By the way, the one con of McCain outweighs all of his own Pros, and all of Obamas Cons:
[highlight][b]SARAH PALIN[/b][/highlight]
Dun dun dun...
[QUOTE=The DooD]By the way, the one con of McCain outweighs all of his own Pros, and all of Obamas Cons:
[highlight][b]SARAH PALIN[/b][/highlight]
Dun dun dun...[/QUOTE]
One con? Really?
[QUOTE=The DooD]By the way, the one con of McCain outweighs all of his own Pros, and all of Obamas Cons:
[highlight][b]SARAH PALIN[/b][/highlight]
Dun dun dun...[/QUOTE]
Wow, let's jump onto the "Palin makes McCain a bad choice for president, lol!" bandwagon even more.
[QUOTE=Seth2492]Wow, let's jump onto the "Palin makes McCain a bad choice for president, lol!" bandwagon even more.[/QUOTE]
what a terrific retort bravo
[url]http://www.electoral-vote.com/[/url]
That is all.
[QUOTE=Conscript]what a terrific retort bravo[/QUOTE]
Thanks, babe. ;)
[QUOTE=L0LIMB0RED][url]http://www.electoral-vote.com/[/url]
That is all.[/QUOTE]
I like this one better, you can alter the map to your choosing! :4chan:
[url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/[/url]
[QUOTE=Roboticist]Theoretically, your agreement to pay your taxes is saying you're willing to pay that price for services given to you by the state and federal government during that year. Doesn't shatter anything, it just shows some people are over-eager to slap the term where it doesn't really apply.[/QUOTE]
No no no, These could easily be privatized by people, and there not, the fact that they are not means it's socialism. (true capitalism would lead to Schools/everything else becoming privatized and only bring profit to those who run it, and that's not the case.)
If such things became privatized then the people who aren't well off financially wouldn't be able to pay for the use of such things, hence why it's socialism.
Truthfully, I didn't know anyone but McCain and Obama were running :v:
Anyways, time to look through the bull shit, two bad things will be stated, three good things will be stated
McCain & Palin want to
*Keep taxes low
*Lead a government campaign to reduce dependency on foreign oil
*Make health care more available
I only found bad things on McCain about business hurting citizens :v:
Obama & Biden wants to
*Raise taxes
*Give non-tax payers checks out of those taxes
I don't know anything good about Obama because I don't watch the campaign and Obama's website is bullshit and doesn't show anything, and Obama votes no on prop 8
There goes my attempt to look through the bullshit...
[QUOTE=WannaBe Me]Truthfully, I didn't know anyone but McCain and Obama were running :v:
Anyways, time to look through the bull shit, two bad things will be stated, three good things will be stated
McCain & Palin want to
*Keep taxes low FOR EVERYONE
*Lead a government campaign to reduce dependency on foreign oil(At the cost of envioment)
*Make health care more available (with giving a 5K check to go buy it that can be used to buy shit other than health care.
Obama & Biden wants to
*Raise taxes FOR THE RICH AND LOWER(for the bottom 60% it's lower then mccains) FOR THE GENERAL POPULATION
*Give non-tax payers checks out of those taxes
*Make basic health care free for everyone.
I don't know anything good about Obama because I don't watch the campaign and Obama's website is bullshit and doesn't show anything[/QUOTE]
Please, fucking look up more shit before posting side by side comparisons.
also fixed.
I know, my attempt was canceled by bullshit :v:
Winning the presidential election won't be good enough, we need those 60 senate seats! :argh:
[QUOTE=WannaBe Me]Truthfully, I didn't know anyone but McCain and Obama were running :v:
Anyways, time to look through the bull shit, two bad things will be stated, three good things will be stated
McCain & Palin want to
*Keep taxes low
*Lead a government campaign to reduce dependency on foreign oil
*Make health care more available
I only found bad things on McCain about business hurting citizens :v:
Obama & Biden wants to
*Raise taxes
*Give non-tax payers checks out of those taxes
I don't know anything good about Obama because I don't watch the campaign and Obama's website is bullshit and doesn't show anything, and Obama votes no on prop 8
There goes my attempt to look through the bullshit...[/QUOTE]
Obama is giving bigger tax cuts than McCain to 95% of Americans. He's only raising taxes slightly on the very wealthy. Get your shit straight. He's also pushing for more regulation in the economy so greedy fucks can't do what they did to cause this financial crisis. McCain just wants to deregulate some more. Also, lowering taxes for everyone isn't exactly the best course of action when we have record debts, a record defecit, and are spending $500b a year on our defense budget in a war that McCain wants to increase funding to.
Also, McCain's healthcare plan stops big businesses from having to supply healthcare to employees and gives you a $5,000 tax credit to buy a $12,000 plan, which means shittier healthcare, less people covered, and more money for the healthcare industry. Obama's going to decrease healthcare costs by $2500 per year per family, and force healthcare companies to cover pre-existing conditions and lower drug and treatment prices. He's also going to give a tax credit to small businesses for hiring American employees and for providing healthcare for them.
