• US Election 2008 - Play Hoop for Democracy
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[QUOTE=kman866]mind saying why?[/QUOTE] Because he doesn't want the country to crash and burn.
[QUOTE=kman866]mind saying why?[/QUOTE] Apparently so, as when I asked him that he kinda ran off.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut]It has changed, several times, over the last few months. Well, specifically his view on what rich is has changed, not his tax plan, but that affects people just as well. At first it was what, near 300k / yr? Now its down to just over 120k.[/QUOTE] source, or any information to back this claim up? Sounds somewhat interesting if it's true, but I'd like to see something first.
[QUOTE=TehWeeMote]Because: He will lower my taxes (I'm poor) He will lower education (college) costs through grants and such if I do community service for my country (again I'm poor) He will end the war within a short period of time. (I hate war) Those are my reasons.[/QUOTE] The first two are very good reasons ;), the third, in my opinion, not so much. War is necessary to preserve our style of living, and lowering the military's funding, as Obama would do if he had his way, would be a very bad thing, just looking at the recent aggression by Russia and even more Middle-Eastern shit happening ( Hello, Pakistan, Syria, and Iran ). Also, since you are getting a tax break and the rich a tax hike, jobs will start to disappear, making it even harder on you.
[QUOTE=TehWeeMote]Because: He will lower my taxes (I'm poor) He will lower education (college) costs through grants and such if I do community service for my country (again I'm poor) He will end the war within a short period of time. (I hate war) Those are my reasons.[/QUOTE] Too bad pulling out of Iraq/Afghanistan too early will lead to the newly formed governments to be retaken by radical groups and we will just have to go back there sooner or later. Also, he will raise taxes for the rich, who worked hard to get that money and he treats them like shit, like they magically spawned the money. Yes, he will lower education costs.
Why can't more republicans be like huntskibut... :confused:
Obama better win damnit.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut]The first two are very good reasons ;), the third, in my opinion, not so much. War is necessary to preserve our style of living, and lowering the military's funding, as Obama would do if he had his way, would be a very bad thing, just looking at the recent aggression by Russia and even more Middle-Eastern shit happening ( Hello, Pakistan, Syria, and Iran )[/QUOTE] Not being seen as an aggressor will lower tension.
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo]Because he doesn't want the country to crash and burn.[/QUOTE] why don't you not just fucking jump to conclusions. if obama becomes president, you never know. all this shit he says about change, could just be a change for the worse.
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo]Not being seen as an aggressor will lower tension.[/QUOTE] Not likely, as most of that aggression is ( currently ) not directed as us.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut]Not likely, as most of that aggression is ( currently ) not directed as us.[/QUOTE] Uhhh... exactly? If other countries want to get into conflicts it's none of our business unless they're allies.
This thread is full of ignorance. Why do i read these stupid ass forums? Oh i don't anymore. Newfag. ( INSTABANNED Used the word newfag ) [b][highlight](User was permabanned for this post (Reason: Wanted to be banned.) [event] 132147 [/event])[/highlight][/b]
[QUOTE=Strongbadmw]This thread is full of ignorance. Why do i read these stupid ass forums? Oh i don't anymore. Newfag. ( INSTABANNED Used the word newfag )[/QUOTE] Lol peace.
[QUOTE=redBadger]Guys, do you seriosly want a president who will RAISE our taxes more than England? And Englands taxes are over 19%. Obama wants to take OUR money and give it to some pot-head out in the street who doesn't have a job and has no money. So if you vote for Obama and, say i take your money and give it to a crack head, you won't care? Is that what you are all telling us? Most of America wants a canidate who will TAX us more? Pathetic.[/QUOTE] Caring for other people=Pathetic. Paying a lot of taxes has it's benefits. Stop being so selfish
Poor americans... they think one man can handle all this mess... Here in Russia we understand that first of all it's not goverment, but you, can hadle the problem... NO matter who will win, you must learn to fight, not hoping that someone else would do that for you... No offence, but here in Russia that's the way we live.
[QUOTE=Sheepy!]source, or any information to back this claim up? Sounds somewhat interesting if it's true, but I'd like to see something first.[/QUOTE] Here ya go, sir. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA[/url] From his mouth.
