Just bought me a zoom h4n recorder. Gonna record next band-practice! We're also gonna apply for the local demo-competition, and maybe win some much needed pesos. 1st price is 10 hours worth of professional recording in a studio. Now, to make 3 tunes..
[QUOTE=Aljaud;25008367]In general, in percussion in education, they try to get you to learn a broad range of percussion instruments. Such as, timpani, and keyboard instruments rather than specifically snare drum.
This is not a bad thing, but not everyone likes it. If you want to play a snare drum, and only a snare drum, go tryout for professional performances somewhere.[/QUOTE]
This. I played the crash cymbals in symphony orchestra. I hit them once per song, so my practices were incredibly boring.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;25010214]This. I played the crash cymbals in symphony orchestra. I hit them once per song, so my practices were incredibly boring.[/QUOTE]
The one thing about when I had to play crash cymbals was how the asshole section leader never wrote our parts down, so while we we're left to memorize everything, they read off a sheet of paper. Memories nice and all, but we are not supposed to learn by ear in any band at my school. If he had taken the 2 minutes to write it down, I would of had it down,
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25004253]I'm ok with a single pedal I guess. I can't go extremely fast though.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't give too much concern to going fast until you get to the real bass-heavy metal. most other things can be played or bluffed using a single pedal pretty easy.
I just learned to love the sound of rim shots, when done right and with the drum tuned right, they can sound like gunshots for some reason.
rimshots are the best, i just love when i hit my 1 ply maple on the side and you get all those amazing high wood overtones. you sir are right
I think the rimshot is best when mixed up with soft notes, like mix it with a drag or a tap
Surprisingly enough I don't really mind the overtones on the maple drum part of my kit, whatever the other ones are made of makes me want to strangle a cat however.
Also, can't tell which is getting hurt more by the rimshots, my sticks or the rim.
definatly sticks, rims are made to stand up to it, and they are metal, you can't hit them so hard with your sticks that they'll bend you just can't, unless you have wood hoops, then it would probably cause dings in it. sticks however wear, they break, it's just something that happens over time.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25017734]
Also, can't tell which is getting hurt more by the rimshots, my sticks or the rim.[/QUOTE]
Well my sticks tend to show the battle-scars, but I think my rim suffers the emotional trauma.
I like my oldschool drumsound, what do you guys think about it? (It was an line 6 backtrack placed behind my drumming seat to archieve that the snare and bassdrum are in front and cymbals at the back)
[url]http://soundcloud.com/dekay-snug/2010-rehearsal-room-recording-test-line-6-backtrack[/url]
sounds kickass man, I'm really loving the way the bass sounds
At last my drum set arrived. But I won't tune them alone because I would probably fuck it up. So I'll have to wait till sunday. I've tried watching drum tuning videos and things like that, but I still don't seem to get them sound right.
Too bad there wasn't a 8" tom in there which was part of the order. Also I haven't got my cymbals yet.
[QUOTE=Irma;25018395]At last my drum set arrived. But I won't tune them alone because I would probably fuck it up. So I'll have to wait till sunday. I've tried watching drum tuning videos and things like that, but I still don't seem to get them sound right.
Too bad there wasn't a 8" tom in there which was part of the order. Also I haven't got my cymbals yet.[/QUOTE]
count yourself lucky, I've been playing for 3 years, and I've downgraded to this:
[IMG]http://www.shinemusic.com.au/shop/images/tornado%205pc%20drum.JPG[/IMG]
got to admit though, I have a certain affection for the sound of a crappy old drumkit, much more punk-rock.
[QUOTE=Irma;25018395]At last my drum set arrived. But I won't tune them alone because I would probably fuck it up. So I'll have to wait till sunday. I've tried watching drum tuning videos and things like that, but I still don't seem to get them sound right.
Too bad there wasn't a 8" tom in there which was part of the order. Also I haven't got my cymbals yet.[/QUOTE]
For the snare drum, if you want the sort of marching snare sound, I recommend tuning the resonant head to something about halfway between holy shit tight and finger strength tightened, the batter head tighten that as hard as you can.
