[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25913525]When you're marching tenors you have to use all 4 limbs to. You also have to keep track of where you are on the field.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I see. I heard you also get points? And if you play your doubles wrong, they get deducted?
[QUOTE=Thaard;25916505]Ah, I see. I heard you also get points? And if you play your doubles wrong, they get deducted?[/QUOTE]
For competitions you get points. And I don't believe you lose points for playing something wrong, but the quality of what you play.
[QUOTE=Thaard;25916505]Ah, I see. I heard you also get points? And if you play your doubles wrong, they get deducted?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's a highly competitive activity.
Here's a link to a judges tape: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiQQgvPHAkE[/media].
I think he calls out 2, MAYBE 3 ticks (mistakes) in this 12 minute show. And they got in percussion. The level of excellence required in marching percussion doesn't remotely compare to any other form of music.
Well, looks like I'm not doing indoor percussion this year. My asshole band teacher already picked people for it, before auditions for it even started. I'm still going to audition but if I don't make second snare I am not going back to pit.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25938665]Well, looks like I'm not doing indoor percussion this year. My asshole band teacher already picked people for it, before auditions for it even started. I'm still going to audition but if I don't make second snare I am not going back to pit.[/QUOTE]
Man what you gotta do is just chill out bro. Look at the good things man. If you get it, that's great. If you don't, you can still go home and bang on your kit.
[QUOTE=bltsponge;25938525]Yeah, it's a highly competitive activity.
Here's a link to a judges tape: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiQQgvPHAkE[/media].
I think he calls out 2, MAYBE 3 ticks (mistakes) in this 12 minute show. And they got in percussion. The level of excellence required in marching percussion doesn't remotely compare to any other form of music.[/QUOTE]
Glad I'm not playing in a corps. It would be nervewracking. I'll stick to playing in bands.
[QUOTE=Thaard;25940113]Glad I'm not playing in a corps. It would be nervewracking. I'll stick to playing in bands.[/QUOTE]
Haha, it's great actually. The feeling of playing perfectly in unison with 15+ other drummers doesn't compare to anything else.
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25939950]Man what you gotta do is just chill out bro. Look at the good things man. If you get it, that's great. If you don't, you can still go home and bang on your kit.[/QUOTE]
What good things? If I don't get it I'll have failed my goal for my senior year, I'll have never played Marching Snare for any marching band, and I'll have wasted two months of my life practicing for a part. Oh wait, that already did happen. And it was wasting two months of my life for a part that I never had a chance at getting.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25941329]What good things? If I don't get it I'll have failed my goal for my senior year, I'll have never played Marching Snare for any marching band, and I'll have wasted two months of my life practicing for a part. Oh wait, that already did happen. And it was wasting two months of my life for a part that I never had a chance at getting.[/QUOTE]
And? It's just one failure in a sea of possibilities.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25941329]What good things? If I don't get it I'll have failed my goal for my senior year, I'll have never played Marching Snare for any marching band, and I'll have wasted two months of my life practicing for a part. Oh wait, that already did happen. And it was wasting two months of my life for a part that I never had a chance at getting.[/QUOTE]
you seriously need to chillax, man. Two months is nothing. No point crying over spilt milk and all that. The thing about being a drummer is that there are a lot of opportunities out there. I mean, I want to be a writer, and I'm trying as hard as I can to get into journalism seriously, and I've been practising my writing and prose for about two years now, and it looks like I won't be able to attend university with rising tuition fees. You just gotsta roll with the punches, if not playing marching snare is the worst thing to happen to you in your life, you'll be lucky.
[editline]8th November 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=bltsponge;25941167]Haha, it's great actually. The feeling of playing perfectly in unison with 15+ other drummers doesn't compare to anything else.[/QUOTE]
what about the feeling of blood dripping down your knuckles and your brand new sticks splintering as you Fuck the shit out of a kit that you paid well over £2000 for, playing alongside a bassist and a guitarist? That's a pretty fantastic feeling right there. Obviously I've never done corps though, so I can't make a snap judgement.
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;25941492]you seriously need to chillax, man. Two months is nothing. No point crying over spilt milk and all that. The thing about being a drummer is that there are a lot of opportunities out there. I mean, I want to be a writer, and I'm trying as hard as I can to get into journalism seriously, and I've been practising my writing and prose for about two years now, and it looks like I won't be able to attend university with rising tuition fees. You just gotsta roll with the punches, if not playing marching snare is the worst thing to happen to you in your life, you'll be lucky.
