TheAmazingAtheist: "I will make you a rape victim if you don't fuck off"

[Trunk Monkay]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606121]So you would prefer someone to be alive in pain than it not being wrong for them to top themself? I wouldn't suggest they do it, but I'm not going to condemn someone for doing that.[/QUOTE]

A terminal illness, Alzheimers, terminal cancer, maybe is a valid reason for Euthanasia. But depression, sadness, stress, or past events isn't a valid reason in my eyes.

[TheJoey]

What a dick.

[Bawbag]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;34606135]"Killing someone while they you are raping said person is possibly manslaughter" - Bawbbag[/QUOTE]

[quote]man·slaugh·ter/ˈmanˌslôtər/
Noun:
The crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.[/quote]

Learn english.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;34606142]A terminal illness, Alzheimers, terminal cancer, maybe is a valid reason for Euthanasia. But depression, sadness, stress, or past events isn't a valid reason in my eyes.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say it was a valid reason. In their eyes, it might be. If they want to kill themself, who are we to tell them they aren't allowed to?

[Protocol7]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606121]So you would prefer someone to be alive in pain than it not being wrong for them to top themself? I wouldn't suggest they do it, but I'm not going to condemn someone for doing that..[/QUOTE]

If someone wants to kill themselves after being raped they have deeper issues.

I'm not saying rape isn't serious, I'm saying that suicide (whether crudely or euthanasia) is not a coping mechanism for a traumatic experience.

[Funcoot]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34605650]He still makes well-spoken anti-religious videos debunking all the bullshit that surrounds religion but he's still an idiot and an asshole in all other regards.[/QUOTE]

Some of them are good, but some of them are actually very poor. When he argues completely on logic, he does fine, but when he brings scripture into it, he completely pulls it out of context, a lot like Fox does with anything that has to do with Obama. I don't think he does it on purpose though. Sometimes I think he uses evil-bible.com to find his scripture and arguments, which is bad because that site has the same issue.

This guy just seems too angry.

[Penultimate]

I personally think it was completely tasteless to say, "I'll make you a rape victim." That's... pretty fucking scummy.

[Noble]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606121]Agreed. I just think that if someone wants to die, I'm not going to tell them otherwise. Ultimately if they do it its their own choice.[/QUOTE]

So what if that person could be talked out of it and later say something like "Wow, I was gonna kill myself a few years ago, but you made me realize that life is worth living, thank you".

[Bawbag]

[QUOTE=Noble;34606170]So what if that person could be talked out of it and later say something like "Wow, I was gonna kill myself a few years ago, but you made me realize that life is worth living, thank you".[/QUOTE]

If that were the case, they weren't going to kill themself anyway.

[Protocol7]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606151]I didn't say it was a valid reason. In their eyes, it might be. If they want to kill themself, who are we to tell them they aren't allowed to?[/QUOTE]

So I have lower back pains due to scoliosis. My hip locks up sometimes which hurts. Legally, I could be considered disabled. It it okay for me to commit suicide? I mean, completely barring the fact that people close to me would be hurt, severely.

[Bawbag]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34606187]So I have lower back pains due to scoliosis. My hip locks up sometimes which hurts. Legally, I could be considered disabled. It it okay for me to commit suicide? I mean, completely barring the fact that people close to me would be hurt, severely.[/QUOTE]

I don't see why not. If you want to die, you want to die. There's nothing anyone can say that will persuade you otherwise.

The people who "are persuaded" are the ones who had second thoughts about killing themself in the first place.

[Protocol7]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606180]If that were the case, they weren't going to kill themself anyway.[/QUOTE]

are you

what

so you're saying if you convince someone that they shouldn't kill themselves then by all means they were obviously not going to kill themselves

[Trunk Monkay]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606151]
I didn't say it was a valid reason. In their eyes, it might be. If they want to kill themself, who are we to tell them they aren't allowed to?[/QUOTE]

Because it's a selfish act. What happens to their friends, siblings, parents, relatives when a person commits suicide? A friend of my sister's just jumped off the balcony of his parents condo last year, because of that my sister lost her best friend and shes had to go onto depression medication. As for his parents, he was an only child and his parents, well into their 50's, lost their only child.

[Bawbag]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34606202]are you

what

so you're saying if you convince someone that they shouldn't kill themselves then by all means they were obviously not going to kill themselves[/QUOTE]

Yes.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;34606210]Because it's a selfish act. What happens to their friends, siblings, parents, relatives when a person commits suicide? A friend of my sister's just jumped off the balcony of his parents condo last year, because of that my sister lost her best friend and shes had to go onto depression medication. As for his parents, he was an only child and his parents, well into their 50's, lost their only child.[/QUOTE]

If your sister's friend already had their mind set on killing themself, they would have done it anyway. Suicidal people are suicidal for a reason, the underlying effect can't be talked down in 99% of circumstances.

[The Adjudicator]

Isn't this the guy that stuck a cucumber up his butt and has a tiny dick?

I don't think I would ever listen to this guy.