Also method that I was taught, finger tighten, than just tune each lug for half a turn until you can find the sound you want.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25018762]For the snare drum, if you want the sort of marching snare sound, I recommend tuning the resonant head to something about halfway between holy shit tight and finger strength tightened, the batter head tighten that as hard as you can.
Also method that I was taught, finger tighten, than just tune each lug for half a turn until you can find the sound you want.[/QUOTE]
thats just choking it, basically it will get you no sound but a single tack, i really like to hear the tone of the drum all overtones all woodyness, i tend to tune the heads to the same tone and then tuning the reso a tad higher.
but to each his own i guess
[QUOTE=BassB;25018856]thats just choking it, basically it will get you no sound but a single tack, i really like to hear the tone of the drum all overtones all woodyness, i tend to tune the heads to the same tone and then tuning the reso a tad higher.
but to each his own i guess[/QUOTE]
That's basically what a marching snare is, all you get is a sharp crack, which is what some people want in their snare. I believe marching snare drum heads are like 50 dollars because they don't use regular heads, they use Kevlar or something.
[URL]http://band-orchestra.musiciansfriend.com/product/Evans-Hybrid-Marching-Snare-Side-Head?sku=490558[/URL]
This is the resonant head used on the bottom of the marching snares at my school.
I believe this is the batter head, can't be sure though.
[URL]http://band-orchestra.musiciansfriend.com/product/Evans-Hybrid-Marching-Snare-Drum-Batter-Head?sku=490557[/URL]
My snare isn't actually as tight as I make it out to be, I don't tune it to the point the lugs are all the way in, it is not tightened any harder than I can do it by hand. Although the rebound on it is crazy, I think I get more rebound from it than I do from my practice pad.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25018887]That's basically what a marching snare is, all you get is a sharp crack, which is what some people want in their snare. I believe marching snare drum heads are like 50 dollars because they don't use regular heads, they use Kevlar or something.
[URL]http://band-orchestra.musiciansfriend.com/product/Evans-Hybrid-Marching-Snare-Side-Head?sku=490558[/URL]
This is the resonant head used on the bottom of the marching snares at my school.
I believe this is the batter head, can't be sure though.
[URL]http://band-orchestra.musiciansfriend.com/product/Evans-Hybrid-Marching-Snare-Drum-Batter-Head?sku=490557[/URL]
My snare isn't actually as tight as I make it out to be, I don't tune it to the point the lugs are all the way in, it is not tightened any harder than I can do it by hand. Although the rebound on it is crazy, I think I get more rebound from it than I do from my practice pad.[/QUOTE]
i know marching snares are tight, but they are designed for extreme tension. a regular snare drum however isn't, you can bend a hoop pretty bad if you don't use a star pattern or tighten them unevenly, you can screw up the head by tighten it too fast and at the extreme strip some inserts or screws.
besides marching snares are made to cut, and cut a lot to be heard over a whole field, a snare drum isn't, at big venues it will be miced, i wouldn't spend a lot of money on a steambent 1 ply maple snare to just have a single tack, i want that true wood sound, and i assume most people who dig their wallets for a snare want as much tone and characteristics from it as possible.
[QUOTE=BassB;25019304]i know marching snares are tight, but they are designed for extreme tension. a regular snare drum however isn't, you can bend a hoop pretty bad if you don't use a star pattern or tighten them unevenly, you can screw up the head by tighten it too fast and at the extreme strip some inserts or screws.
besides marching snares are made to cut, and cut a lot to be heard over a whole field, a snare drum isn't, at big venues it will be miced, i wouldn't spend a lot of money on a steambent 1 ply maple snare to just have a single tack, i want that true wood sound, and i assume most people who dig their wallets for a snare want as much tone and characteristics from it as possible.[/QUOTE]
I tune my snare drum high enough to get the tack but I also keep it low enough that I get the tone from the drum.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25020650]I tune my snare drum high enough to get the tack but I also keep it low enough that I get the tone from the drum.[/QUOTE]
sounds perfect.
but tuning "as tight as you can" doesn't really sound like that :confused:
[QUOTE=BassB;25020961]sounds perfect.
but tuning "as tight as you can" doesn't really sound like that :confused:[/QUOTE]
With a drum key, I don't think you will ever get to the point where you completely kill the tones, I can barely hand tighten my lugs any more with my drum keys. Which is a normal little drum key from Pearl, not a high tension or anything.
