Schizophrenia onset, would it have been caused by weed? - General

I can promise you that you didn't get abducted by aliens. Try and see the silliness in that and maybe you'll sane up

A friend of mine has dementia, and she self-medicates by reading books. Maybe you could try it out and see if it calms you down? I'm not really knowledgeable on this subject, but I hope my advice helps at least some.

I'm sorry stayblazed, and I mean this in this most respectful way, but I disagree. What's so insane about finding a (I think) reasonable explanation as to why my life has turned around. I'm not blaming it on anybody I know, I'm not listening to what the voices tell me to do, they don't like it so they give me huge headaches. I've just realised, I have the Scientology illness. :v: Damn it Xenu (Just kidding).

I've been led on my bed staring into space for hours listening to the verve playlists It's like I'm high but I'm not Everything's weird and false

[QUOTE=Aaronn;20852847]Debatable. I've seen both sides of the argument and nothing is conclusive. My dads a machinist. There are many different kinds of aluminum and I'm sure they would use the cheapest, shittiest, and most malleable type of aluminum as store-bought foil. For example, many train-cars that tow coal are made from aluminum. That's some of the sturdiest aluminum available and it's melting point is much higher than average. If there are any veteran welders here, they could probably tell you all about the variation of specific metals[/QUOTE] Generally all store bought aluminum foils are 99.8% aluminum. The other .2% are chemicals used in the manufacturing, which are burned off during smelting. Unless it is extremely cheap aluminum foil, you are safe. If you notice black stuff on the foil, it's resin. If you notice the aluminum crumbling after a few hits, you should find a generic aluminum foil. Don't use candy wrappers (gum wrappers, hershy wrappers, etc) as they have paper, binders, preservatives and other chemicals inside of the foil. [editline]01:49PM[/editline] On-topic, schizophrenia and manic depression are both two disorders I have seen develop quicker through smoking weed. More so, psychedelics can cause even more rapid development of any underlying mental disorders. Tread lightly if you think you have any disorders. I've lost a good friend of mine after he stupidly did shrooms twice knowing he had manic depression, and now he is a zombie from all of the medications he has to take to keep him in check. [editline]01:52PM[/editline] Good luck :\

[QUOTE=Octave;20852269]and it doesn't, the melting point of aluminum is nowhere near that of a lighter's flame[/QUOTE] I have a butane torch and I melt aluminum cans with ease.

I've watched a documentary(The Evil Weed), where it said that if you smoke weed as a teenager, your chances to get shizophrenia increase(from 1% to 6%). Pretty much offtopic, but there was a guy that told after he smoked weed like every day for a year and then stopped a whole year, he started to hear voices. First one, then more and more until 12 different voices. One was like a girl he had only seen a few times and she always told him that he should kill himself. Or one told him he should clean the house and all the cleaning utilities had to be the same color. Regarding the english name, it's "Die Wahrheit über Cannabis"(The truth about cannabis) in german, I found it was a pretty neutral documentary, since that therapist always stated that cannabis isn't as harmful as alcohol or other, harder drugs.

Specialist tomorrow, wish me luck. :sigh:

I wish you luck :D.

On a pretty high dosage of meds now It's fucking weird and trippy. I don't want to live like this, but I don't want to live with how I am normally either.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;21000865]On a pretty high dosage of meds now It's fucking weird and trippy. I don't want to live like this, but I don't want to live with how I am normally either.[/QUOTE] What exactly is weird about it? Do you feel "normal"?

No, I feel tranquilised, numb, everything is enhanced and empty

What medical were you prescribed? Risperdol? Zyprexa? Hope you start feeling an improvement soon buddy.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21001085]What medical were you prescribed? Risperdol? Zyprexa? Hope you start feeling an improvement soon buddy.[/QUOTE] Olanzapine (Zyprexa) Thanks man, I hope so too. :)

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;21001688]Olanzapine (Zyprexa) Thanks man, I hope so too. :)[/QUOTE] Is your avatar Elfen Lied?

[QUOTE=Weirdo009;21002171]Is your avatar Elfen Lied?[/QUOTE] Yes

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;21002182]Yes[/QUOTE] Thought so(:

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;21000932]No, I feel tranquilised, numb, everything is enhanced and empty[/QUOTE] That is some strange combination of mood/emotions/whatever. Also, I hope you will get better soon.

Felt pretty sedated throughout the day, they wore off at about 18:00, 1 hour ago. I'll need a stronger dosage I think

I advice you read all of this about weed and schizophrenia [url]http://blog.norml.org/2010/03/01/weeding-through-the-hype-interpreting-the-latest-warnings-about-pot-and-schizophrenia/[/url] Weed is a catalyst for existing mental disorders pretty much like any other drug doesn't necessary make the conditions worse or better but can make the disorder appear quicker as studies show in that link that people who smoke weed and have schizophrenia are much better off than people who don't but don't take my whole word for it and read the study.

Something that's VERY interesting is that Schizophrenia is related heavily to dopamine and 74% of people with Schizophrenia (I THINK) smoked cigarettes before their condition materialised. It appears that people with a predisposition seek out dopamine-related drugs to take the edge off. There's no doubt that Marijuana can be life changing if you have enough, and anything that can change your life can do it for the better or for worse. However, I'm still not convinced that weed can ever be blamed for schizophrenia, I believe it just is a coping mechanism for people who already have it brewing inside of them. Also, I should mention that Nicotine has effects on dopamine, it's not ENTIRELY clear what it does but it's a very interesting substance. Small puffs stimulate, large puffs relax, very cool drug, shame that it's packaged in carcinogenic tobacco.