[editline]8th November 2010[/editline]
what about the feeling of blood dripping down your knuckles and your brand new sticks splintering as you Fuck the shit out of a kit that you paid well over £2000 for, playing alongside a bassist and a guitarist? That's a pretty fantastic feeling right there. Obviously I've never done corps though, so I can't make a snap judgement.[/QUOTE]
Trying to get the entire percussion ensemble in perfect time with each other is horrible. Its funny how the beat keepers for a band tend to have a hard as hell time keeping beat with each other.
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;25941492]what about the feeling of blood dripping down your knuckles and your brand new sticks splintering as you Fuck the shit out of a kit that you paid well over £2000 for, playing alongside a bassist and a guitarist? That's a pretty fantastic feeling right there. Obviously I've never done corps though, so I can't make a snap judgement.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure that's something great and incomparable too. I'm not a drumset player, I've never played in a band or improved alongside anyone, so I can't pass judgment on that. I can imagine it's something pretty awesome to experience, though.
Dark, that's what it's like in a highschool environment. In a corps or independent ensemble where everybody is good and everyone wants to be there, it's a completely different experience.
[QUOTE=bltsponge;25942339]I'm sure that's something great and incomparable too. I'm not a drumset player, I've never played in a band or improved alongside anyone, so I can't pass judgment on that. I can imagine it's something pretty awesome to experience, though.
Dark, that's what it's like in a highschool environment. In a corps or independent ensemble where everybody is good and everyone wants to be there, it's a completely different experience.[/QUOTE]
Playing in a band is awesome when everyone knows more or less what they are doing, and if they have practiced. If not, then it's horrible. I had a cover-band where everyone except me didn't practice. Ended up with me yelling at the bassist for not playing the right tune and guitarist for playing all over the place. I left pretty quick. Had 2 concerts(which didn't end good).
Now I'm in a blues-band(with older seasoned musicians) and a jazz/funk-band with younger but eager players. It's just about finding a band that you can relate to and are willing to practice, so the crowd(and the other players) can enjoy the music.
As a drummer, you have the best seat in the house. Nothing is more enjoyable then laying down a fat groove with the bassist and let the soloists play some kick-ass solo's.
[QUOTE=bltsponge;25942339]I'm sure that's something great and incomparable too. I'm not a drumset player, I've never played in a band or improved alongside anyone, so I can't pass judgment on that. I can imagine it's something pretty awesome to experience, though.
[/QUOTE]
You can't imagine, first day I got this pair of Travis Barker sticks in black, that I had never seen before in my local soundattak, I take them to jam with my band, and already they are fucked, but I don't even care. I'm not wearing my shirt anymore, I don't know where that's got to. I've warped my friends weird shitty crash/ride/pieceoshit cymbal into a strange ~ shape, and I'm sweating like a motherfucker.
Can anyone suggest any exercises to help my increase speed + endurance for hitting the snare drum? I seem to be lacking 20% of the speed some songs seem to demand.
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25943102]Can anyone suggest any exercises to help my increase speed + endurance for hitting the snare drum? I seem to be lacking 20% of the speed some songs seem to demand.[/QUOTE]
That's easy, but you need to have patience. Set your metronome to 70 bpm and play singles with both arms for 10 bars, then switch between right and left only. Do this for about 20 minutes each day for a month, and you should get faster. Remember to increase bpm when you feel you can master the speed(play it 100% relaxed). Remember to breathe and relax whilst practicing.
[QUOTE=Thaard;25943336]That's easy, but you need to have patience. Set your metronome to 70 bpm and play singles with both arms for 10 bars, then switch between right and left only. Do this for about 20 minutes each day for a month, and you should get faster. Remember to increase bpm when you feel you can master the speed(play it 100% relaxed). Remember to breathe and relax whilst practicing.[/QUOTE]
I don't have a metronome, but I can get one. What are bars?
Isn't 70 a bit slow too?
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25943684]I don't have a metronome, but I can get one. What are bars?
Isn't 70 a bit slow too?[/QUOTE]
Learn to use your fingers. Practice specifically using your back fingers and just using them to pull the stick down onto the head. A big misconception about playing matched is the use of the wrist. You don't use your wrists except for traditional in any grip, you mostly use fingers. And even with traditional a good player uses his fingers. The way I get my speed up is start playing singles as fast as I can and just keep it up for as long as I can. Until I can't do it anymore. I focus on keeping it on beat however.
