• Audiophiles are the stupidest fucking people in the world
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I will say for the record that it is theoretically possible for problems in the power cable to affect the output of an analog audio device, from minute power fluctuations. However, since most people, myself included, can't hear a difference between 300kbps MP3s and lossless, and that any power going into an audio device must first travel through miles of overhead wires made by the lowest bidder, there is absolutely no way you could actually hear a difference. The only possible use would be in scientific research, or perhaps developing some sort of audio-transmitted network connection.
Man I had some skullcandy headset for the PC. The bass was so loud and awesome. Whats wrong with skullcandy?
I just laughed at this thread for something tottally different. I remember the times when people carried around floppy disks, thinking CD's and USB drives would never take over. Same with VCR and DVD's. My mother used to buy bulk VCR movies before the CD craze came in, now all she uses is blueray players and we have no VCR player anymore.
[QUOTE=thedekoykid;26260572]Cables and shit can make a difference in audio quality. Not a "large" difference, but a difference none-the-less. Its the same idea as speakers, better quality speakers = better quality sound. (But cords and shit don't need to be $1000 more :/)[/QUOTE] 1/4inch music cables, sure. Not goddamn power cords. Oh god I just got a fantastic idea: GAMING power cables! Improve your FPS by de-magnetizing your power fluctuations! I could write superfluous descriptions for them on my website and sell them to Alienware owners! [QUOTE=Lilly;26260911]And they sound really good compared to my sonys. I thought they were pretty great, and now everyone's saying they're pieces of shit. Wat do. [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] As in, what are some great-quality earbuds that are durable and under $100? I can ask for new ones for Christmas.[/QUOTE] Way to be an idiotic consumer. Why do you need to replace them if they sound good and still work?
[QUOTE=Neb;26261195]Whats wrong with skullcandy?[/QUOTE] They are no different than my 1978 Pioneer headphones. They probably cost the same too. Edit: I do believe someone has already marketed power cables for gaming PC's under the guise close to yours but apparently they were less noisy and prevented the GPU from recalculating frames and boosting your overall FPS or some BS like that.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;26261371]1/4inch music cables, sure. Not goddamn power cords. Oh god I just got a fantastic idea: GAMING power cables! Improve your FPS by de-magnetizing your power fluctuations! I could write superfluous descriptions for them on my website and sell them to Alienware owners! Way to be an idiotic consumer. Why do you need to replace them if they sound good and still work?[/QUOTE] Assuming we're talking about analog signals here and power. [editline]24th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=MIPS;26261386]They are no different than my 1978 Pioneer headphones. They probably cost the same too. Edit: I do believe someone has already marketed power cables for gaming PC's under the guise close to yours but apparently they were less noisy and prevented the [b]GPU from recalculating frames[/b] and boosting your overall FPS or some BS like that.[/QUOTE] ...the fuck?
My girlfriend's dad has these speakers that look like curved shields worth 14,000 a piece, I've listened to lots of music on his system, totally NOT a waste of money.
Real audiophiles have a Faraday cage around their home.
If I'm going to buy electronics (notably headphones) I'd rather spend more :10bux: on headphones with a better build quality and aesthetics than buy cheap twenty dollar skullcandies that will disintegrate in your hands.
I have $10 skullcandy earbuds and they are better than the $20 Sony earbuds I used before. The headphones are shit but the earbuds are fine.
This is somewhat off-topic but I'm just throwing it out there. Dedicated sound cards actually have a huge difference, but it really is up to you whether or not you want to invest in one. I bought mine for $20 from wal-mart (It's a Creative Audigy SE) and sounds are much "cleaner" than what you'd get from your realtek-based audio. It's difficult to describe, so the only way you'll really find out is if you bought one. Oh, and if you have shitty speakers, then a dedicated sound card probably won't make a difference. Use headphones.
Pro Gamers are stupider.
I like audio! Am I stupid? [editline]24th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=n0cturni;26261553]This is somewhat off-topic but I'm just throwing it out there. Dedicated sound cards actually have a huge difference, but it really is up to you whether or not you want to invest in one. I bought mine for $20 from wal-mart (It's a Creative Audigy SE) and sounds are much "cleaner" than what you'd get from your realtek-based audio. It's difficult to describe, so the only way you'll really find out is if you bought one. Oh, and if you have shitty speakers, then a dedicated sound card probably won't make a difference. Use headphones.[/QUOTE] The number one thing that will make your audio sound better on any computer is a new word clock. The other day my instructor showed us a song through the Pro-Tools HD standard word clock vs an Apogee word clock. Huge difference.
[QUOTE=Neb;26261195]Man I had some skullcandy headset for the PC. The bass was so loud and awesome. Whats wrong with skullcandy?[/QUOTE] Because it's a typical example of a mediocre product which has had its price massively inflated on account of "cool" (not really) design. Skullcandy mostly has [url=http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/audio/skullcandy_g_i_rasta_stereo_headphones/1]worse specs[/url] than other headphones within the same price range.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;26261558] The number one thing that will make your audio sound better on any computer is a new word clock. The other day my instructor showed us a song through the Pro-Tools HD standard word clock vs an Apogee word clock. Huge difference.[/QUOTE] Only important if you have a lot of gear connected together to avoid sample-shifting and such. Not really important if you're listening to some MP3s or even 24Bit/96Khz FLAC.
