[QUOTE=Siminov;20595959]They aren't heavy as fuck compared to older cars like the Caprice and Impala SS, that is what I meant.
They handle well, I didn't say they were the best, better though than most Imported and domestic sedans.[/QUOTE]
What the hell the 5 series and the Impala weigh nearly the same and the Caprice is an old piece of shit that shouldn't have even been included in your post.
And hey guess what [b]the 5 series is an import.[/b] And I'm sure a CTS-V would mop the floor with the 528i.
[QUOTE=Siminov;20596289]We you cant get it like that stock from the dealership, thats all.[/QUOTE]
Buying a new car is a waste of money, rolling off their parking lot, and your car loses 10% of it's value.
[QUOTE=Van-man;20596274]Sure you can, with a custom engine mount[/QUOTE]
I ment to say the 5-series, it has one as an option.
my favorite vehicle:
[img]http://dev.militarytrader.com/upload/images/DSC_0288.JPG[/img]
[QUOTE=Siminov;20596205]True they have a generic look, not as bad as a [B]camary, prius or corolla [/B]though.
I will get flamed for [B]that.[/B][/QUOTE]
Stop fucking posting holy shit, the BMW is tens of thousands of dollars more expensive.
[QUOTE=edberg;20596302]What the hell the 5 series and the Impala weigh nearly the same and the Caprice is an old piece of shit that shouldn't have even been included in your post.
And hey guess what [b]the 5 series is an import.[/b] And I'm sure a CTS-V would mop the floor with the 528i.[/QUOTE]
CTS-V
Base Price
$60,720
Drivetrain
Rear Wheel Drive
Curb Weight (lbs)
4222
Curb Weight (lbs)
4255
City (MPG)
14
City (MPG)
12
Hwy (MPG)
19
Hwy (MPG)
18
Horsepower
556 @ 6100
Torque (lb-ft)
551 @ 3800
Wheelbase (in.)
113.4
Length (in.)
191.6
Width (in.)
72.5
Height (in.)
57.3
528I
Original MSRP
$45,950
Invoice
$42,275
Body Style Sedan
Engine
3.0L 230 hp I6
Std.
Horsepower (@rpm)
230 @ 6500
Torque (@rpm)
200 @ 2750
Displacement (cc)
2996
Bore X Stroke
3.35 X 3.46
Compression Ratio
10.7:1
6-Speed Automatic Overdrive:
Opt.
MPG - (City/Highway)
18 / 28
0-60 (sec) N/A
6-Speed Manual Overdrive:
Std.
MPG - (City/Highway)
17 / 27
0-60 (sec) N/A
[QUOTE=edberg;20596302]
And hey guess what [b]the 5 series is an import.[/b] And I'm sure a CTS-V would mop the floor with the 528i.[/QUOTE]
No Shit...
Sorry to break it to you, The Impala SS and The Caprice were built on the same frame design before 96'
/done
[QUOTE=Siminov;20596415]CTS-V
Base Price
$60,720
Drivetrain
Rear Wheel Drive
Curb Weight (lbs)
4222
Curb Weight (lbs)
4255
City (MPG)
14
City (MPG)
12
Hwy (MPG)
19
Hwy (MPG)
18
Horsepower
556 @ 6100
Torque (lb-ft)
551 @ 3800
Wheelbase (in.)
113.4
Length (in.)
191.6
Width (in.)
72.5
Height (in.)
57.3
528I
Original MSRP
$45,950
Invoice
$42,275
Body Style Sedan
Engine
3.0L 230 hp I6
Std.
Horsepower (@rpm)
230 @ 6500
Torque (@rpm)
200 @ 2750
Displacement (cc)
2996
Bore X Stroke
3.35 X 3.46
Compression Ratio
10.7:1
6-Speed Automatic Overdrive:
Opt.
MPG - (City/Highway)
18 / 28
0-60 (sec) N/A
6-Speed Manual Overdrive:
Std.
MPG - (City/Highway)
17 / 27
0-60 (sec) N/A
No Shit...
Sorry to break it to you, The Impala SS and The Caprice are built on the same frame design before 96'
/done[/QUOTE]
Oh no you don't, stack up the fucking options on the 5-series to make it comparable then give me a price.
