My friend can't have orgasms. Maybe I'll have a chance to help her. - General

Just fuck the bitch already, If your not going to any time soon this thread has lost all meaning

I talked to a girl once, I thought about it for WEEKS!

[QUOTE=AnonymousDude;21802191]Did I do the right thing?[/QUOTE] No, you shouldn't of said you would go. She has you by the balls and she knows it. Your so eager for this to work that your willing to go out with her when "she" wants to and not when you both agreed to it. After bailing on you how many times already your still letting her control you. Should of said no to send her a message that your not her bitch. Notice how this time when [b]she[/b] invites you, your not going to be alone with her either, which means it's nothing more than friends going somewhere together. Bah why am I even bothering with this still. All she ever wanted from you was an orgasm, now you've gone and blown this up into something beyond your control and despite the fact that if she [b]actually gave a fuck[/b] about her request you'd of finished this bullshit weeks ago you are still playing her games. What I want to know is when you are going to realize that it [b]does not[/b] require this much bullshit to be friends with benefits, more so since you were already friends before. Correct? Basically, if she genuinely wanted you to fuck her or anything else purely so she could get off, she would of had you do it weeks ago. It sounds to me like you want this to become something more than friends with benefits, that or you are desperate to get laid now that you see an opening.

[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg26/Slubbz/facepunch.png[/IMG]

Well, guys. The thing about this is that she's probably the closest thing I ever had to like a girl. Axznma, to be as sincere as I can, I want to see how far I can go. I want to learn from a relationship where I can try much more stuff than I usually could from someone that isn't a friend of mine for some time. This will be my last chance to find out what the fuck is on her mind, and I promise you: this will be my main objective. Our last conversation was about [I]not making things any harder[/I], [I]making it worth it [/I], [I]you won't regret [/I]and such. I'll try to do as much as I can. As you can imagine, it's a big event, with shows (shitty college country shows, romantic shitty music... anyway) and all. I'm pretty sure there will be a place where we can have some privacy. I'll try some moves. Let's see what happens. If you think I'm right and that I should give her this last chance, rate me Tool. If you think I shouldn't even give her this, rate me Bad Reading. Other ratings work as usual.

Nah, hes gonna think about it afterwards ;)

[QUOTE=AnonymousDude;21743295]Well, first thing is that she said (more than once) that she wanted me to be more active, it's almost "KISS ME MORE GODDAMMIT". Then, it's 3 weeks since I last saw her. So many things that don't let us go out, that could be excuses. And I feel like shit. I'm rarely interested in a girl, I'm not this kind of guy that just rushes into any girl that shows any signs of a possible relationship / casual thing opportunity. I dunno.[/QUOTE] I don't think she likes you.

[QUOTE=NEUFDANIELS;21804201][IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg26/Slubbz/facepunch.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Brilliant [editline]11:23AM[/editline] Also, go for it, what have you got to lose ('cept your virginity)

You know, I'm just waiting for: "YOU'VE ALL BEEN TROLLED."

[QUOTE=AnonymousDude;21805075]Well, guys. The thing about this is that she's probably the closest thing I ever had to like a girl. Axznma, to be as sincere as I can, I want to see how far I can go. I want to learn from a relationship where I can try much more stuff than I usually could from someone that isn't a friend of mine for some time. This will be my last chance to find out what the fuck is on her mind, and I promise you: this will be my main objective. Our last conversation was about [I]not making things any harder[/I], [I]making it worth it [/I], [I]you won't regret [/I]and such. I'll try to do as much as I can. As you can imagine, it's a big event, with shows (shitty college country shows, romantic shitty music... anyway) and all. I'm pretty sure there will be a place where we can have some privacy. I'll try some moves. Let's see what happens. If you think I'm right and that I should give her this last chance, rate me Tool. If you think I shouldn't even give her this, rate me Bad Reading. Other ratings work as usual.[/QUOTE] I'm going to assume from this you mean that you want to try for this friends with benefits thing to try as many sexual things as you can with her, going off of this [quote]I want to see how far I can go. I want to learn from a relationship where I can try much more stuff than I usually could from someone that isn't a friend of mine for some time.[/quote] anyways. Had you said that from the start this would of been alot less dramatic. From previous posts I was under the idea that you were thinking of a possible [b]real[/b] relationship with her (thanks to you beating around the bush and sending off the image of someone that really truly cares for her, you spent so much time worrying about this crap and a few choice comments of yours threw me a totally different image), which I was trying to tell you she is sending off a strong as hell "no" vibe so far. But if getting laid was all this was ever really about to you then it's quite a simple matter actually. Glad all of that's cleared up, now we just wait and see what happens.

