Audiophiles are the stupidest fucking people in the world
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I have Sennheiser HD595s, ran through a USB sound card. Sounds pretty damn good.
[QUOTE=Upgrade123;26261482]Real audiophiles have a Faraday cage around their home.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;26260365]No they don't, the only thing you need to do to audio (and this is only if you're mastering through a bunch of rackmount gear or something) is condition it. You don't need a specialty cable for that, but a special device (usually ~$500 or so for a good one).
This is for home audio, and is just a power cord, not a power conditioner.[/QUOTE]
My entertainment center uses a power conditioner. Good stuff.
there's a pretty big difference between audiophile and pretentious faggot dropping a grand on placebo
I had some skullcandy earphones and they sounded great. Overpriced, but the quality was perfectly fine.
I'm perfectly content with my generic iPod earbuds. I don't have to worry about losing/breaking them and the quality is fine for when I just need to entertain myself with music in class.
I do own a pair of midrange headphones for gaming at home, though.
[QUOTE=MagicBurrito;26261488]I have $10 skullcandy earbuds and they are better than the $20 Sony earbuds I used before. The headphones are shit but the earbuds are fine.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Those cheap earphones you keep buying year after year? The ones with the cool designs? They all kinda sound the same, huh? There's a pretty good reason for that: They actually are all the same earphones.
[...]
Turns out, all that variety can be misleading—particularly when you look at the lower end of the market. While the sheer number of options from companies like Skullcandy and Scosche may suggest otherwise, you are definitely not buying a unique sonic snowflake when you opt for the Asym Rasta IEMs.
"The simplest way to get into the industry is to choose something that looks and sounds reasonable and have it printed and packed with your name on it," says Neville Stuart, principle research engineer at Bowers & Wilkins.
That's precisely what the Skullcandys, Cobys and iLuvs of the world are doing—with great success, too.[/quote]
[url]http://gizmodo.com/5617200/the-secret-scam-of-cheap-earbuds[/url]
[b]tl;dr[/b]: Skullcandy earbuds are literally bought in bulk, branded, and sold. What you're hearing can quite literally be replicated by just about any $30< earbud.
The main thing that I hate is when my earbuds loose connections and the volume goes out of sync. I can tell a difference between skullcandy and the Jbuds J3s I bought recently, it's like my music never had bass with skullcandy.
Audiophiles are fucking stupid
*buys a $200 gaming mouse*
Skullcandy is a hipster fashion accessory at best, which is their best excuse for the prices. You'll notice the skateboard-esque designs on everything of theirs over $20. Anything [i]under[/i] $20 is actually amazing for its price, and good for keeping on your ipod when you excercise because if you trip and rip the cord in half on something, you can replace it for just a little more than you paid for your McDonalds combo meal that you told yourself you could run off.
As a side-note to skull candy, anything labeled "gaming" when it comes to headsets is an $80 piece of $15 equipment with massive padding and flame stickers everywhere.
Stupid things like thousand dollar audio enhancing lights have at least a [i]little[/i] backing (like how black light kills bacteria?), but it's more a placebo placed out there for self-proclaimed audiophiles who are about having the best equipment and convince themselves the money is well worth the investment. That little gadget looks and probably does just as much as a DVD rewinder though.
cables are good, to an extent, though there's no justification for insane power cables unless you're running an extremely demanding system 24/7 for days on end and don't want the cables to start corroding or whatever from overuse. Maybe clubs and DJs can use the stuff, but I'm sure they can afford to replace shit after several years when they upgrade their equipment anyways.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;26263282]Skullcandy is a hipster fashion accessory at best, which is their best excuse for the prices. You'll notice the skateboard-esque designs on everything of theirs over $20.[/QUOTE]
now this is just getting ridiculous
hipsters, skateboarders, and skullcandies do not relate
Congratulations, they have discovered he placebo effect.
[QUOTE=thisispain;26263319]now this is just getting ridiculous
hipsters, skateboarders, and skullcandies do not relate[/QUOTE]
Hipsters around Chicago are probably odd compared to the rest but if you see one with headphones around their neck you'd bet your ass what brand it is, despite their whole anti-fashion irony thing or whatever their goal is.
