[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16615088]Except national socialism is really fascism and not actually socialism at all.[/QUOTE]
I was quoting a post that emphasized the word "libertarian"
but yes this party is really fuckin' dumb and like I said probably a running joke
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[QUOTE=Lankist;16615107]Not really. Libertarianism's focus is on small government and individualism, socialism sort of detracts from that when it addresses the good of the whole before the good of the individual.[/QUOTE]
yes; in the American sense of the term, that's what it means
internationally though it is simply pro-individual liberty and the antithesis of authoritarianism
libertarian socialism is something like anarcho-syndicalism
I hate libertarians, I hate greens.
conclusion: I hate these people.
socialism sucks anyway.
true communism as originally described wouldn't so bad though.
[QUOTE=limulus54;16615250]I hate libertarians[/QUOTE]
hahaha yeah. Me too.
Crazy freedom-loving individualists.
Ask Chippay. I'm actually a Trotskyite. Hooray for the Permanent Revolution!
There was no Tea at the Boston Tea Party, was there?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16615261]hahaha yeah. Me too.
Crazy freedom-loving individualists.[/QUOTE]
you can't reduce that argument to "we love freedom and u don't lol"
it just doesn't work, it's much more complicated.
We need to stop labeling people's political views. Everybody has vastly different opinions on different issues and these labels just trivialize matters.
[QUOTE=limulus54;16615283]you can't reduce that argument to "we love freedom and u don't lol"[/QUOTE]
The hell are you talking about? I just did.
You can argue it's not an accurate assessment, but I did it anyway.
Also, I don't remember the "you don't" bit being in there.
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;16615302]We need to stop labeling people's political views. Everybody has vastly different opinions on different issues and these labels just trivialize matters.[/QUOTE]
"I'm a strict-gun-rights-advocating, abortion-hating, private-medical-care-loving, pro-capitalist..."
You see why this shit doesn't work without labels?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16615108]yes; in the American sense of the term, that's what it means
internationally though it is simply pro-individual liberty and the antithesis of authoritarianism
libertarian socialism is something like anarcho-syndicalism[/QUOTE]
It's one of those ones that's right on the edge of contradiction, like anarcho-capitalism.
They aren't worthy of the label "libertarian." Look at that list of beliefs. That's pathetic.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;16614873]You can be for the preservation of your own culture without being for the elimination of others.[/QUOTE]
but that's not nationalism soooo v:shobon:v
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[QUOTE=nERVEcenter;16615538]They aren't worthy of the label "libertarian." Look at that list of beliefs. That's pathetic.[/QUOTE]
aye, the libertarians are known to be an exclusive, guarded fraternity who arggfahahahahahah
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16615303]"I'm a strict-gun-rights-advocating, abortion-hating, private-medical-care-loving, pro-capitalist..."
You see why this shit doesn't work without labels?[/QUOTE]
How often are we discussing all four of those things at once? In a gun control debate, state your opinion. In an abortion debate, state your opinion.
"IM A SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE" doesn't help matters any.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16615556]aye, the libertarians are known to be an exclusive, guarded fraternity who arggfahahahahahah[/QUOTE]
We all worship Baphomet too.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16615598]We all worship Baphomet too.[/QUOTE]
Who doesn't?
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Me and my compatriots follow a sophisticated doctrine of National Socialism completely devoid of Hitler's silly, useless, and distasteful war against "Untermensch".
I'm not a Nazi, but...
[QUOTE=ImOnTheBall;16616148]The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party of America?
Libertarians are not Socialists or Green. In a libertarian government you worry about your own damned health/retirement and you drive an SUV whenever you damned well feel like it. Unfunny joke.[/QUOTE]
and let those less fortunate die.
[QUOTE=limulus54;16616489]and let those less fortunate die.[/QUOTE]
Charities would still exist in a libertarian society.
People hate them for some reason... :buddy:
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[QUOTE=I AM A GIMMICK;16616604]fag[/QUOTE]
You fucking ass.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;16616532]Charities would still exist in a libertarian society.[/QUOTE]
as if charities are enough. charities rely on peoples good nature. and there seems to be a lack of it atm. libertarianism does not provide for the poor in any way.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;16616287]Me and my compatriots follow a sophisticated doctrine of National Socialism completely devoid of Hitler's silly, useless, and distasteful war against "Untermensch".[/QUOTE]
so in other words you stroke each other over shitty "white culture"
libertarians assemble
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[QUOTE=limulus54;16616642]as if charities are enough. charities rely on peoples good nature. and there seems to be a lack of it atm. libertarianism does not provide for the poor in any way.[/QUOTE]
I'm more socially libertarian than economically, so in my perfect world there would still be some types of social services.
But they'd be overseen heavily to make sure people can't abuse the system, and would only apply in special cases. The people contributing to the system would actually get say in who uses it.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16616828]libertarians assemble[/QUOTE]
Free market! Individualism! Rights! Small government! Self-determination!
GO PAUL!
By your powers combined... I am RON PAUL!
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16617670]Free market! Individualism! Rights! Small government! Self-determination!
GO PAUL!
By your powers combined... I am RON PAUL!
[IMG]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x309/JohnnyMo1/Captain-Paul.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
While I like the idea, free market won't work. Sure, the government can GTFO of the private affairs of citizens, but we can't just let the banks run around above the law.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;16617703]While I like the idea, free market won't work. Sure, the government can GTFO of the private affairs of citizens, but we can't just let the banks run around above the law.[/QUOTE]
FYI what the banks were doing that caused the subprime mortgage crisis was within the law.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16617724]FYI what the banks were doing that caused the subprime mortgage crisis was within the law.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and without some kind of oversight there won't be any law so they'll keep doing it. I never said that they were breaking the law.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;16617761]Yeah, and without some kind of oversight there won't be any law so they'll keep doing it. I never said that they were breaking the law.[/QUOTE]
If the banks want to keep failing, sure they'll keep doing it.
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