[QUOTE=karimatrix][b]Poor americans... they think one man can handle all this mess...[/b] Here in Russia we understand that first of all it's not goverment, but you, can hadle the problem... NO matter who will win, you must learn to fight, not hoping that someone else would do that for you...[/QUOTE] *Cough* Lenin *cough* Stalin *cough cough*
[QUOTE=kman866]why don't you not just fucking jump to conclusions. if obama becomes president, you never know. all this shit he says about change, could just be a change for the worse.[/QUOTE] It's funny how you jump to a conclusion after accusing me of jumping to conclusions, cute.
[QUOTE=karimatrix]Poor americans... they think one man can handle all this mess... Here in Russia we understand that first of all it's not goverment, but you, can hadle the problem... NO matter who will win, you must learn to fight, not hoping that someone else would do that for you...[/QUOTE] It's not one man. We have a senate and house of representatives, silly. But they're currently controlled by liberals, like Obama, so if he gets in they'll run apeshit and do whatever the fuck they want, as Obama will have the opportunity to throw in 3 new supreme court judges, tipping that branch also for the liberals.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains]If you don't vote you have no right to whine about the next shit president.[/QUOTE] I don't agree. You should be able to complain without voting if both conditions are satisfied: A) Because of some arbitrary restriction, you were prevented voting at the time of the election, and B) You feel that your life is quantifiably worse as a result of the election.
Heh... [quote=Obama]You can wrap a rotting fish in a paper called change, but it's still gonna stink[/quote] Whose slogan is "Change you can believe in"?
[QUOTE=huntskikbut]It's not one man. We have a senate and house of representatives, silly. But they're currently controlled by liberals, like Obama, so if he gets in they'll run apeshit and do whatever the fuck they want, as Obama will have the opportunity to throw in 3 new supreme court judges, tipping that branch also for the liberals.[/QUOTE] You did not get the right meaning, :) I mean that people of USA hoping for way too much from those elections, thinking that most of problems will gone, they need to understand - only half of what they heard from politics could be realised in future, they must learn to count one themselfs, building future by themselfs.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883]Too bad pulling out of Iraq/Afghanistan too early will lead to the [b]newly formed governments to be retaken by radical groups and we will just have to go back there sooner or later.[/b] Also, he will raise taxes for the rich, who worked hard to get that money and he treats them like shit, like they magically spawned the money. Yes, he will lower education costs.[/QUOTE] You made me "LOL". By that, I assume that you mean the newly formed Iraqi government (and Afghanistan government). It was retarded in the first place to go in there. Nothing a dictator does to his country is any of our business. As long as he doesn't touch any of our people or our land then we should leave him and his country alone. Why do people assume that it's our responsibility to stop chaos from happening in other countries? Basically, no, we wouldn't [b]have[/b] to go back in there.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883]*Cough* Lenin *cough* Stalin *cough cough*[/QUOTE] Isn't that the past.
What do you guys think of Obama's "Civilian National Security Force"?
mccain wins election! :foxnews:
[QUOTE=karimatrix]You did not get the right meaning, :) I mean that people of USA hoping for way too much from those elections, thinking that most of problems will gone, they need to understand - only half of what they heard from politics could be realised in future, they must learn to count one themselfs, building future by themselfs.[/QUOTE] god damn commies! :argh:
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo]Uhhh... exactly? If other countries want to get into conflicts it's none of our business unless they're allies.[/QUOTE] It usually quickly becomes our business, either from politics felling they need to be the world police, as the sole superpower ( currently ), or through duties associated with different pacts and treaties ( see NATO and UN, and, of course, allies )
[QUOTE=huntskikbut]Heh... Whose slogan is "Change you can believe in"?[/QUOTE] The rotting fish is meant to symbolize the same old policies McCain is trying to continue the usage of. Or you could read it all funny-like.
[QUOTE=karimatrix]Poor americans... they think one man can handle all this mess... Here in Russia we understand that first of all it's not goverment, but you, can hadle the problem... NO matter who will win, you must learn to fight, not hoping that someone else would do that for you... No offence, but here in Russia that's the way we live.[/QUOTE] The fuck? I don't understand any of this.
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