And a 9th gen Impala is not built on the same chassis.
[b]Stop Posting[/b]
[QUOTE=edberg;20596469]Oh no you don't, stack up the fucking options on the 528i to make it comparable then give me a price.
And a 9th gen Impala is not built on the same chassis.
[b]Stop Posting[/b][/QUOTE]
[I][U][B]LAST POST[/B][/U][/I]
Look, Last post, you can quit flipping out now!
I was talking about the 7th gen impala, 4th gen Caprice.
BMWs are really ugly
[QUOTE=Penis Colada;20596934]BMWs are really ugly[/QUOTE]
New ones, yes. Old ones, HELL NAW.
[QUOTE=Van-man;20595643]Keepin' it real
[img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Volvo1267873039342.jpg[/img_thumb]
I don't want a expensive car, i want a cheap banger that can handle to be trashed around with, and easy and cheap to fix.[/QUOTE]
:fh:
[QUOTE=dcalde78;20597021]New ones, yes. Old ones, HELL NAW.
:fh:[/QUOTE]
it's all about the e36 brosef
[QUOTE=edberg;20597041]it's all about the e36 brosef[/QUOTE]
No, E36's is the definiton of a wigger-guido-mobile here.
Just look at this great spot I made in Google Street View. This is why E36's have a bad reputation here, and I hate them to death.
[url=http://maps.google.dk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=da&geocode=&q=skodsborg&sll=55.869147,11.228027&sspn=11.092789,33.815918&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Skodsborg&ll=55.822285,12.574453&spn=0,359.917603&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=55.822384,12.574435&panoid=nr07dEVTlCjs7AFNDtcTZg&cbp=12,347.85,,1,11.05]Click here[/url]
e30 imo
[QUOTE=Ferosso;20602094]No, E36's is the definiton of a wigger-guido-mobile here.
Just look at this great spot I made in Google Street View. This is why E36's have a bad reputation here, and I hate them to death.
[url=http://maps.google.dk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=da&geocode=&q=skodsborg&sll=55.869147,11.228027&sspn=11.092789,33.815918&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Skodsborg&ll=55.822285,12.574453&spn=0,359.917603&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=55.822384,12.574435&panoid=nr07dEVTlCjs7AFNDtcTZg&cbp=12,347.85,,1,11.05]Click here[/url][/QUOTE]
A couple of fools owning a BMW does not come close to representing every E30 or BMW owner on the planet.
[QUOTE=PermabannedGuy;20602243]A couple of fools owning a BMW does not come close to representing every E30 or BMW owner on the planet.[/QUOTE]
No, but the majority of people owning E36's and E30's here are guidofags. And that's just what made me hate them. I don't mind if you like them, and I'm sure it's not like that in the states. I just hate them.
[url]http://toyotasimulator.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Tymoschuk;20594971]BMW 8-Series V12:
[img]http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc214/123rd45thside/used-1994-bmw-8_series-850csi-7736-.jpg[/img]
When I'm old enough to drive, and when it's not too hard for me to insure, I'm buying one of these after loving my uncles :)[/QUOTE]
An 850 is either great or horrid, depending on the particular car. Get a mechanic to check it out before you buy, as parts for those V12s are crazy expensive.
That said, there's no other car I'd rather have for cruising on a highway at 140MPH than an 850CSi.
Too much Bimmer hate in this thread as of late, so here's a blacked-out E39 M5:
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3486/3273164156_c8ce33ca18.jpg[/img]
Only bad part is the rims.
jesus christ you guys are all ricers
[QUOTE=EurofanBMW;20604311]jesus christ you guys are all ricers[/QUOTE]
Naw, my dream car is actually a bone-stock (maybe with a turbo for a little extra oomph) E39 M5 in Le Mans Blue.
[img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/rickrack/8a752d29.jpg[/img]
Avus Blue is fine too:
[img]http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3852/carshoot630072wp3.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=EurofanBMW;20604311]jesus christ you guys are all ricers[/QUOTE]
What is a ricer, my good man?