Axzn, [quote]The thing about this is that she's probably the closest thing I ever had to like a girl.[/quote] I do care about her, I wish I could have a relationship with her, and what I mean with "Let's see how far it goes" is about our relationship. I want to learn not sexually-related stuff (not my primary focus, I see it as a bonus) but how to act properly with women. I'm not sure of her intentions, and I want to find out what they are. I'm not sure she likes me at all anymore. As I said, that is most certainly the last chance I'm giving her. You see, I'm not interested in her just to fuck her. I may sound like a stupid asshole (and I probably am) but I really liked this girl, she is (or was) one of my best friends. Now I don't know what to think. That fair/concert? I didn't even buy my ticket yet, so I won't lose the money in case she says she can't go. I prefer to wait and pay double price on the place. Oh well, I'm pretty neurotic now, I can't believe a word of what she says. Facepunch is partially guilty for that. [editline]a[/editline] And no I'm not trolling you guys :colbert:

Brb getting the hall of fame music again

[QUOTE=AnonymousDude;21802191] So I decided to take PlamZ' advice and call her once again[/QUOTE] :3:

[QUOTE=AnonymousDude;21816651]Axzn, I do care about her, I wish I could have a relationship with her, and what I mean with "Let's see how far it goes" is about our relationship. I want to learn not sexually-related stuff (not my primary focus, I see it as a bonus) but how to act properly with women. I'm not sure of her intentions, and I want to find out what they are. I'm not sure she likes me at all anymore. As I said, that is most certainly the last chance I'm giving her. You see, I'm not interested in her just to fuck her. I may sound like a stupid asshole (and I probably am) but I really liked this girl, she is (or was) one of my best friends. Now I don't know what to think. That fair/concert? I didn't even buy my ticket yet, so I won't lose the money in case she says she can't go. I prefer to wait and pay double price on the place. Oh well, I'm pretty neurotic now, I can't believe a word of what she says. Facepunch is partially guilty for that.[/QUOTE] Back to square one then. You should know though that learning how to act properly with women (which by the way goes on a person to person base) using her as your test subject is going to give you negative gains here, for example: Standing someone up 3 times in a row is not going to fly with most females period. It's not the act, but what it does to [b]you[/b] on the subconscious level, which is the absolute worse place to have any kind of bad thoughts, reasoning won't reach this deep. You already have an abnormal stance towards her ("I can't believe a word of what she says") that in the long run only hurts the relationship. You're going to have to work like a bitch to not poison it with your feelings. Sure you may go out with her and have a great time, things look up and you trust her again and all that. That's not the problem, the problem is how you are feeling subconsciously that slightly alters how you feel about things that happen between the two of you, never mind the fact that anytime something odd happens you will start thinking of this soap opera again which will give you unneeded ideas. Most importantly, this has been my point from the start: [quote]You see, I'm not interested in her just to fuck her.[/quote] because all she ever said she wanted from you was an orgasm, and thus far she has thrown you away at every chance, until you throw [b]her[/b] away, then she comes back, which to me personally isn't a sign of a healthy relationship. Playing hard to get only goes so far before you enter the realm of being a bitch. But at any rate I said my piece on this, I'd probably start repeating myself soon and that's no good. You will do what you will. [editline]06:30PM[/editline] And this fucking forum refuses to ever update my rating, of which I rated you artistic last night for good luck and it still hasn't put it there. What an ass.