You have to admit skullcandy has been feeding off of popularity-heads of all sorts ( especially skater-wannabe highschoolers) since the beginning. Go to a [url=http://www.journeys.com/]Journeys store[/url] and they have a shining glass case with big expensive skullcandies with bright annoying designs.
Sennheiser HD-650 is about as audiophilic as I'll go. Well worth the money though, compared to previous gaming headsets I've used(SteelSeries Siberia V1/V2 / 7H and Roccat Kave aka Ratshit Cave)
[QUOTE=bobste;26260594]i like skullcandy[/QUOTE]
Skullcandy sucks. My earphones broke after a week.
I have this:
[img]http://www.techreviewer.com/content/reviews/hd280pro/pic1.big.jpg[/img]
and this:
[img]http://pub1.personafile.com/pf/A3179-5/pk-000000000056505-566d94ddd34a4be4bbc82cea24080e5e-30-1.jpg[/img]
Life's good.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;26263282]
As a side-note to skull candy, anything labeled "gaming" when it comes to headsets is an $80 piece of $15 equipment with massive padding and flame stickers everywhere.
Stupid things like thousand dollar audio enhancing lights have at least a [i]little[/i] backing (like how black light kills bacteria?), but it's more a placebo placed out there for self-proclaimed audiophiles who are about having the best equipment and convince themselves the money is well worth the investment. That little gadget looks and probably does just as much as a DVD rewinder though.
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First off, everyone knows flames make things better, [I]duh[/I]. Secondly, the backing for the light appears to be the most hilariously bullshit woo i've seen in a while. It aligns the protons and all that jazz, it's in dustyjoe's post.
Best image ever: [img]http://www.innoworkspc.com/Upload/IPC/090824175220000-00175.jpg[/img]
PHYSICAL MUSIC NOTES
[QUOTE=NoMercyXTF;26263460]First off, everyone knows flames make things better, [I]duh[/I]. Secondly, the backing for the light appears to be the most hilariously bullshit woo i've seen in a while. It aligns the protons and all that jazz, it's in dustyjoe's post.
Best image ever: [img_thumb]http://www.innoworkspc.com/Upload/IPC/090824175220000-00175.jpg[/img_thumb]
PHYSICAL MUSIC NOTES[/QUOTE]
A personal appeal to anyone who considers buying this contraption:
align your protons with an industrial magnet.
That is a beautiful power cord though
[QUOTE=4RT1LL3RY;26261947]I can't tell the difference between the 256kps variable and my flac files on most sources I have. I can tell a slight difference in treble but I think thats a placebo effect. I keep my files as flac most the time because it makes transcoding really easy, and if I have them why not listen to them.
There is a difference between constant and variable MP3, you can also tell the difference between 192kb/s and 128kb/s under certain circumstances. Most songs are affected to much by the mp3 conversion. There is almost no clipping until you get to low bitrates. You lose soundstage as you go lower in bitrate, it gets harder to place where instruments are being played and becomes more like a blob where all the sound comes from. I can't do any accurate tests currently on a laptop with integrated and can barely hear a difference between 128 and 192, there is also a slight hiss that is driving me insane. On my desktop I can hear the difference. ATH-50s are such nice headphones.
If you guys decide to have a fight over codecs check out [url=http://ixbtlabs.com/articles/oggvslame/] this article that compares ogg and mp3[/url]. There is a lot of psychoacoustics that go into lossy stuff. The stuff in the OP made me laugh, so many words to describe a difference that cannot be perceived by a humans ear.
There are a few things that matter about making sure audio is good. There is a bunch of stuff for audiophiles like special cables which are in my opinion bullshit past a certain extent. I can understand recabling your headphones for $30 to go with better jacks and a physically nicer cable. The 60hz ground loop some people claim is in everything doesn't exist if you have a properly wired house and if you do have a problem fancy power cables won't fix it; a UPS can along with fixing the source of the problem. My neighbor at home owns a recording studio and ground loops were a problem for him due to the quality off his gear, he didn't use fancy cables to fix it; he had the problem that was causing it fixed because its not safe for equipment.