[Penultimate]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34606187]So I have lower back pains due to scoliosis. My hip locks up sometimes which hurts. Legally, I could be considered disabled. It it okay for me to commit suicide? I mean, completely barring the fact that people close to me would be hurt, severely.[/QUOTE]

Holy shit. Is that why my hips sometimes hurt? Anyway. I think everyone can agree that it's a pretty horrible thing to go through, and I personally thinking joking about rape is completely in poor taste.

[Noble]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606201]The people who "are persuaded" are the ones who had second thoughts about killing themself in the first place.[/QUOTE]

Or maybe they didn't have second thoughts until you convinced them otherwise. To say that everyone who gets convinced not to suicide never intended to kill themselves is too big of a generalization and I don't think it is consistent with reality.

[Patriarch]

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;34606210]Because it's a selfish act. What happens to their friends, siblings, parents, relatives when a person commits suicide? A friend of my sister's just jumped off the balcony of his parents condo last year, because of that my sister lost her best friend and shes had to go onto depression medication. As for his parents, he was an only child and his parents, well into their 50's, lost their only child.[/QUOTE]
A person's life is there own and they can do whatever they want with it, even end it.
It can be really traumatizing for family and friends, but it's quite rich to call the one killing themselves selfish, given what they're doing.

[Trunk Monkay]

[QUOTE=Craptasket;34606214]Isn't this the guy that stuck a cucumber up his butt and has a tiny dick?

I don't think would ever listen to this guy.[/QUOTE]

banana

[[Seed Eater]]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606211]Yes.

If your sister's friend already had their mind set on killing themself, they would have done it anyway. Suicidal people are suicidal for a reason, the underlying effect can't be talked down in 99% of circumstances.[/QUOTE]

That's bullshit. Even a basic psychology class will tell you otherwise.

[[Seed Eater]]

[QUOTE=Craptasket;34606214]Isn't this the guy that stuck a cucumber up his butt and has a tiny dick?

I don't think would ever listen to this guy.[/QUOTE]

"What this guy does in his private life, the size of his dick, and what he does with fruits and his anus is a factor in if I believe his opinions and statements are worth listening to."

[Protocol7]

So, if it's completely okay for me to take my own life, then it's completely okay for me to take someone else's life. I've already got my mind set on killing, say, my neighbor. Are you going to stop me, or are you going to let me go in there and kill the guy, leaving his wife widowed and his kids without a father, all because I truly wanted the guy dead? I really wanted to. I really want to take his life, so what's different about preventing people from taking their own life?

[Patroclus Rex]

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];34606265']"What this guy does in his private life, the size of his dick, and what he does with fruits and his anus is a factor in if I believe his opinions and statements are worth listening to."[/QUOTE]

Yep.

[The Adjudicator]

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];34606265']"What this guy does in his private life, the size of his dick, and what he does with fruits and his anus is a factor in if I believe his opinions and statements are worth listening to."[/QUOTE]

Isn't it obvious he's talking shit about religion because god gave him a tiny dick

think

[Patroclus Rex]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34606280]So, if it's completely okay for me to take my own life, then it's completely okay for me to take someone else's life. I've already got my mind set on killing, say, my neighbor. Are you going to stop me, or are you going to let me go in there and kill the guy, leaving his wife widowed and his kids without a father, all because I truly wanted the guy dead? I really wanted to. I really want to take his life, so what's different about preventing people from taking their own life?[/QUOTE]

The fuck did you get to that conclusion?

[Shoopiwoop]

I don't really believe the "actually i am a rape victim" at all.

[Bawbag]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34606280]So, if it's completely okay for me to take my own life, then it's completely okay for me to take someone else's life. I've already got my mind set on killing, say, my neighbor. Are you going to stop me, or are you going to let me go in there and kill the guy, leaving his wife widowed and his kids without a father, all because I truly wanted the guy dead? I really wanted to. I really want to take his life, so what's different about preventing people from taking their own life?[/QUOTE]

It isn't your life to end.

[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34606252]What point are you trying to prove?[/QUOTE]

That he was wrong?

[Patriarch]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34606280]So, if it's completely okay for me to take my own life, then it's completely okay for me to take someone else's life. I've already got my mind set on killing, say, my neighbor. Are you going to stop me, or are you going to let me go in there and kill the guy, leaving his wife widowed and his kids without a father, all because I truly wanted the guy dead? I really wanted to. I really want to take his life, so what's different about preventing people from taking their own life?[/QUOTE]
That's asinine defined.
There's a huge difference between taking your own life, [i]which is your own[/i], and taking the life of someone else, [i]which is not yours[/i].

[Protocol7]

[QUOTE=Bawbag;34606299]It isn't your life to end.[/QUOTE]

I didn't choose to start his life and I didn't choose to start mine. What gives me the right to take mine away and not take his away?

[Penultimate]

[QUOTE=Shoopiwoop;34606294]I don't really believe the "actually i am a rape victim" at all.[/QUOTE]

Well, whether they were raped or not, I still think saying you're going to rape someone is in poor taste.

[Bawbag]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;34606313]I didn't choose to start his life and I didn't choose to start mine. What gives me the right to take it away and not take his away?[/QUOTE]

Your life is your choice. His life is his choice. Ending your life early, should only be your choice.