[QUOTE=Axznma;21825130][post] because all she ever said she wanted from you was an orgasm[/QUOTE] Not really. She never said "I want you to give me an orgasm", nor anything like that. Actually, [i]I[/i] said that I would like to help as much as I could. About not trusting her: sometimes in life, as we grow up, we begin to realize that some times we run into people that aren't as well-intentioned as us. Sometimes, people tell lies. If your girlfriend (assuming you have one, or if you don't, it does't really matter. Oh boy. Let's just follow the example) suddenly began to say that she can't go out with you every time you ask her for multiple reasons, wouldn't you think that something's wrong? That's the case. I'll find out next Saturday - if nothing comes up ("Hurr my cat died" ""You never told me you had a cat" "Uh I bought one five minutes ago"). But man, I gotta say it: your posts are really helpful - I think I could even say enlightening - for I begin to think about those things with a different point of view. Thank you. :3: Anyway, she called me today. :siren: [I]Siren Time![/I] I was making some pizzas, and the phone rang. My mother picked it up, and for my surprise it was for me. Her voice comes up: "Hi!". I couldn't possibly imagine a reason for her to call me. Only thing I could imagine was "Dammit, there goes my next weekend.". "You can't imagine what happened," (Oh, god, poor cat) "I went out with some friends and it was a mess" (How's the cat doing?) "I think I talked about you too much." (God take that poor anima- WHAT) "What? What do you mean?" "Well, I was talking with them, then I don't know why or how, but I suddenly realised I was talking about you, and there wasn't even a good context! Like, from nowhere" "Oh jesus. Here it comes" "One of my friends even said 'You like him, don't you'" That's when I began to imagine unneeded things. Why would her like me? "Oh wow." "Also, I ran into [common friend name here. this friend also had a short relationship with her - they exchanged some kisses and shit, I don't know the word for this in english, i no spek ensgish], and well, he tried to give me a kiss [this kind of kiss is this one where you just touch the other person's lips, nothing else. again, I'm dumb and don't know the name]. You should talk to him on MSN and tell him to fuck off." "Me? Why me!?" "It's your job!" That was the first part of our conversation. Added to that, and possibly relevant, I told her that I didn't buy my ticket. "Why? You know it'll cost a bit more to buy on Saturday, right?" "Yep." "Why didn't you, then?" "Well, I can never know. If something happens and you can't go I can't just make it disappear, eh? Why don't you buy it for me then, and I'll pay you back on the day" Well, after that, I decided to begin to open up with her. Not the right thing to do, I know, but I felt like I should do it. I told her: "[I]Jill[/I], I've been thinking a lot on those last weeks. For pretty much my entire life, letting people into my life wasn't easy. Now, I know you for a long time. We always liked each other - or at least it looks like that on the outside - and we began to go out together. Now, I never really felt like it before, but I want to change. I behave incorrectly with many people, and you are one of them, on a way. I want to know something: are you worth the trouble and the work I'll have to go through? Girl, should I begin to treat you not as a friend just with a few occasional benfits ([I]is kissing, without FUCKING TOUCHING EACH OTHER'S TONGUE A BENEFIT? JEEZ[/I]) like I should, and stop worrying about stupid things? [I]Do you really want me to go with you Saturday, or are you going to make another excuse once again[/I]?" "Seriously? Yes, you should, I do want you to go with me." And that, gentlemen, is what I'm worried about. I don't know if I should give this kind of power to someone. Ever. I began to feel the desire to actually try to act. To get her between my arms, feel the heat of our bodies blending and give her a kiss she won't forget for a good time. Anyway. Uh. Yeah. Opinions would be good as usual. I don't know if I forgot anything here, but hey, that's a pretty big post ?:smile:

Having sex would be the best move

[QUOTE=AnonymousDude;21827001]Not really. She never said "I want you to give me an orgasm", nor anything like that. Actually, [i]I[/i] said that I would like to help as much as I could. About not trusting her: sometimes in life, as we grow up, we begin to realize that some times we run into people that aren't as well-intentioned as us. Sometimes, people tell lies. If your girlfriend (assuming you have one, or if you don't, it does't really matter. Oh boy. Let's just follow the example) suddenly began to say that she can't go out with you every time you ask her for multiple reasons, wouldn't you think that something's wrong? That's the case. I'll find out next Saturday - if nothing comes up ("Hurr my cat died" ""You never told me you had a cat" "Uh I bought one five minutes ago"). But man, I gotta say it: your posts are really helpful - I think I could even say enlightening - for I begin to think about those things with a different point of view. Thank you. :3: Anyway, she called me today. :siren: [I]Siren Time![/I] I was making some pizzas, and the phone rang. My mother picked it up, and for my surprise it was for me. Her voice comes up: "Hi!". I couldn't possibly imagine a reason for her to call me. Only thing I could imagine was "Dammit, there goes my next weekend.". "You can't imagine what happened," (Oh, god, poor cat) "I went out with some friends and it was a mess" (How's the cat doing?) "I think I talked about you too much." (God take that poor anima- WHAT) "What? What do you mean?" "Well, I was talking with them, then I don't know why or how, but I suddenly realised I was talking about you, and there wasn't even a good context! Like, from nowhere" "Oh jesus. Here it comes" "One of my friends even said 'You like him, don't you'" That's when I began to imagine unneeded things. Why would her like me? "Oh wow." "Also, I ran into [common friend name here. this friend also had a short relationship with her - they exchanged some kisses and shit, I don't know the word for this in english, i no spek ensgish], and well, he tried to give me a kiss [this kind of kiss is this one where you just touch the other person's lips, nothing else. again, I'm dumb and don't know the name]. You should talk to him on MSN and tell him to fuck off." "Me? Why me!?" "It's your job!" That was the first part of our conversation. Added to that, and possibly relevant, I told her that I didn't buy my ticket. "Why? You know it'll cost a bit more to buy on Saturday, right?" "Yep." "Why didn't you, then?" "Well, I can never know. If something happens and you can't go I can't just make it disappear, eh? Why don't you buy it for me then, and I'll pay you back on the day" Well, after that, I decided to begin to open up with her. Not the right thing to do, I know, but I felt like I should do it. I told her: "[I]Jill[/I], I've been thinking a lot on those last weeks. For pretty much my entire life, letting people into my life wasn't easy. Now, I know you for a long time. We always liked each other - or at least it looks like that on the outside - and we began to go out together. Now, I never really felt like it before, but I want to change. I behave incorrectly with many people, and you are one of them, on a way. I want to know something: are you worth the trouble and the work I'll have to go through? Girl, should I begin to treat you not as a friend just with a few occasional benfits ([I]is kissing, without FUCKING TOUCHING EACH OTHER'S TONGUE A BENEFIT? JEEZ[/I]) like I should, and stop worrying about stupid things? [I]Do you really want me to go with you Saturday, or are you going to make another excuse once again[/I]?" "Seriously? Yes, you should, I do want you to go with me." And that, gentlemen, is what I'm worried about. I don't know if I should give this kind of power to someone. Ever. I began to feel the desire to actually try to act. To get her between my arms, feel the heat of our bodies blending and give her a kiss she won't forget for a good time. Anyway. Uh. Yeah. Opinions would be good as usual. I don't know if I forgot anything here, but hey, that's a pretty big post ?:smile:[/QUOTE] Mate, i dunno what the fuck you just said. Either way, go for it!

Quite the riveting tale. I've been reading this straight through for an hour and a half. You should write a book. [img]http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2426/facedq.jpg[/img]

So, have you slept with her yet?

