[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29693925]Just make it so that if you want immortality you can't have children, using temporary castration through chemicals until we can find a way to sustain a growing population.[/QUOTE]
Nah, make it so we can have children.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;29694110]Nah, make it so we can have children.[/QUOTE]
You can have children, but you cant be immortal, it's not being forced on you that way.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29694232]You can have children, but you cant be immortal, it's not being forced on you that way.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure he gets that, but he means he'd like to be immortal AND have kids, and I agree, my gonads will foever be fully functioning :bahgawd:
[QUOTE=bravehat;29694285]Pretty sure he gets that, but he means he'd like to be immortal AND have kids, and I agree, my gonads will foever be fully functioning :bahgawd:[/QUOTE]
Only temporarily until we can find a solution to the population problem.
ITT: We're afraid to die and don't care about the actual repercussions of everyone being around forever and overpopulating the planet.
The food chain exists for a reason.
[QUOTE=BigOwl;29694386]ITT: We're afraid to die and don't care about the actual repercussions of everyone being around forever and overpopulating the planet.
The food chain exists for a reason.[/QUOTE]
Die then if that's really what you want, I however will not and denying people immortality when you have a method of doing it is pretty much an indirect way of killing people.
[QUOTE=BigOwl;29694386]ITT: We're afraid to die and don't care about the actual repercussions of everyone being around forever and overpopulating the planet.
The food chain exists for a reason.[/QUOTE]
Get dicked, we're the master of the food chain and we're the ultimate apex predator, we're untouchable in regards to the food chain.
If you quite fancy dying then that's cool, but I'd uite like to wander other planets and amongst the stars and I won't rest til it happens.
And no the food chain doesn't exist for a reason, it's just an emergent phenomenon.
Better do it before the asteroid comes
[QUOTE=jaykray;29695088]Better do it before the asteroid comes[/QUOTE]
there is no asteroid.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29695421]there is no asteroid.[/QUOTE]
yet...
[QUOTE=jaykray;29695559]yet...[/QUOTE]
By the time one even comes close to hitting earth we'll probably have ways of deflecting it in some way.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29695782]By the time one even comes close to hitting earth we'll probably have ways of deflecting it in some way.[/QUOTE]
That's what the dinosaurs said. Look where that mentality got them.
If people became permanently immortal then birth control would be an absolute necessity.
You have to consider the implications of things; death is good, it keeps our species' population under control. Without death, there'd be a huge population explosion which is not good for anything on this planet.
[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;29699745]If people became permanently immortal then birth control would be an absolute necessity.
You have to consider the implications of things; death is good, it keeps our species' population under control. Without death, there'd be a huge population explosion which is not good for anything on this planet.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but death isn't so good for the person who's dead.
Yes but living in an overcrowded world wouldn't be that fun either
[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;29702050]Yes but living in an overcrowded world wouldn't be that fun either[/QUOTE]
Better than death.
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[QUOTE=Satane;29702072]Don't old people kinda start running out of brain storage ?
We'll eventually start forgetting stuff unless we find a way to extend our brain capacity.[/QUOTE]
Our brains are quite capable of managing memories in an efficient way
You think that living in a world where problems include but are not limited to:
1)The earth's surface is covered with housing, factories, farms - everything that's essential for society's needs.
2)All wild plants are extinct to make room for this
3)All wild animals are extinct either from hunting or from loss of habitat
4)Pollution and bad sanitation is a serious problem
5)The view is dominated by concrete slabs
6)A lot of people would be in bad health, as overpopulation aids the spread of infection
and finally, you'd be bored. very bored. It's hard not to be bored when you live forever and so have the chance to do everything.
In the end, you'd be jealous of dead people. You seriously would. Overpopulation is and would be a problem, and I'd rather be dead than in a shitty world like that.
Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person.
[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;29703619]You think that living in a world where problems include but are not limited to:
1)The earth's surface is covered with housing, factories, farms - everything that's essential for society's needs.
2)All wild plants are extinct to make room for this
3)All wild animals are extinct either from hunting or from loss of habitat
4)Pollution and bad sanitation is a serious problem
5)The view is dominated by concrete slabs
6)A lot of people would be in bad health, as overpopulation aids the spread of infection
and finally, you'd be bored. very bored. It's hard not to be bored when you live forever and so have the chance to do everything.
In the end, you'd be jealous of dead people. You seriously would. Overpopulation is and would be a problem, and I'd rather be dead than in a shitty world like that.
Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person.[/QUOTE]
You don't even know what death is like, it could be a massive black room with a dungeons and dragons board in the middle of it. Then who'll be laughing.
[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;29703619]You think that living in a world where problems include but are not limited to:
1)The earth's surface is covered with housing, factories, farms - everything that's essential for society's needs.