Also, moved my set around a bit, everything is nearly as flat as possible, I need a higher snare stand though and a higher drum stool. I can play nearly as fast as normal even though I have to raise my hands to get up to the toms from my snare and! I have my toms closer together so between toms I can play faster, although if I could I would lower either my toms, or raise my snare and chair. Stupid bass drums get in the way of lowering my toms. Also, I play much louder on my toms, due to the fact instead of ending the arc of the stick halfway, I end it later, so the sticks have more time to speed up and piss the neighbors off even more.
How do I tune a bass drum?
What does a correctly tuned base drum sound like?
Trying to tune my toms for a more heavy metal sound, anyone got any advice?
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25024460]How do I tune a bass drum?
What does a correctly tuned base drum sound like?[/QUOTE]
bom.
If you are for an groove fat kind of sound then listen to my recording
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Now don't mind tuning it to an harmoning pitch or whatever! Loose the batter and the resonant head of the bass drum, put an sheet or something in it pressing a bit against the batter head but not against the resonant head, put the resonant head back on and tighten the lugs (or how they are called in english) easily till you feel that it won't turn without power. After that you use that famous X technique and just tighten it equally and play around! (try to tighten them a bit higher at first so you can get some punch out of it)
I suck at explaining in english (I am german)
Retuned my toms for a deeper sound. Holy crap, left the resonant heads as they are normally, batter heads I tuned to barely just above finger tightened. Sounds like really really ridiculously deep. Which I love, the snare is tuned high on my kit so when I'm going through a tom fill hitting the snare is like doing a awesome accent, or I can go for my smallest tom which I think I may tune back up high, kit sounds wonderful now though.
Thought my drums did't sound to bad then my parents draged me on some random trip to ee there friends or somthing and i meet a gut who had a Brady Drum kit. He let me play and it sounded so good now all i can think every time i play is just how bad my kit sounds
Anyone else wonder what a hickory drum set would sound like?
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25006422]Sadly left marching band today. I just couldn't deal with the complete bull. When you ask someone in your Percussion class to join Marching Band, that person is expecting that they'll be playing something involving a drum perhaps? Nope, I get put to a instrument I don't play, that I completely hate now, that I still can't play. They also expected me to learn the part in 8 hours. On a instrument I've never played before. Also our Section Leader is a jackass who is obsessed with HIS practice time, HIS battery. Sorry for spilling that out here, but had to let that go. Just annoys the hell out of me when people expect me to play something I don't play. Its like joining a band than having the guitarist say, HEY! WE NEED YOU TO PLAY BASS when you play drums...[/QUOTE]
Cry about it more. If you had dedication, you'd stick around until you'd get a better slot next year.
[QUOTE=stupid10er;25030121]Cry about it more. If you had dedication, you'd stick around until you'd get a better slot next year.[/QUOTE]
Haha, woah, sorry, had to laugh my ass off for a moment there. Considering I'm a senior in high school, better spot next year isn't really going to happen. And considering I get more practice time in per week than all the students in my solo ensemble class do get in a day, I would say I'm doing good at the dedication part. I spend nearly 2 hours on a school day practicing, today alone I spent nearly 4 hours. Stop trying to pick a fight.
I can dedicate myself to something I love such as my drum kit, but when they put me behind a xylophone its like, they tied my hands behind my back and expected me to learn my part AND learn to play a new instrument in 8 hours for a game, along with learning another part. Not going to happen. Maybe I'll join marching band in college if they have it.
You certainly don't look like a senior, and it looks like all the practice went to waste.
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