[QUOTE=AnonymousDude;20894436]:siren: [B]Updates on the rest of the thread, read it! [/B]:buddy: :siren: Hello. There is this girl I'm friends with for quite some time now. This year, while we were off school (we finished school, we're on college now) we chatted a lot through the Internet, and two weeks ago we went downtown and got together. It was kinda awkward. We went to the movies (The Hurt Locker isn't exactly the most romantic movie out there), but we didn't kiss. I mean, I tried, but she was being [I]tough[/I], and I wasn't completely used to the idea of kissing my friend. When we left the movies, we went to this place, that I don't know how to name in English: [IMG]http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3038/pqhalfeld8we.jpg[/IMG] (Square? Park? Fuck it.) It was 10PM by then, so there were lots of couples and shit. I managed to get a [I]little[/I] (can't stress that enough) kiss, and then we went across the street to wait for her dad. While we were waiting I tried to get a fairly decent kiss, and it sucked a [I]little bit [/I]less than the other one. Then I said "What's wrong?" and she said "It's a friend kiss". When she said that, I thought: "Shit. I was too slow, got her bored, and now our friendship is ruined. Way to go." Then her dad arrived. I was planning on catching a bus, but she insisted me to go with them, he would drop me near my house. The thing is, without me saying ANY WORD on where I live, she stops IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. She came here a few times, so she probably taught him how to come here earlier. I said to her dad: "Wow, you came closer to my house than I thought you will" and he replied: "Yeah, she dragged me here earlier.". I was like :byodood: So, two weeks passed by. The only relevant thing that happened was that she went online and talked to me. It was strange, since I thought she hated me for being so slow. Nothing [I]really [/I]relevant was said. Last Saturday, March 20th, we went out again. I called her Friday (I was REALLY, REALLY bored, and wanted to go out with a friend. Making friend on college is hard for someone shy like me. Also I hate the word 'shy', it's so gay), after like 2 hours of thinking if I should or not. I thought "Well, if she says no, we're already finished anyway". Then I called. She was surprisingly nice. "Hey, wanna do something tomorrow?" "Yeah sure. No, wait, I'm being too easy. I'll have to think. Aw dammit, too late, yeah, what you want to do?" It was great. After looking for somewhere nice to sit and chat (that took like 2 hours, we walked almost everywhere downtown) I remembered this old school, with big stairs, not many people pass there, and it's kinda dark, so it's perfect. We go there, and it's great. We chat, we are hugging each other, doing those little good things that two people in love do. Thing is, I don't think we are in love. It was great, I never felt so good before. Maybe because I never really wanted or cared about a girl, but it's different with her, we're friends. We're friends with benefits, I guess. But I'll get there later. Saturday was GREAT. So, the cool thing about us is that we can talk about EVERYTHING with each other. She said a lot about her life with me. And boy, she done some crazy stuff. The most relevant thing is that she can't have orgasms. That's right, she never had one. She thought the people she made sex with aren't effective enough, so she had sex with a girl. She said it was [I]weird[/I]. Anyway. I really like her, so I said (almost kidding) that I could try to help her. I mean, make love with her but focusing on [I]her[/I] needs, not mine. I would really like to do that, even if I don't have any pleasure, I would feel great for making her satisfied. I friendly yold her that I would do oral on her for as long as it was necessary and stuff, and she accepted the idea without bitching (that's what's great about we being friends :buddy:). She said that if she was alone at home someday, she would call me, and use that black lingerie I'm crazy about, if I promise to try to please her. Of course I said yes, "It's a deal". That's where things get complicated. You remember that first occasion, where we went to this place with trees? Well, she asked if I ever made sex with anyone. Thing is, on the pressure of the situation, I said yes. Yeah, I lied. I immediately thought "CRAP", but well, I couldn't say otherwise. I had to lie a bit more to get context. It sucks. Also, she's my third girl. But since I lied, I can't just say "oh hey i'm virgin also you're my 3rd girl, ok? u still want to have sex with me?". Finally, after all this bullshit, here's what I want to ask you. I know that there are lots of normal people here on FP, that won't just come in here and try to be funny. If you want to do a funny comment feel free to do so. What do you think I should do? This is getting really complicated. Saturday was so great, I never felt so good in my life. I don't want to have more feelings for her, because I don't want to get hurt (and this WILL happen, even if we lived together for the rest of our lives, and I know that's not gonna happen). If she does call me to go to her house, should I go? And how do I contain my feelings so I don't start liking her more than I do? Thanks, guys. I hope you can help me. Sorry for wasting your time with such an uninteresting story. :ohdear: [B]tl;dr[/B] virgin lies and kisses a girl and doesnt know what to do next [editline]a[/editline] Artist's Approach: [IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg26/Slubbz/facepunch.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I hate threads like these, like what the fuck, how are you supposed to help a chick orgasm if you have never had sex before?

