• TheAmazingAtheist: "I will make you a rape victim if you don't fuck off"
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[QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623181]8% is not a few times. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#False_reporting[/url][/QUOTE] less than a single sentence after the 8 percent statistic: [QUOTE]"However, “unfounded” is not synonymous with false allegation (que bigass quote which explains why there 8 percent statistic is useless)"[/QUOTE] jesus fucking christ if you're going to post a link that supposedly supports your point of view [b]make sure that it actually does support your view in the first place[/b] lol look at this scrub posting a link that actually proves him wronger than he was before. [editline]9th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623238]What does women's rights have to do with some girl who is too afraid to go to the police? Oh I guess men are oppressing her right to report a rape I forgot.[/QUOTE] [b]YES[/b]. It's called rape culture. I'd ask you to maybe read up on it but we both know that you'd never in a million years do anything like that. [b]You are doing it right now[/b] by throwing around faulty statistics in an effort to prove that women commonly use false rape accusations as a means of revenge.
what are you even discussing
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;34623150]"women falsely accuse men of rape as a means of revenge or harassment" is the absolute most repugnant, bottomfeeder MRA bullshit in the world. "it has probably happened a few times over the course of world history" does not equal "it's ok for me to suggest this as a possibility whenever someone's account of having been raped conflicts with whatever bullshit argument I'm trying to make" you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. [editline]9th February 2012[/editline] hey if you're going pull this "lol u trolling?" bullshit whenever anyone disagrees with you then just get the fuck out because you obviously don't give a shit about actually accomplishing anything.[/QUOTE] Yeah man wow you're right. Cutting off the foreskin to hinder sexual pleasure is totally different from cutting off the clitoris to hinder sexual pleasure. I never planned on accomplishing anything because I knew most of you would be too ignorant to look at it from a different viewpoint from the start. All you're all going to do is change the context of my post to demonize me, so I'm not going to waste anymore of my time.
[QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623238]What does women's rights have to do with some girl who is too afraid to go to the police? Oh I guess men are oppressing her right to report a rape I forgot.[/QUOTE] Probably more to do with the low conviction rate and that she'll be one of those accused with making it up On a side note why do you think male rape is almost never reported?
[QUOTE=Combine_dumb;34623270]Yeah man wow you're right. Cutting off the foreskin to hinder sexual pleasure is totally different from cutting off the clitoris to hinder sexual pleasure. I never planned on accomplishing anything because I knew most of you would be too ignorant to look at it from a different viewpoint from the start. All you're all going to do is change the context of my post to demonize me, so I'm not going to waste anymore of my time.[/QUOTE] listen bro, I'm a "victim" of "male genital mutilation" and I can tell you that what (assumedly) you and I went through in a modernized hospital is not equitable to what young girls suffer from in Africa.
[QUOTE=James*;34623276]Probably more to do with the low conviction rate and that she'll be one of those accused with making it up On a side note why do you think male rape is almost never reported?[/QUOTE] Yes I'm sure that's why women don't report being raped, statistics. Perfect sense.
[QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623395]Yes I'm sure that's why women don't report being raped, statistics. Perfect sense.[/QUOTE] lol do you have another "source" to back that up (but that actually proves you wrong)?
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;34623462]lol do you have another "source" to back that up (but that actually proves you wrong)?[/QUOTE] The source that "proves me wrong" links back to a 404, so I'd love to read what proves me wrong.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;34623319]listen bro, I'm a "victim" of "male genital mutilation" and I can tell you that what (assumedly) you and I went through in a modernized hospital is not equitable to what young girls suffer from in Africa.[/QUOTE] What about young boys in Africa when they're circumcised? I'm sure they have modernized male-only hospitals just for them.
[QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623483]The source that "proves me wrong" links back to a 404, so I'd love to read what proves me wrong.[/QUOTE] i mean this one: [QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623181]8% is not a few times. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#False_reporting[/url][/QUOTE] the one that you just posted. the link that you tried to use to prove that "8 percent of rapes are false accusations" but actually explains why far, far less than 8 percent of rapes are false accusations
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;34623505]i mean this one: the one that you just posted[/QUOTE] You know how wikipedia works, right? It isn't actually a source, but a collection of sources. That's what those little numbers next to the words are.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34623486]What about young boys in Africa when they're circumcised? I'm sure they have modernized male-only hospitals just for them.[/QUOTE] but despite whatever origins might be attributed to male circumcision, the reason it is practiced in africa today is because of religious orthodoxy and tradition whereas female genital mutilation is a modern attempt specifically intended as an attack on female sexuality. not to mention that the latter is far more detrimental to the sexual function of a person than the former. [editline]9th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623521]You know how wikipedia works, right? It isn't actually a source, but a collection of sources. That's what those little numbers next to the words are.[/QUOTE] yes. And you posted a source claiming that it proved something to the effect that 8 percent of rape accusations are intentionally false accusations; but immediately after that 8 percent statistic is provided, an additional source clearly explains why claiming that 8 percent of rape accusations are intentionally false accusations is pretty much patently wrong. you posted the wikipedia link as proof of something but the link basically proved the opposite of what you were trying to say.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;34623571]yes. And you posted a source claiming that it proved something to the effect that 8 percent of rape accusations are intentionally false accusations; but immediately after that 8 percent statistic is provided, an additional source clearly explains why claiming that 8 percent of rape accusations are intentionally false accusations is pretty much patently wrong.[/QUOTE] Yes and the source that "proves me wrong" 404s.
[QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623607]Yes and the source that "proves me wrong" 404s.[/QUOTE][url]http://resurrectionafterrape.org/media/False_Allegations.pdf[/url] happy now??
[QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623607]Yes and the source that "proves me wrong" 404s.[/QUOTE] No, IT IS THIS ONE: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#False_reporting[/url] THE ONE YOU JUST POSTED [editline]9th February 2012[/editline] YOU POSTED THIS: [QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623181]8% is not a few times. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#False_reporting[/url][/QUOTE] TO PROVE THAT 8 PERCENT OF RAPE ACCUSATIONS ARE INTENTIONALLY FALSE BUT THE LINK IN THIS POST, THAT YOU POSTED [QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623181]8% is not a few times. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#False_reporting[/url][/QUOTE] EXPLAINS THAT: [QUOTE]This statistic is almost meaningless, as many of the jurisdictions from which the FBI collects data on crime use different definitions of, or criteria for, "unfounded." That is, a report of rape might be classified as unfounded (rather than as forcible rape) if the alleged victim did not try to fight off the suspect, if the alleged perpetrator did not use physical force or a weapon of some sort, if the alleged victim did not sustain any physical injuries, or if the alleged victim and the accused had a prior sexual relationship. Similarly, a report might be deemed unfounded if there is no physical evidence or too many inconsistencies between the accuser's statement and what evidence does exist. As such, although some unfounded cases of rape may be false or fabricated, not all unfounded cases are false.[10][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;34623622][url]http://resurrectionafterrape.org/media/False_Allegations.pdf[/url] happy now??[/QUOTE] It is semantics, but according to the FBI 8% of rape cases are false. In the state of Oregon it is different. [quote]Unfounding is a method of investigative case closure (or clearance) intended to denote a specific outcome of an investigation. Unfounded is not synonymous with false allegation. Below are two distinct definitions of Unfounded, one definition is used in child abuse investigations by the Department of Human Services in Oregon and the other definition is used by law enforcement agencies nationwide. o Oregon Department of Human Services, Child Protective Services – Oregon Administrative Rules 413-015-1000(2)(b) defines “Unfounded” to mean that no evidence of child abuse or neglect was identified or disclosed. o Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Reporting—Defines Case Unfounding, used by law enforcement agencies, as a reported case that is investigated and found to be false or baseless. [/quote] [editline]9th February 2012[/editline] Not to mention the Oregon definition doesn't even have anything to do with rape, but with CPS.
[QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623669]It is semantics, but according to the FBI 8% of rape cases are false. In the state of Oregon it is different.[/QUOTE] No, not "false", unfounded. That's the entire point. You said that "8 percent of rape accusations are false" but that is wrong because it is actually "8 percent of rape accusations are unfounded" with unfounded having a wildly different meaning from "false" it's not semantics, it's you being wrong.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;34623707]No, not "false", unfounded. That's the entire point. You said that "8 percent of rape accusations are false" but that is wrong because it is actually "8 percent of rape accusations are unfounded" with unfounded having a wildly different meaning from "false" it's not semantics, it's you being wrong.[/QUOTE] I don't see where I said false, do you? I'm actually pretty much done arguing with you, because it seems like you don't have the brain capacity to understand Wikipedia none the less rape statistics. [editline]9th February 2012[/editline] [quote]Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Reporting—Defines Case Unfounding, used by law enforcement agencies, as a reported case that is investigated and found to be [B]false or baseless.[/B][/quote]
[QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623727]I don't see where I said false, do you?[/QUOTE] right here: [QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623181]8% is not a few times. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#False_reporting[/url][/QUOTE] you posted this in response to me saying "false rape accusations as a means of getting revenge has probably only happened a few times" ergo, you said "8 percent is not a few times (for women to falsely accuse a man of rape as a means of revenge)" [QUOTE=ketchup v2;34623727] [editline]9th February 2012[/editline][QUOTE]Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Reporting—Defines Case Unfounding, used by law enforcement agencies, as a reported case that is investigated and found to be false or baseless.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] yeah, and: [QUOTE]This statistic is almost meaningless, [b]as many of the jurisdictions from which the FBI collects data on crime use different definitions of, or criteria for, "unfounded."[/b] That is, a report of rape might be classified as unfounded (rather than as forcible rape) if the alleged victim did not try to fight off the suspect, if the alleged perpetrator did not use physical force or a weapon of some sort, if the alleged victim did not sustain any physical injuries, or if the alleged victim and the accused had a prior sexual relationship. Similarly, a report might be deemed unfounded if there is no physical evidence or too many inconsistencies between the accuser's statement and what evidence does exist. As such, although some unfounded cases of rape may be false or fabricated, not all unfounded cases are false.[10][/QUOTE]
Can you guys think about this. This is the motherfucking internet, people say dumb things all the fucking time. Do they mean it, no. Are they going to act on it, no. So why are you acting like he went up to her, in person, and said this? Just fucking drop it.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;34624066]Can you guys think about this. This is the motherfucking internet, people say dumb things all the fucking time. Do they mean it, no. Are they going to act on it, no. So why are you acting like he went up to her, in person, and said this? Just fucking drop it.[/QUOTE] I'm actually positive people on the internet give their real opinions and thoughts, especially on anonymous boards because there are no repercussions of what they do say, their real life isn't effected. Though of course you have to highlight people who are trolling and those who are sincere.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;34622194]Somehow I can't help but feel that if this were a guy being mocked by TAA for his rape, this thread wouldn't even exist.[/QUOTE] Oh hi Starpluck Commandeering accounts I see
Why is everyone disagreeing with combine_dumb? Everything he has said has been completely reasonable. And also, he has said sorry and that he regrets it. Now you can believe him or not, but I happen to believe that people mean regret when they say something this monumentally stupid.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;34624066]Can you guys think about this. This is the motherfucking internet, people say dumb things all the fucking time. Do they mean it, no. Are they going to act on it, no. So why are you acting like he went up to her, in person, and said this? Just fucking drop it.[/QUOTE] the internet is a real thing. the internet exists. words that are said over the internet do not have some magical "do not matter" quality applied to them.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;34622054]Do you really think he would stop flaming after she said stop?[/QUOTE] Yeah it's called stop replying and leaving the thread. It's not even like a FP thread, it's a reddit thread. She could have simply stopped replying to his conversation strand with her and still would have been able to participate in every single other conversation about whatever was posted.
This thread is now bad enough that I no longer even want to tell everyone about all the weird shit TAA likes anymore for comedy relief.
no, please do
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;34624504]the internet is a real thing. the internet exists. words that are said over the internet do not have some magical "do not matter" quality applied to them.[/QUOTE] that's it guys we've gone soft were a bunch of pussies now RIP 2005 internet
People are allowed to say shitty things to people, and we are allowed to say shitty things about them in return. It is not a simple concept. We are offended about what this TAA guy said. Does not mean we turned into a bunch of pussies; it means we are not passive enough to ignore it.
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;34625014]that's it guys we've gone soft were a bunch of pussies now RIP 2005 internet[/QUOTE] back in 2005 you would be called an "internet tough guy"
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