日本雑談スレ2 - General

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;47797525]what's a good way to stay there in term's of hotel well besides hostel and/or hostel.? like can you rent a spot out for a week or something.? ( Tokyo and/or othere mAjor city's.? )[/QUOTE] try out airbnb i use it when i travel to other cities in the states and you can meet some really nice people.

So if I'm hearin' this straight- 大 is "big" and 丈夫 is "strong" but 大丈夫 is "all right". Because right now I'm imagining a grieving family comforting eachother, patting backs and whispering [I]"bigstrong"[/I]

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;48208821]So if I'm hearin' this straight- 大 is "big" and 丈夫 is "strong" but 大丈夫 is "all right". Because right now I'm imagining a grieving family comforting eachother, patting backs and whispering [I]"bigstrong"[/I][/QUOTE] One of the things I love is that "telephone" is pretty much "electric conversation."　電話 Also, I've probably linked this skit before, but [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frFUdx_PMgA[/media]

Some words are written with irrelevant kanji simply because of their phonetic value. Neither of the kanji in the word 寿司 (sushi) mean anything relating to food :v:

Went over to Japan for a quick holiday a few months back. Kyoto was by far my favorite city, but the whole country really is beautiful. [T]http://puu.sh/gXA0B/d45705d8bc.jpg[/T] [T]http://puu.sh/gOGbU/10e9520fca.JPG[/T] I had a lot of fun chatting to random uni students in bar's, they are always interested in foreigners!

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;48208861]One of the things I love is that "telephone" is pretty much "electric conversation."　電話 Also, I've probably linked this skit before, but[/QUOTE] It's great how I understand more everytime this gets posted. What does やばい even mean, my dictionary says amazing, awful, terrible and terrific and I've seen it used both ways, is it like shit vs the shit or something?

So uh, sorry if this has been asked a thousand times before, but what is the best way to learn Japanese? I know about hiragana and katana (and learned it before, but I'll have to relearn it) but what in terms of learning words, sentences, etc. ?

genki

Oh yeah, I've got another question, since everybody does this differently: do you learn hiragana and katana at the same time, or master hiragana first?

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;48211583]Oh yeah, I've got another question, since everybody does this differently: do you learn hiragana and katana at the same time, or master hiragana first?[/QUOTE] Learn one, then the other, and practice as a mix once you think you've got an alright handle on them

Just remember, ツ, シ, ン, and ソ are the incarnates of Satan because you'll mess them up for ages.

as long as they aren't used as smiley faces i'm cool with them

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;48212918]Just remember, ツ, シ, ン, and ソ are the incarnates of Satan because you'll mess them up for ages.[/QUOTE] シ is the easiest to remember, just imagine a hoodlum leaning out his car window going "shiiieeeet". Right now I'm trying to learn これ、その、この、あれ and all that jazz. The difference between them is easily explained but memorising is a BITCH. [editline]17th July 2015[/editline] Though I guess it doesn't work perfectly for people living in weird countries where the driver sits on the left.

i had more trouble memorizing this that etc in spanish than in japanese tbh

The things you guys are having problems with are piss easy. I, instead, am having problems with grasping the difference between 用意, 準備 and 支度. All of them translate to 'preparation', while also the latter two can be translated as 'arrangements'. Thank goodness those aren't homonyms.

grammar is easy, kanji is ghe fucking devil and that one video of that white dude complaining about kanji is 100% spot on

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;48228719]grammar is easy, kanji is ghe fucking devil and that one video of that white dude complaining about kanji is 100% spot on[/QUOTE] WHY JAPANESE PEOPLE, WHY?! Kanji is a bitch. Since I've started doing vocab I've seen kanji with different pronunciations and meanings pop up a bunch and it confuses and annoys me. I'm not even really bothering to try to learn the kanji for the sake of the kanji, I just try to remember that x word is drawn like such. Like 音楽 and 楽しい, same kanji, different pronunciations, the words mean totally different things, and I still have no idea what the kanji itself is supposed to mean.

Just wondering, how do you know how to pronounce kanji (I know that I'm definitely not at the point where that might be useful for me, but I'm really wondering how).