I personally find audiophilia somewhat pretentious. But then, that just may be because of the nature of music I listen to. Take for example the band I am listening to right now, HI-TECH. They are a small-time Russian band, and the album I am listening to, their debut, was self-recorded, self-produced, and self-released, and is available for free download on their myspace page (or was. The links are currently dead, however, their newest album is available for free download off their myspace page, too, and those links actually work). The songs are 48000Hz 32-bit float .mp3's, and to me, they sound simply amazing. Not to mention, I don't think you'll be able to find any lossless FLACs of this album. :colbert:
[QUOTE=yawmwen;26261558] The number one thing that will make your audio sound better on any computer is a new word clock. The other day my instructor showed us a song through the Pro-Tools HD standard word clock vs an Apogee word clock. Huge difference.[/QUOTE] damn i'm still making songs through an MPC
[QUOTE=Craptasket;26261001]real audiophiles think this is absolute cancer[/QUOTE] Skullcancer.
I'm not really an audiophile, but I do like high quality headphones. I got [url=http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=5544]THESE[/url] for my birthday and they sound pretty awesome.
hey i just noticed my MPC has a word clock input i never noticed that cool
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;26261669]Only important if you have a lot of gear connected together to avoid sample-shifting and such. Not really important if you're listening to some MP3s or even 24Bit/96Khz FLAC.[/QUOTE] Good point, I mostly think of audio in terms of recording which does require a lot of outboard gear and signals. I guess it wouldn't matter with much with 2 tracks.
Oh look, [url=http://www.innoworkspc.com/en/product/ap102]there's a "DISC ENERGIZER" for LPs too.[/url] Who the fuck buys this shit? Oh look, they make [url=http://www.innoworkspc.com/en/product_spec/hp103]other[/url] [url=http://www.innoworkspc.com/en/product_spec/hp105]complete[/url] [url=http://www.innoworkspc.com/en/product_spec/ef104]bullshit[/url] [url=http://www.innoworkspc.com/en/product_spec/ef102]too[/url], what a surprise.
Tip, if a company is supposedly making miracle products for multiple different industries it's probably bullshit. Apogee, for example, is a digital audio company. They make cables, word clocks, AD converters, etc. Coca Cola makes soft drinks. Don't trust a company that has so many different products that all seem too good to be true.
[QUOTE=dustyjo;26261751] [url=http://www.innoworkspc.com/en/product_spec/hp105][b]complete[/b][/url] [[/QUOTE] So...it's a vibrator?
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;26260657]Then you're part of the problem as to why you could find a pair of quality headphones for $20 at any electronics store in 2000, yet today all you find is $50 Skullcandy shitphones. Seriously, that's what Skullcandy does: they take $5 horrible shitty headphones, throw a skull on them and some quirky design, and resell them for $50.[/QUOTE] i bought mine for $15 no complaints
[QUOTE=gman003-main;26261137]I will say for the record that it is theoretically possible for problems in the power cable to affect the output of an analog audio device, from minute power fluctuations. However, since most people, myself included, can't hear a difference between 300kbps MP3s and lossless, and that any power going into an audio device must first travel through miles of overhead wires made by the lowest bidder, there is absolutely no way you could actually hear a difference. The only possible use would be in scientific research, or perhaps developing some sort of audio-transmitted network connection.[/QUOTE] I can't tell the difference between the 256kps variable and my flac files on most sources I have. I can tell a slight difference in treble but I think thats a placebo effect. I keep my files as flac most the time because it makes transcoding really easy, and if I have them why not listen to them. There is a difference between constant and variable MP3, you can also tell the difference between 192kb/s and 128kb/s under certain circumstances. Most songs are affected to much by the mp3 conversion. There is almost no clipping until you get to low bitrates. You lose soundstage as you go lower in bitrate, it gets harder to place where instruments are being played and becomes more like a blob where all the sound comes from. I can't do any accurate tests currently on a laptop with integrated and can barely hear a difference between 128 and 192, there is also a slight hiss that is driving me insane. On my desktop I can hear the difference. ATH-50s are such nice headphones. If you guys decide to have a fight over codecs check out [url=http://ixbtlabs.com/articles/oggvslame/] this article that compares ogg and mp3[/url]. There is a lot of psychoacoustics that go into lossy stuff. The stuff in the OP made me laugh, so many words to describe a difference that cannot be perceived by a humans ear. There are a few things that matter about making sure audio is good. There is a bunch of stuff for audiophiles like special cables which are in my opinion bullshit past a certain extent. I can understand recabling your headphones for $30 to go with better jacks and a physically nicer cable. The 60hz ground loop some people claim is in everything doesn't exist if you have a properly wired house and if you do have a problem fancy power cables won't fix it; a UPS can along with fixing the source of the problem. My neighbor at home owns a recording studio and ground loops were a problem for him due to the quality off his gear, he didn't use fancy cables to fix it; he had the problem that was causing it fixed because its not safe for equipment. You have a good source, the music itself and what outputs it. A CD with poor mastering sounds the same on everything, ala made for radio stuff.
I have dynaudio speakers in a stereo setup with an onkyo amp and a sunfire subwoofer. Sounds good man
I've had 10$ headphones for over 3 years now. They work perfectly with great audio quality. Love 'em, and they are [I]better than 50$ worth of SkullCandy.[/I]
i've got a setup of 20$ speakers from wallmart, an old analogue mixer, and a 70's turntable amplified by said mixer i be liven audiophile son
i used the skullcandy com-ti and it was the best sound i've ever heard from headphones, fuck y'all
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