[QUOTE=Ferosso;20604384]What is a ricer, my good man?[/QUOTE]
Someone driving a low powered econo-car (AKA honda civic, dodge neon) who invest's a ridiculous amount of money into spoilers/rims/bodies/nos/exaust while not actually improving the performance of the car.
You are a RICER if......
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* You have more exhaust decibels than your engine has horsepower.
* You have after market FRONT wheels for racing but stock rear wheels.
* Your engine makes twice as much horsepower as torque.
* 17" rims up front, 13" out back on your FWD.
* You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your car.
* You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual transmission
* DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking for.
* Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO steering wheel, PIA driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL engine parts.
* A chameleon lizard undergoes fewer shade changes than your custom paint scheme.
* Your rims and tires are so large, that you have to install the tire / wheel from underneath the car because it simply won't fit in the wheel well going in from the side.
* The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months...
* Your tires / rims stick out from the lip of your car by more than 1."
* Your paint job is from the WRONG end of the color spectrum.
* You installed spacers on your STOCK wheels and tires to get them to stick out past the fender.
* You see cars like yours in a Shriner's Parade for Children and clowns are driving them.
* You bring an empty Maxwell House coffee can with you to compare size when you shop for an after market exhaust system.
* Your Eclipse GS-T hardtop has a "SPYDER" emblem on the rear...
* Your sum knowledge of suspension is: "the more negative camber, the better the handling."
* You push your car through the staging lanes. That way, maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.
* You add a super tall rear wing, and a hundred pounds of after market ground effects, neon and stereo yet you gut the interior and yank out the rear seat for weight savings.
* Your rear wing AND your rear window have a third mount brake light...
* The back lighting in the gauges in your A-pillar gauge pod work long before the actual gauges are hooked up.
* You cut 4 coil springs and scrape the chassis on the ground. Sparks are cool when you corner at normal traffic speeds!
* You have to find a way to drive AROUND speed bumps in a parking lot.
* You install clear corner and brake lights.
* You install colored bulbs in your after market clear lenses.
* You ever put neon on the bottom of your car, and then busted it on the first speed bump you went over.
* You painted the UNDER BODY of your car to match
* If your rear spoiler is taller then you are.
* if you can fit fist **** your exhaust tip
* You have more stereo WATTS than engine TORQUE!
* If your tailpipe extension is the most expensive mod you’ve done to your engine yet.
* Your tailpipe extension fell off during a quarter mile race and you went three tenths of a second faster due to weight savings.
* EVERY car in your class has a turbo pushing double digits worth of boost.
* You spent $5,000 on the engine and you can not out run a stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang
* You want the 'wastegate' sound, but don't want to install a turbocharger system.
* You think Nitrous Oxide on your Hyundai Sonata puts you in the same performance league as the Chevy Corvette.
* The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in the 1/4mile.
* If the 1970 Plymouth Daytona Superbird has a smaller spoiler than your car does.
* You think the Del Sol is a sports car...
* A torque converter does NOTHING for your car.
* You think a deep farty noise = the sound of high performance
* If you think that horsepower is far more important than torque
* If you have ever claimed that switching to a cone filter has given you more than 5 HP.
* If you have ever considered installing more than one set of fog / driving lights.
* If you claim that the after market cold air intake system you just installed doubled your horsepower or took 2 or more seconds off of your E/T.
* Your baseball cap is always on backwards when you drive (the first sign of mental retardation, wearing your clothes backwards... BE).
* You spent all night on the Internet trying to find a company that makes a turbocharger system for your Hyundai...
* If you removed your side view mirrors and put them at the TOP of the door / window frame.
* If you think the Fugees are 'speed' music.
* MOMO is 'absolutely required' to go fast.
* Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed.
* Your four cylinder has four exhaust pipes ("Hey, one for each cylinder!")
* The color of your interior upholstery hurts the cones and rods in other people's eyes.
* If you cannot drive your car in snow as the ground effects create a plow effect.
* If you have installed driving lights to compensate for headlight blackouts / tape.
* If you think that 180 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are impressive for a ‘mildly’ modified engine.
* If you have stickers on your car for parts that you could not point out if asked where those parts are installed.