2)All wild plants are extinct to make room for this
3)All wild animals are extinct either from hunting or from loss of habitat
4)Pollution and bad sanitation is a serious problem
5)The view is dominated by concrete slabs
6)A lot of people would be in bad health, as overpopulation aids the spread of infection
and finally, you'd be bored. very bored. It's hard not to be bored when you live forever and so have the chance to do everything.
In the end, you'd be jealous of dead people. You seriously would. Overpopulation is and would be a problem, and I'd rather be dead than in a shitty world like that.
Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person.[/QUOTE]
Death will still be an option I would guess. If you hate life so much you can go to euthanasia clinics.
Fuck sociology! I just want to be able to show that we can become immortal.
[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;29703619]You think that living in a world where problems include but are not limited to:
1)The earth's surface is covered with housing, factories, farms - everything that's essential for society's needs.
2)All wild plants are extinct to make room for this
3)All wild animals are extinct either from hunting or from loss of habitat
4)Pollution and bad sanitation is a serious problem
5)The view is dominated by concrete slabs
6)A lot of people would be in bad health, as overpopulation aids the spread of infection
and finally, you'd be bored. very bored. It's hard not to be bored when you live forever and so have the chance to do everything.
In the end, you'd be jealous of dead people. You seriously would. Overpopulation is and would be a problem, and I'd rather be dead than in a shitty world like that.
Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person.[/QUOTE]
Dude, it's called SPACE. There's a reason it's called the final frontier, if you get bored on earth, hello vast infinity. And before you say "hurr durr, we can't develop fucking society in space", bucky-boy, you have a lifetime to work on it
[QUOTE=Sputn!k;29711592]Dude, it's called SPACE. There's a reason it's called the final frontier, if you get bored on earth, hello vast infinity. And before you say "hurr durr, we can't develop fucking society in space", bucky-boy, you have a lifetime to work on it[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this
Immortality would allow us to go at a much slower pace. Right now everyone's always in a hurry, but if we have infinite life, we can relax some more.
[QUOTE=Gump;29655565]Who needs immortality anyway,everyone before us has died when they were supposed to. Why should we be any different.[/QUOTE]
Because we have trans-humanists going [B][I]FUCK. THAT. SHIT[/I][/B]. And they have a point. :v:
You seem to think that biological immortality ie. stopping the ageing process would make us suddenly able to develop faster-than-light spacecraft.
No, it wouldn't, FTL is still impossible because you will still have mass.
I know we don't necessarily need FTL in order to get somewhere, since we have seemingly infinite time, but we're still talking thousands of years just to get to the nearest star system. And who says we'll be able to colonise it?
Personally I believe in re-incarnation, therefore, to me, death is not the end; to me, there is no end. But you believe that death is the end, and fine. But we're fools to try and avoid it like cowards. Death will come to all of us, no matter what we try or do, and once you learn to accept that, you'll be much less scared of it.
Besides, you'll get bored eventually; there's only so much you can do, especially in space travel; you'd get restless just floating around for thousands of years doing the same things over and over. Like I said, you'll envy the dead once you get bored out of your skull.
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
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[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;29720354]You seem to think that biological immortality ie. stopping the ageing process would make us suddenly able to develop faster-than-light spacecraft.
No, it wouldn't, FTL is still impossible because you will still have mass.
I know we don't necessarily need FTL in order to get somewhere, since we have seemingly infinite time, but we're still talking thousands of years just to get to the nearest star system. And who says we'll be able to colonise it?
Personally I believe in re-incarnation, therefore, to me, death is not the end; to me, there is no end. But you believe that death is the end, and fine. But we're fools to try and avoid it like cowards. Death will come to all of us, no matter what we try or do, and once you learn to accept that, you'll be much less scared of it.
Besides, you'll get bored eventually; there's only so much you can do, especially in space travel; you'd get restless just floating around for thousands of years doing the same things over and over. Like I said, you'll envy the dead once you get bored out of your skull.
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
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No it means that we will live to see some form of space travel. And personally I do not believe in reincarnation so death is essentially the end
If you could live forever, would life in prison still exist as a sentence?
[QUOTE=Treybuchet;29720609]If you could live forever, would life in prison still exist as a sentence?[/QUOTE]
Probably not since that would count as psychological torment.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29720695]Probably not since that would count as psychological torment.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't it count as psychological torment now?
I agree in fighting death, but the idea of some people living forever and old ideas never dieing is kind of scary.
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Treybuchet;29720746]Doesn't it count as psychological torment now?[/QUOTE]
Hardly, prison terms are becoming more and more lenient and comfortable as times goes on, to which I disagree with, but that's irrelevant.
But as our lifespan grows wouldn't our concept of time grow too? Like 70 years start meaning nothing.
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