in Grade 8, and there really was no way I could fight back.
I hated him with all my heart, and I'd always imagine that one day I'd kill him when he picks on me and say it was self-defense.
In the middle of the school year, he got ran over by a car and died.
I was filled with [B]JOY[/B]. I didn't feel absolutely [B]NO PITY, SYMPATHY, NOTHING.[/B] Not even to his parents, who were a bunch of rednecks that don't even know how to raise a kid.
We've all got that desire deep inside us that craves the death of someone we hate.
It's whether we go on and kill the person [I]ourselves[/I] or not that draws the line between insane and sane.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but if that is normal, then I guess I'm glad that I'm not. A person's death holds way too much power over me, and I could never be happy about someone dying(especially that I knew personally) that didn't do something seriously horrible to other people(bullying is [i]not[/i] seriously horrible in my book).
I'm going to kill the OP by summoning a sword out of my mouth and throwing it at him.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;18076724]I'm going to kill the OP by summoning a sword out of my mouth and throwing it at him.[/QUOTE]
If I [b]had[/b] to die, I probably wouldn't mind that death too much.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076718]I'm sorry, but if that is normal, then I guess I'm glad that I'm not. A person's death holds way too much power over me, and I could never be happy about someone dying(especially that I knew personally) that didn't do something seriously horrible to other people(bullying is [i]not[/i] seriously horrible in my book).[/QUOTE]
It wasn't just bullying.
He broke into my house one day and slapped my baby sister.
He stole my bike three times.
He vandalized my home.
But I won't get into the story.
*Gets killed by a magical oral sword*
[QUOTE=Craptasket;18076724]I'm going to kill the OP by summoning a sword out of my mouth and throwing it at him.[/QUOTE]
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lol
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076039]Didn't the British fight a series of extremely bloody wars with the French(100 years war)?[/QUOTE]
Don't even go there, they started that shit.
[QUOTE=The Epidemic;18076753]It wasn't just bullying.
He broke into my house one day and slapped my baby sister.
He stole my bike three times.
He vandalized my home.
But I won't get into the story.[/QUOTE]
I'm not asking you too, at that point it goes beyond bullying and at a young age especially, hoping he got killed or hurt isn't exactly uncommon.
In the same position I would probably have some very strong thoughts about him too. However that's something that has to be pushed out of us. When backed into a corner no human has any morals or empathy, everything becomes survival instinct.
[quote]Don't even go there, they started that shit. [/quote]
And you both kept it going.
If we didn't have morals we [b]wouldn't be here right now.[/b]. Humans are [b]not[/b] programmed to not kill each other. Morals counteract the basic instinct to get rid of something that angers us, by any means possible. This is a basic, primal instinct. Morals are more sophisticated than this, and emerge in animals who evolve with more intelligent brains. This is why, say, lions will kill each other when fighting, but they cannot do so continually because it will wipe out their pride.
It is the same with humans. Do you think that morals have to be imposed on someone by society? Of course not. Morality is ingrained in our genes; if it wasn't then we would have died out millions of years ago because proto-humans couldn't understand that in-fighting will get everyone killed.
OP is a moron who doesn't understand that morality grants us stability.
No morality would most likely lead to anarchism, which is nearly an impossibility in itself.
Nobody would be arsed to do shit, they'd just lie down all day, eat and shit themselves. Why would anyone go to work if nobody has the morale to keep companies and industries running?
From reading this thread, I can tell that the OP is even more idiotic than I had thought from his previous threads. "Morality is bad because it kills people." It also keeps people alive. Whereas no morals means you can do whatever, leading to even MORE death, because no one stop you from doing it.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076791]I'm not asking you too, at that point it goes beyond bullying and at a young age especially, hoping he got killed or hurt isn't exactly uncommon.
In the same position I would probably have some very strong thoughts about him too. However that's something that has to be pushed out of us. When backed into a corner no human has any morals or empathy, everything becomes survival instinct.
And you both kept it going.[/QUOTE]
and what do you think would happen if the UK didn't fight.
Morality is fine, as it is entirely subjective and when you grow up, you grow up with the morals of society.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076283]No they won't. People don't naturally want to kill other people. The only times when people have been able to kill others is when they became brainwashed in some way to believe the other person was less than human in some way.[/QUOTE]
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You honestly can't be serious. Humans have been killing each other since the dawn of time.
Goddamn this thread is an abortion.
OP, take a philosophy class on morality and ethics.
Until then keep your retarded deluded fantasy of morality to yourself. I'm not even going to waste my time pointing out why your notions are a complete faliure.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18076208]Yea because mass genocides are really good.[/QUOTE]And telling people to do whatever the fuck they want is better in this regard how?
You had the right idea up until you proposed another moral in response to how "morals are stupid".
Morals [I]are[/I] stupid, which is why you shouldn't base your actions on any of them, even "respect thy neighbor" or whatever it is that you said.
I think this sums up this thread nicely
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIpIAX78gig[/media]
OP is 13 and doesn't understand logic
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;18077099]From reading this thread, I can tell that the OP is even more idiotic than I had thought from his previous threads. "Morality is bad because it kills people." It also keeps people alive. Whereas no morals means you can do whatever, leading to even MORE death, because no one stop you from doing it.[/QUOTE]
The reason I don't kill people is because it would make me feel terrible, I'd go to jail, and it would solve nothing. Not because of some stupid rules my parents/ religion told me are cosmic constants.
Morals are a bigoted fantasy.
Oh my god this fucking thread
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I dont even know where to start
ITT: We are all 14 and just read an article in school that made us feel like philosophers.
Nietzsche.
God is dead
[QUOTE=The FBI;18078677]ITT: We are all 14 and just read an article in school that made us feel like philosophers.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty much how all of these threads go. Everyone thinks they've figured it out, when they've really only applied their own feelings toward one view point of one subject.
*scrawls "god is dead -neatzche" on desk, is every 14 year old who hasnt touched a girl yet*
[QUOTE=The Epidemic;1807619]But the whole 'Do whatever the fuck you want' thing is the worst idea EVER.[/QUOTE]
Uh, no. People already do what they want because there's no universal moral code. People are going to shape their moral systems to allow them to do what they want to do. Every moral decision involves a conflict of values. If you value one thing more highly than an alternative you're going to do that thing. If you want to kill someone but value human life more highly than your slight convenience, you will not kill them.
Long story short, PEOPLE ALREADY DO WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT.
of course theres a universal moral code you stupid motherfucker
People relate morality to religion far too often.
Religion is one of the few things that wrongly overrules morality.
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