* You think pushrods are a bad thing…
* Your car has more decals than you do the quarter in seconds.
* Every Honda you EVER owned, all the way back to your 1978 Accord was either a V-Tec or a TYPE-R.
* You took your rear seat out and gutted your interior for weight savings but you installed 400 pounds of electronics, neon, DVD, Sony, etc.
* If you gutted the interior to save weight on a car that you will never take to the track…
* You lean your seat so far back when you are driving, that every time you hit a bump, its your back and not your butt that hurts.
* You have hydraulics and sixteen switches on a car you claim runs low 10s on the street and corners better than a Porsche.
* If you can estimate that your car makes more than 250 HP without ever running it at the track or getting a dyno reading.
* You claim that you can get a titanium block for your engine.
* If you have ever thought Hyundai and "performance" went hand in hand
* If you've ever gone to a parts shop or speed warehouse and asked for a 1" to 6" exhaust adapter...
* If you've ever contemplated adding "TYPE-R" stickers to your Sonata…
* If you've removed more than 1/2 of the coils from your springs by cutting them yourself ...
* If you have more neon lights on your car than a strip club...
* You put Kanji on your Ford ZX2, Ford Probe, or Mercury Cougar ...
* You own a "TYPE-R" Hyundai or Mazda.
* You couldn't afford headlight masking, so you just painted them with flat black Krylon and it's peeling. Badly.
* You claim that polishing your intake gave you 5hp.
* You own a V-TEC Hyundai or Mazda (especially a V-TEC rotary engined Mazda RX-7)
* You have neon INSIDE your car or in your ENGINE compartment
* You ever claimed that high gas mileage made your car superior in performance to V8s.
* If it takes you 8000rpm to reach 30mph from a dead stop at WOT.
* You think yellow plastic interior trim makes your car cool
* You spend $500 for a giant hand welded tube for a muffler with the weld marks extremely visible
* If you paint your drum brakes to simulate Hi-po calipers
* If you install fake hi-po caliper / disc simulators
* You have a front wing.
* If you lower your car and add ground effects but retain the stock 14inch wheels with disc style wheel covers
* If you equate the sound of performance with the sound of a Weed Eater™
* If you think bolting a fake muffler to one side to simulate dual exhaust is cool
* If you think colored head lights work better
* Clear tail lights and turn signals. They’re colored for a REASON!
* If you take mom's 4 door Honda accord and do any kind of mod to it
* You drive a Ford Escort station wagon with Kanji, wide tires, and Limp Bizkit stickers on the rear hatch
* You claim you lost the race because you had a passenger in the car.
* You claim how if you went from a roll you would have beat him.
* You claim you lost because you missed a shift... and your car is an automatic.
* You claim you lost because he must have been on the juice..
* Flying past the person who is 10 car lengths in front of you after they have put on their brakes.. and claim a victory.
* after losing you flip your opponent off... rev your motor and fail to break the wheels loose even around a corner.
* Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your "driving skills."
* you are a white kid driving an import.. wear baggy pants/hat turned around, walk with a fake limp and end every sentence with "yew know wha I'm sayin? Relate."
* Your idea of aiming a handgun is raising your arm over your head, pointing the gun away from you, and then just letting your wrist fall to the side to where the gun is almost sideways ...
* drive around in a $20,000 import with $10,000 in mods.. and still live with your parents.
* You can relate to every line of the song "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" by the Offspring
* you take offense when I say.. "your sister is like your car.. small, tight and hard to get into."
* You are a skinny, backwards hat wearing, dog chain wallet, 2 ft wide pants leg, Limp Bizkit looking white boy *** with a badly applied peroxide hair color treatment and temporary rub-on tattoos!