[QUOTE=PenisColada]Obama is giving bigger tax cuts than McCain to 95% of Americans. He's only raising taxes slightly on the very wealthy. Get your shit straight. He's also pushing for more regulation in the economy so greedy fucks can't do what they did to cause this financial crisis. McCain just wants to deregulate some more. Also, lowering taxes for everyone isn't exactly the best course of action when we have record debts, a record defecit, and are spending $500b a year on our defense budget in a war that McCain wants to increase funding to.[/QUOTE]
You're forgetting about how well the trickle-down economic model has been working the last 8 years. ;)
[QUOTE=dryer-lint]You're forgetting about how well the trickle-down economic model has been working the last 8 years. ;)[/QUOTE]
What people don't get is that the middle class spends 90% of their income on material possessions that they need. The very rich spend about 1% on material possessions and the rest is invested and turned into even more millions of dollars. It never 'trickles down' to anyone except for big corporations.
[QUOTE=PenisColada]
Also, McCain's healthcare plan stops big businesses from having to supply healthcare to employees and gives you a $5,000 tax credit to buy a $12,000 plan, which means shittier healthcare, less people covered, and more money for the healthcare industry. Obama's going to decrease healthcare costs by $2500 per year per family, and force healthcare companies to cover pre-existing conditions and lower drug and treatment prices. He's also going to give a tax credit to small businesses for hiring American employees and for providing healthcare for them.[/QUOTE]
Obama's plan is going to fuck over small buisnesses. My neighbor runs his own buisness and if Obama gets in, he'll be forced to provide health care for his employees, which means he'll have to shut down his buisness. Then they'll have no job [B]AND[/B] no healthcare
I think nader has a good chance this year
[QUOTE=Noble]I think nader has a good chance this year[/QUOTE]
Nader? Yeah, when the pearly gates of heaven crash down into pigs, causing them to fly into hell, damaging the AC unit, causing it to freeze.
[QUOTE=Beafman]His farther was. Barrack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.[/QUOTE]
So he says.
But he won't show his birth certificate or some shit.
[media]http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTs1YyhFRg[/media]
[QUOTE=AdrianPsy]So he says.
But he won't show his birth certificate or some shit.
[media]http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTs1YyhFRg[/media][/QUOTE]
Neither will McCain. he was born in Panama.
[QUOTE=Beafman]Neither will McCain. he was born in Panama.[/QUOTE]
Panama Canal was under U.S. control at the time.
[QUOTE=Beafman]His farther was. Barrack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.[/QUOTE]
What Adrian is getting at is this theory that Obama really isn't an American citizen.
[b]Edit:[/b]
[QUOTE=Seth2492]Wow, let's jump onto the "Palin makes McCain a bad choice for president, lol!" bandwagon even more.[/QUOTE]
While it may seem like a bandwagon. At least there is reason behind it.
[QUOTE=WannaBe Me]I don't know anything good about Obama because I don't watch the campaign and Obama's website is bullshit and doesn't show anything, and [B]Obama votes no on prop 8
[/B]
[B]There goes my attempt to look through the bullshit...[/B][/QUOTE]
Fuck the Prop 8. You can't honestly tell me that thing is right.
I suggest you read more about both major candidates. The good and the bad, if you're not willing to look, then you're going to have a distorted story.
When does this end?
I vote for Obama not because he is black but his views on the world.
Tomorrow night - wednesday morning :D
[QUOTE=Beafman]Neither will McCain. he was born in Panama.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but Panama was a U.S. territory and his father was stationed there in the military,so it makes him a U.S. citizen
[QUOTE=thisispain]Nader? Yeah, when the pearly gates of heaven crash down into pigs, causing them to fly into hell, damaging the AC unit, causing it to freeze.[/QUOTE]
I meant what I said about the good chance this year...good chance to win 1000th of a percent of the vote that is.
[QUOTE=Noble]I think nader has a good chance this year[/QUOTE]
I think this is one of the worst chances he has had in all the times he's run for President.
[QUOTE=AdrianPsy]So he says.
But he won't show his birth certificate or some shit.
[media]http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTs1YyhFRg[/media][/QUOTE]
Are you talking about THIS birth certificate that he released a really long time ago?
[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/BarackObamaCertificationOfLiveBirthHawaii.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=Seth2492]Wow, let's jump onto the "Palin makes McCain a bad choice for president, lol!" bandwagon even more.[/QUOTE]
He already was a bad choice :downs:
[QUOTE=AdrianPsy]So he says.
But he won't show his birth certificate or some shit.
[media]http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTs1YyhFRg[/media][/QUOTE]
Actually, he has made his birth certificate public.
On the contrary, McCain has not revealed his health records. Wonder why that is?
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