You have a good source, the music itself and what outputs it. A CD with poor mastering sounds the same on everything, ala made for radio stuff.[/QUOTE]
Well that's not how compression works. You lose fine detail, but what there is sounds perfect. That's why there is "no difference". But there is, you just can't hear it because the compression is made to fool you.
[QUOTE=Lilly;26260911]Okay, I have a problem then. I have a pair of these
[img_thumb]http://cdn.skullcandy.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/s/m/smokin-buds-pink-black-glamor.jpg[/img_thumb]
And they sound really good compared to my sonys. I thought they were pretty great, and now everyone's saying they're pieces of shit.
Wat do.
[editline]23rd November 2010[/editline]
As in, what are some great-quality earbuds that are durable and under $100?
I can ask for new ones for Christmas.[/QUOTE]
I bought the same ones, but blue, from the Fred Meyers down the road. They were on sale for $8, originally they were $10 or $15, but they sound good. Not like AMAZING, but for little ear plugs they produce very clear bass. I actually prefer them over my original iPod plugs.
But I have seen their larger headsets, and in no way am I dropping that amount of money for a pair. But damn, $8 ear plugs with clear bass, good enough for me.
[QUOTE=Signature;26263439]I have this:
[img_thumb]http://www.techreviewer.com/content/reviews/hd280pro/pic1.big.jpg[/img_thumb]
and this:
[img_thumb]http://pub1.personafile.com/pf/A3179-5/pk-000000000056505-566d94ddd34a4be4bbc82cea24080e5e-30-1.jpg[/img_thumb]
Life's good.[/QUOTE]
This is crap, not audiophile stuff.
Now I can see how power might play in, maybe contributing to the regularity of the noise floor? Affecting maybe the timing? (Probably significantly less than the impulse response of your speakers though.)
Who knows.
I think mac fanboys are more stupid sorry.
Hahahahahahahaha.
Mac fanboys are the heralds of the age of reason compared to these so called "audiophiles".
Most audiophiles are actually quite sensible people, but when they are dumb shit, god they [B]ARE[/B] dumb shits.
[editline]24th November 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=BmB;26263558]
Now I can see how power might play in, maybe contributing to the regularity of the noise floor? Affecting maybe the timing? (Probably significantly less than the impulse response of your speakers though.)
Who knows.[/QUOTE]
If you have power loops, it can create some hum and bad audio quality, especially with analog equipment.
I happen to have Skullcandy headphones for my computer (note that they were a spare pair lying around the house and my previous headphones broke). I must say that they're more sensitive (or whatever) than my previous headphones and/or have a larger frequency range. Ironically, this has had a detrimental effect on the audio output because it now picks up all the static from the computer as the electrical signals travel to the front of my case. Why don't I put it into the back of the case and prevent hearing the static? Because the cord is too short.
Also, the headphones may or may not improve sensitivity but rather it may be because the cushioning fits around my ear better that I can hear the static.
[img]http://www.myinear.com/images/koss-porta-pro-p.jpg[/img]
Fuck those fancy Skullshit headphones. Get a pair of these and you'll never wanna even look at other headphones.
[QUOTE=Kalkka;26263735]
Fuck those fancy Skullshit headphones. Get a pair of these and you'll never wanna even look at other headphones.[/QUOTE]
did you mean other $30 k-mart headphones? once you listen to [B]good[/B] headphones you don't wanna look at those.
but good headphones for the price, those are my traveling phones to create some ambient noise in bus.
I agree with OP, audiophiles fucking suck.
[QUOTE=BmB;26263558]This is crap, not audiophile stuff.[/QUOTE]
So Sennheiser makes bad earphones??
[QUOTE=Kalkka;26263735][img_thumb]http://www.myinear.com/images/koss-porta-pro-p.jpg[/img_thumb]
Fuck those fancy Skullshit headphones. Get a pair of these and you'll never wanna even look at other headphones.[/QUOTE]
I used to have these, sound quality is great but the overall hardware quality is poor, half a year of pretty much constant use and they stopped working :saddowns:
[QUOTE=evilking1;26263675]If you have power loops, it can create some hum and bad audio quality, especially with analog equipment.[/QUOTE]
It's half the appeal to some folks. Kinda like the distortion on old vinyl. There are people out there who will tell you a specific cycle of hum their shit sounds best at.
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