[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21019478]Something that's VERY interesting is that Schizophrenia is related heavily to dopamine and 74% of people with Schizophrenia (I THINK) smoked cigarettes before their condition materialised. It appears that people with a predisposition seek out dopamine-related drugs to take the edge off. There's no doubt that Marijuana can be life changing if you have enough, and anything that can change your life can do it for the better or for worse. However, I'm still not convinced that weed can ever be blamed for schizophrenia, I believe it just is a coping mechanism for people who already have it brewing inside of them. Also, I should mention that Nicotine has effects on dopamine, it's not ENTIRELY clear what it does but it's a very interesting substance. Small puffs stimulate, large puffs relax, very cool drug, shame that it's packaged in carcinogenic tobacco.[/QUOTE] Theres plenty of alternatives though for just getting nicotine too bad not many people utilize them

This is a serious question. Is this worth it? As long as I have this illness I'm either going to be stressed out of my fucking balls, or sedated like a zombie. There's no middle ground. I hate both states of mentality. On Saturday a voice said "Why don't you kill yourself?" At first I dismissed it, but thinking about it like this, why not? Sure I have my whole life ahead of me being 18, but I'm at college now, university will just be more time for me to lay in my room and be spaced out. I know I won't go out and socialise, I say I will, I know it's best...but who am I kidding? I won't. It just seems like the only thing that will calm me down is to end it forcefully. The medication does nothing, and when it does...it wears off after a few hours. So they'll have to up my dosage, and that'll make me feel even more like a groggy zombie. Thus intensifying my problem...

If you tell yourself you cant do something, you wont. You can do almost anything if you put your mind to it man. My lifes changed alot in just the last couple days. Change is a scary thing mane, but you gotta realise it brings alot of good surpises, not just bad. You gotta get out there and do shit, otherwise you WILL kill yourself. The times you feel most like suicide are when youre sitting around alone in your room just thinking about all the bad shit, so get out and get your mind off that kind of thing, make some new friends, concentrate on a new beginning. Unless you live in australia or a place of similar latitude, its spring, and that means its the season of change. Just go out and do something good for yourself.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;21030195]This is a serious question. Is this worth it? As long as I have this illness I'm either going to be stressed out of my fucking balls, or sedated like a zombie. There's no middle ground. I hate both states of mentality. On Saturday a voice said "Why don't you kill yourself?" At first I dismissed it, but thinking about it like this, why not? Sure I have my whole life ahead of me being 18, but I'm at college now, university will just be more time for me to lay in my room and be spaced out. I know I won't go out and socialise, I say I will, I know it's best...but who am I kidding? I won't. It just seems like the only thing that will calm me down is to end it forcefully. The medication does nothing, and when it does...it wears off after a few hours. So they'll have to up my dosage, and that'll make me feel even more like a groggy zombie. Thus intensifying my problem...[/QUOTE] If your problems got brought up by weed, then try to explore some of cannabioid antagonist, which has inverse effects of weed, is smart drug, does cancel munchies, improves memory and so on. I think some of those are prescribed for something, obesity I think, and they are testing some of those chemicals for schizophrenia.

[QUOTE=kobilica;21032590]If your problems got brought up by weed, then try to explore some of cannabioid antagonist, which has inverse effects of weed, is smart drug, does cancel munchies, improves memory and so on. I think some of those are prescribed for something, obesity I think, and they are testing some of those chemicals for schizophrenia.[/QUOTE] Thats just silly to be honest... But really man you'll be fine maybe this medication isn't for you, the main reason why people have schizophrenia is because of high levels of dopamine maybe the medication you are on is not suppressing the dopamine sufficiently to how you would expect. Talk to your psychiatrist about it and just lay off the weed and any other drugs for a while get exercising and eat good food just keep yourself in a good shape and make yourself feel in control of your problem and you will survive.

This post really doesn't make sense :/ (mine of course)

I don't think there are many Cannabinoid antagonists. I have heard they have potential as antipsychotics though.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;21030195]This is a serious question. Is this worth it? As long as I have this illness I'm either going to be stressed out of my fucking balls, or sedated like a zombie. There's no middle ground. I hate both states of mentality. On Saturday a voice said "Why don't you kill yourself?" At first I dismissed it, but thinking about it like this, why not? Sure I have my whole life ahead of me being 18, but I'm at college now, university will just be more time for me to lay in my room and be spaced out. I know I won't go out and socialise, I say I will, I know it's best...but who am I kidding? I won't. It just seems like the only thing that will calm me down is to end it forcefully. The medication does nothing, and when it does...it wears off after a few hours. So they'll have to up my dosage, and that'll make me feel even more like a groggy zombie. Thus intensifying my problem...[/QUOTE] seriously don't kill yourself, it would be a grave error. Along with the misery will come times of happiness, this I promise you. I know a few people with schizophrenia that are perfectly functional in society. The transitory period of going from unmedicated to medicated will no doubt be a long and painstaking process, but don't kill yourself

Dosage increased yet again lastnight after I went to hospital.