[editline]8th November 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25943684]I don't have a metronome, but I can get one. What are bars?
Isn't 70 a bit slow too?[/QUOTE]
Bars separate a measure on sheet music. So 10 measures.
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25943684]I don't have a metronome, but I can get one. What are bars?
Isn't 70 a bit slow too?[/QUOTE]
It's good to practice slow, since you have to build muscle-memory. Use both fingers and wrists. Wrists can be good for hard hits and getting around the kit. Fingers are for playing fast, since fingers are smaller muscles aka faster.
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25916270]I need some rock/ thrash metal songs/albums to play the drums to. Any suggestions? The hardest song I can play right now is disposable Heros by metallica. Well actually pretty much the whole master of puppets album except damage Inc.[/QUOTE]
Depends what kind of stuff you like, but at the heavier end I personally like playing to stuff like [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OipXkb6fOFc]Audioslave[/url], [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXBY_nOlpnY]Thornley[/url], [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxv910zvmc]Velvet Revolver[/url], and [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3moLkjvhEu0]Disturbed[/url].
Or if you want a real challenge you can try playing some [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd9p69_ah4s]Dream Theater[/URL]...
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25943102]Can anyone suggest any exercises to help my increase speed + endurance for hitting the snare drum? I seem to be lacking 20% of the speed some songs seem to demand.[/QUOTE]
There's one I was introduced to where you pick an exercise (double-stroke roll, paradiddle, or whatever you want to speed up) and choose a slow starting speed, say 80bpm (or less). Do 24 bars of semiquavers (or 100 measures of sixteenth notes for you yanks?) of the pattern, then move up a notch on the metronome - so, 80 > 84 for example (look at the speeds on an analogue metronome) and repeat, for 8 speeds. Only move up a speed if you're rock solid on the one you're doing. Once you've mastered the highest one, cross the slowest speed off the list and add one to the top, and start again. I gained about 30bpm in around a fortnight with that method.
Oh, and if you feel pain, don't keep going!
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25944050]. Practice specifically using your back fingers and just using them to pull the stick down onto the head..[/QUOTE]
I have absolutely no idea how to use my fingers to move the stick. I guess it's something to ask the instructor on thrusday.
[editline]9th November 2010[/editline]
Do you possibly know of a video tutorial on this technique?
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25957409]I have absolutely no idea how to use my fingers to move the stick. I guess it's something to ask the instructor on thrusday.
[editline]9th November 2010[/editline]
Do you possibly know of a video tutorial on this technique?[/QUOTE]
Definitely ask your teacher, but here's a video that shows the general idea
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql01dHAbjeQ[/url]
[QUOTE=Hysteria100;25957845]Definitely ask your teacher, but here's a video that shows the general idea
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql01dHAbjeQ[/url][/QUOTE]
Wow. I always though to play things like 1:27 to 1:30 in [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8l0pY_O7ww]Damge Inc.[/url] it was all with the wrist.
[editline]9th November 2010[/editline]
Is it the same technique using fingers on the high hat too at high speeds?
Does anyone have some notation for marching snare? Something that doesn't have one handed sixteenth notes on the left hand with traditional grip? Something that won't let me get bored but won't pushing my left hand's sanity.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25964606]Does anyone have some notation for marching snare? Something that doesn't have one handed sixteenth notes on the left hand with traditional grip? Something that won't let me get bored but won't pushing my left hand's sanity.[/QUOTE]
Haha, that was a bit unachievable. I wrote it in english class without any sort of pad/sticks around, so I didn't really get a sense of what I was actually writing.
[editline]10th November 2010[/editline]
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Cleaned it up, made it less dumb.
Ok, seems like today is the day I'm going to buy new double-pedals. It will either be Pearl PowerShifter Eliminator(since it's the closest to what I got now) or DW5000 or 9000. Also gonna buy me a china and a new mic for my snare.
How much you gonna spend on the pedal?
[QUOTE=gerbile5;25994254]How much you gonna spend on the pedal?[/QUOTE]
I spent 600 bucks on everything. Pedal, wuhan china and some sticks.
My uncle co-owns a large drum-store, so he gave me 30% off.
My Pearl FFX Competition marching snare got here. Loud as shit and it sounds wonderful.
What heads are you using?
Also, what size is the drum?
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