[QUOTE=AnonymousDude;21827001]Not really. She never said "I want you to give me an orgasm", nor anything like that. Actually, [i]I[/i] said that I would like to help as much as I could. [b]"I friendly yold her that I would do oral on her for as long as it was necessary and stuff, and she accepted the idea without bitching (that's what's great about we being friends ). She said that if she was alone at home someday, she would call me, and use that black lingerie I'm crazy about, if I promise to try to please her. Of course I said yes, "It's a deal"."[/b] [b]Nowhere in there did she so much as hint at anything further than you giving her an orgasm. I can't judge on things you haven't told me about, so from this, all she wanted was an orgasm. I admit I phrased it wrong making it seem like I meant she actually said it aloud, so that fault is mine.[/b] -------------------------------------------------- About not trusting her: sometimes in life, as we grow up, we begin to realize that some times we run into people that aren't as well-intentioned as us. Sometimes, people tell lies. If your girlfriend (assuming you have one, or if you don't, it does't really matter. Oh boy. Let's just follow the example) suddenly began to say that she can't go out with you every time you ask her for multiple reasons, wouldn't you think that something's wrong? That's the case. I'll find out next Saturday - if nothing comes up ("Hurr my cat died" ""You never told me you had a cat" "Uh I bought one five minutes ago"). [b]I gather the impression that you are lecturing me about the untrustworthyness of people, which I find odd since from almost the very start I've been telling that is exactly how you should feel and not let blind love cloud what's (possibly) actually going on. Which is her playing you. Anyways, your example doesn't work when compared to yourself (for the record I dumped by previous GF [b]because[/b] she did exactly what was in your example and I caught her multiple times on her bullshit) because you are not together, you've been trying to get together and she's been pushing you away from the start really, thus my reasoning that she's either a moron that doesn't know what she wants or is playing you, or, she is trying to send the message that she isn't interested.[/b] -------------------------------------------------- But man, I gotta say it: your posts are really helpful - I think I could even say enlightening - for I begin to think about those things with a different point of view. Thank you. :3: [b]You're welcome I guess. Just be wary of diving too far into that kind of thinking, you'll look too deep into small things. Knowing what's a real problem and what's just a persons defect is one of the hardest parts.[/b] -------------------------------------------------- Anyway, she called me today. :siren: [I]Siren Time![/I] I was making some pizzas, and the phone rang. My mother picked it up, and for my surprise it was for me. Her voice comes up: "Hi!". I couldn't possibly imagine a reason for her to call me. Only thing I could imagine was "Dammit, there goes my next weekend.". "You can't imagine what happened," (Oh, god, poor cat) "I went out with some friends and it was a mess" (How's the cat doing?) "I think I talked about you too much." (God take that poor anima- WHAT) "What? What do you mean?" "Well, I was talking with them, then I don't know why or how, but I suddenly realised I was talking about you, and there wasn't even a good context! Like, from nowhere" "Oh jesus. Here it comes" "One of my friends even said 'You like him, don't you'" That's when I began to imagine unneeded things. Why would her like me? "Oh wow." "Also, I ran into [common friend name here. this friend also had a short relationship with her - they exchanged some kisses and shit, I don't know the word for this in english, i no spek ensgish], and well, he tried to give me a kiss [this kind of kiss is this one where you just touch the other person's lips, nothing else. again, I'm dumb and don't know the name]. You should talk to him on MSN and tell him to fuck off." "Me? Why me!?" "It's your job!" That was the first part of our conversation. [b]Trouble some that is, it's highly (read: extremely) unnecessary to say that, at all. That's actually a tactic to bait people and tred waters to see if anything is there to latch onto (I've done it myself a few times), although she did it very poorly barely covering it up.[/b] -------------------------------------------------- And that, gentlemen, is what I'm worried about. I don't know if I should give this kind of power to someone. Ever. I began to feel the desire to actually try to act. To get her between my arms, feel the heat of our bodies blending and give her a kiss she won't forget for a good time. Anyway. Uh. Yeah. Opinions would be good as usual. I don't know if I forgot anything here, but hey, that's a pretty big post ?:smile: [b]There's nothing wrong with feeling strongly toward someone. For me, knowing whether or not she's worth the feeling is far more important than actually having them for her. You can love anyone in time, whether they are worth the amount of love you feel for them is another story. Or, think of it this way, when it comes down to the worst case scenario: She's dieing, you have the ability to save her, but you will die from it. Do you save her? Yes, of course do. But would she had she been in your place? Stop and think for a minute, ignore that instant "of course she would" and really think about what she would do. That's what I mean of being worthy. Plenty will give off the impression they will. But sending the message is not the same as the meaning behind it. You'd die for them, will they for you?[/b][/QUOTE] Whew, getting a little philosophical there at the end.