You gotta memorize it

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;48229384]Just wondering, how do you know how to pronounce kanji (I know that I'm definitely not at the point where that might be useful for me, but I'm really wondering how).[/QUOTE] Rote memorization. English speakers can find it more helpful to use mnemonics to remmeber, Japanese people learn through just rote memorization though. If its any consolation Japanese people find kanji hard as well, I used to ask my wife to read me what certain things say on monuments and pillars and shit and she would just tell me she couldn't because it was too hard lol.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;48229660]Rote memorization. English speakers can find it more helpful to use mnemonics to remmeber, Japanese people learn through just rote memorization though. If its any consolation Japanese people find kanji hard as well, I used to ask my wife to read me what certain things say on monuments and pillars and shit and she would just tell me she couldn't because it was too hard lol.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that helps a bit haha. Aren't most things written out by the way?

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;48229210]I still have no idea what the kanji itself is supposed to mean.[/QUOTE] I suggest using [URL="https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/rikaikun/jipdnfibhldikgcjhfnomkfpcebammhp?hl=en"]rikaikun[/URL] for that, it's really useful, as it shows the meanings and pronunciation of the words and kanji themselves. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cxf7Dbb.png[/IMG]

Memorize the word. You gotta know that a certain combination of kanji makes up a certain word and that they're pronounced a certain way. I don't know about the 誕 in 誕生日, but the 生 has more pronunciations and meanings than I care to remember, and the 日 has its own fair share as well, but you just have to know that that particular combination is pronounced "tanjoubi." [editline]17th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Puvleek;48229750]I suggest using [URL="https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/rikaikun/jipdnfibhldikgcjhfnomkfpcebammhp?hl=en"]rikaikun[/URL] for that, it's really useful, as it shows the meanings and pronunciation of the words and kanji themselves. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cxf7Dbb.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I use rikaichan on Firefox already. And how does comfort relate to music?

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;48229839]I use rikaichan on Firefox already.[/QUOTE] Then, as far as browsers are concerned, you can easily find an answer to the question 'what does the x kanji mean'. [QUOTE=DaCommie1;48229839]And how does comfort relate to music?[/QUOTE] Probably the same way how dogs are related to being fat/big. I mean, how the hell am I supposed to know that? That kanji seems to exist in Chinese language, so some sort of linguistic occurrence might have happened during the process of its adaptation to Japanese.

So uh, I've been practicing writing and memorising hiragana now, but is there some good source for simple words that I can really practice hiragana with? I remember words like red were used to sort of learn people to read hiragana.

So i remembered i saw something interesting while waiting for a bus in Japan. [T]http://puu.sh/iQbmn/539f795d98.jpg[/T] [URL="https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0183,135.741718,3a,15y,115.69h,87.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVylX-ixNrrXhYmT5vBU_Xg!2e0!5s20150301T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en"]https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0183,135.741718,3a,15y,115.69h,87.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVylX-ixNrrXhYmT5vBU_Xg!2e0!5s20150301T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en[/URL] Google is watching. :ok:

[QUOTE=Puvleek;48230145]Then, as far as browsers are concerned, you can easily find an answer to the question 'what does the x kanji mean'. Probably the same way how dogs are related to being fat/big. I mean, how the hell am I supposed to know that? That kanji seems to exist in Chinese language, so some sort of linguistic occurrence might have happened during the process of its adaptation to Japanese.[/QUOTE] The thing with using rikaichan to do that is I don't remember it. I see it and go "that's interesting," and then forget it literally as the popup closes.

I have developed a hatred for string at this point, there are too many: 納糸細絹索線系総綿紛紹

Mini rant ほんや is super easy to remember, but what I forget is to double-tap that N key so the IME keeps putting it out as ほにゃ.

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;48258197]Mini rant ほんや is super easy to remember, but what I forget is to double-tap that N key so the IME keeps putting it out as ほにゃ.[/QUOTE] What I found surprising was the fact that when you write 翻訳 (ほんやく) as ほにゃく you can still convert it to the correct kanji.