*You've spent more on graphics and decals than you have in gas, for the whole year
* You sound like you're going 90, but you're creeping past 25
* You upgraded to the "big bore" 2 inch exhaust
* You lose 2 mpg by installing a body kit
* Your wing is so large that if you go faster than 65, your bumper drags
* You think "displacement" is something that happens to homeless people
* Yugo's give you a run for the money
* You continuously run red lights because they are invisible thru your red window tint
* 15's are considered HUGE rims
* You can reach back and defrost the rear window by hand
* You will race anyone, anytime, and already know that you will lose
*You think Moby is one of the greatest composers of our time
* You spend all your money pimping it out because spending money to make it faster is a waste
* Your little sister is the only one impressed with your car
* When you win a race, you don't really win, it's just that the other guy felt soooo sorry for you
* You think your mom's Corolla is fast
* The cross section of your exhaust tip is bigger than the contact patch of your tires
* Your after market tach is bigger than your fist
* You bought the big ass tach to try to scare off the fast cars
* But all it does is let people know how hard you have to push it to exceed the legal speed limit
* You rev on school buses
* Hell, you rev on people in electric wheelchairs
* You buy and install custom rims a pair at a time
* YOU REALIZE THAT ALL OF THE ABOVE IS TRUE AND YOU STILL THINK YOU'RE COOL!!!
* You've entered a 12 step program called "How to come to terms with your limitations"
* The bill of your hat gets caught when you roll the window up
* You really want to kick my ass right now
* You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and don't know what they're for
* You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and DO know what they're for
* You go to the auto paint store and pick out the most retina burning color you can find
* You buy race gas to drop you from 17.02 to 16.9 in the quarter, and then tell all your friends how fast you went
* You add a second battery to power all the neon, and the mini disco ball
* You add a wing on TOP of your car, 'cause wagons need down force too
* You've ever painted bare, raw fiberglass black and said "Look! It's just like carbon fiber!"
* You get pimped out props from the mini truck crowd
* You still only get dates from high school girls
* You actually own a pair of light up glasses from Checker Auto
* When you install your super phat wing, you put the pointy ends up
* You purchase and install a body kit, one piece at a time
* You saw the "Rice Boy" magazine in the back of Sport Compact, and inquired about a subscription
* Your brother is pissed cause you stole the muffler off his dirt bike (it was a direct fit!)
* Your dad is worried cause you bought a car with less displacement than his lawnmower
[QUOTE=Ferosso;20604384]What is a ricer, my good man?[/QUOTE]
Ricers are people that make unnecessary modifications to their (Usually) Import cars, to give off the impression that their shitty civic or corolla or whatever has awesome performance. Then the light turns green and their shitty oversized plastic spoiler breaks off when the tape holding it down breaks.
[QUOTE=Captain Lawlrus;20604519]Ricers are people that make unnecessary modifications to their (Usually) Import cars, to give off the impression that their shitty civic or corolla or whatever has awesome performance. Then the light turns green and their shitty oversized plastic spoiler breaks off when the tape holding it down breaks.[/QUOTE]
Looks above your post. NO idea how you missed it. But yeah pretty much, Ive beaten ricers in my Toyota Tacoma.
[QUOTE=EurofanBMW;20604603]Looks above your post. NO idea how you missed it. But yeah pretty much, Ive beaten ricers in my Toyota Tacoma.[/QUOTE]
I was ninja'd hence the fact it says your post was a minute before mine. :fuckoff:
Plus my post wasn't copypasta
[QUOTE=Captain Lawlrus;20604624]I was ninja'd hence the fact it says your post was a minute before mine. :fuckoff:
Plus my post wasn't copypasta[/QUOTE]
Fair enough haha. We cool? We both hate ricers. I think we cool.
Ricers are idiots. If you modify the looks of your car testefully AND you have the performance to back it up, then you aren't a ricer.
We cool.
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=256697&dateline=1263625311[/img]:respek:[img]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=202811&dateline=1265439094[/img]
[QUOTE=Apocalypsox;20604703]Ricers are idiots. If you modify the looks of your car testefully AND you have the performance to back it up, then you aren't a ricer.[/QUOTE]
if the rice that drive FWD hondas knew how to tune them right, you can take off in those cars with the right suspension
I agree, ricers are ridicolous. But even more ridicolous are the people who can't tell properly styled/tuned japanese cars from ricers.
[QUOTE=Ferosso;20605074]I agree, ricers are ridicolous. But even more ridicolous are the people who can't tell properly styled/tuned japanese cars from ricers.[/QUOTE]
Sleepers are where it's at.
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