Damn, it's getting hot, and i follow every post you make :v:! I'm damn happy for you! Just be yourself and everything will be Ok, you maybe won't fuck her right now, but you may have a girlfriend, and that beat the shit of a fuck-friend relationships.

[QUOTE=Inacio;21841419]And it's pretty much Axznma pessimism against PlamZ' optimism :buddy:[/QUOTE] Seeing it from multiple angles isn't pessimism, I don't need to explain how everything "could" work because he is already trying to convince himself it will on his own. That said I really do hope he succeeds, I'm just not willing to sugar coat things for his sake. PlamZ is giving him hope and encouragement, I'm giving him reality. Both are equally important.

[B]Posting in epic thread.[/B]

Actually, i think hope is more important when there IS hope. But when it's totally hopeless, it's better to tel people the sad reality.

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;21829461]I hate threads like these, like what the fuck, how are you supposed to help a chick orgasm if you have never had sex before?[/QUOTE] Quoting this.

Guys. Fuck. Tonight we talked a fair amount of time on MSN, and we still are. BUT You know that friend I talked about before? Well, she said she was talking with him on MSN too and he said, amongst other things, that "She could do better", "I'm a loser" and "We don't match". Well, I had a little chatter with him too, pretty useful. He said, again, amongst other things, that I like "long, serious relationships, and I don't think that'll happen". He also posed himself as the friend who only wants my good. Well, that isn't really all that interesting, compared to that. We were talking about him and what the fuck he's doing, why he's trying to get her again, especially if he knows that I'm seeing her and that came up. This is the chatlog, only translated. [quote][i]She said:[/I] hm. tsc you know, i already made up my mind. [I]I said:[/I] ahh. tell me. [hername]? what did you made up your mind about? [I]She said:[/I] i like you, that's it, there, i said it. [one of her friend's name, also she doesnt like me] always tried to convince me otherwise, but it's true. there, i said it. now pretend you never heard this, ok? i never told you that. [I]I said:[/I] Yes ma'am. [/quote] What. What does that mean. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. [I]Like. [/I]As much as I want to believe that she likes me too, I don't know if I should. If she's just saying that without meaning it, I would just get hurt. Crap. It sucks to like girls. Fear, I feel like an idiot by thinking about it, my heart and my brain are in excessive work, trying to figure out what to do... I think I don't need House here to tell me what those symptoms mean. Hope. Guys, enlight me, please. :eng99:

It is a good and a bad sign. Good : She likes you, normally, if you don't act like a douchebag and a bitch, it will remain like that. Bad : She told you not to tell the others about it, which mean that she's not sure about it. Make her your girlfriend :v:! Faster!

[QUOTE=PlamZ;21847078]Bad : She told you not to tell the others about it, which mean that she's not sure about it.[/QUOTE] It wasn't like that, it was more like "Pretend I never told you that 'cause I shouldn't tell you that like that" Like, you just don't turn to someone from nowhere and say "You know, I like you :V". You know what I mean? I think I didn't explain that right. Or I'm already being stupid because of hope.

You're on your way, I think. Just keep doing what you're doing, because it's working apparently.